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Title: Bachmann, Palin should just admit gaffes, then move on
Source: Chicago Sun Times
URL Source: http://www.suntimes.com/news/roeper ... admit-gaffes-then-move-on.html
Published: Jun 30, 2011
Author: Richard Roeper
Post Date: 2011-06-30 11:37:30 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 28554
Comments: 65

It’s the scramble-back that makes you look insecure, stubborn and not all that bright.

Does it really matter that Michele Bachmann got her John Waynes mixed up and said she shared a hometown with John Wayne when in fact it was John Wayne Gacy?

“John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That’s the kind of spirit that I have, too.”

In fact, it was John Wayne Gacy who lived in Waterloo, whereas John Wayne, the actor, was born about 150 miles away, in the Iowa town of Winterset.

Not a sane person in the world jumped on the gaffe to say, “Oh my God, she’s trying to align herself with the Killer Clown!” But the mainstream-lamestream media pounced on the gaffe with unbridled glee, just as they did when Sarah Palin couldn’t name the periodicals she consumed.

The day after Bachmann’s verbal misstep, she appeared on CNN and said, “People can make mistakes and I wish I could be perfect every time I say something, but I can’t.”

Not a bad way to deflect the minor distraction. But Bachmann didn’t stop there. She opted for the scramble-back defense, in which the candidate and the candidate’s team scramble back, huddle up and scour the Internet for research that kinda-sorta backs up an erroneous claim.

“John Wayne’s parents’ first home was in Waterloo, Iowa, and he was from Iowa,” said Bachmann.

Um, OK.

This is the same sort of scramble-back tactic employed by Sarah Palin after Palin said Paul Revere “warned the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms by ringing those bells and making sure he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed.”

Of course, Palin meant Revere warned the American colonists, not the British — and the rest of those ad-libbed comments hardly consist of rock-solid history — but it’s not the blunder of all time. It’s not as if Palin had said Paul Revere “not only warned the British but was a member of the greatest rock and roll band of the Sixties, Paul Revere and the Raiders.”

But instead of correcting the record, Palin scrambled back and came out sounding as if she’d just emerged from an all-night study session with a high school history teacher.

“I didn’t mess up about Paul Revere,” she said. “Here’s what Paul Revere did. He warned the Americans that the British were coming. Part of his ride was to warn the British that were there that ‘hey, you’re not gonna succeed.’ ”

Countered James Cross Giblin, author of The Many Rides of Paul Revere, in an interview on ABC News: “She was basically wrong. . . . His mission certainly was not to warn the British. It was to get the message to the revolutionaries in Concord.”

Asked if Palin did not get the basic facts right, Giblin replied, “No she did not.”

Some Palin fans even tried to revise history on Wikipedia. Better to alter the facts than to admit our gal is wrong!

Now that’s a real scramble-back.

A founding youngster?

When ABC’s George Stephanopoulos challenged Michele Bachmann’s claim that the Founding Fathers “worked tirelessly to end slavery” and noted that “Jefferson and Washington were slaveholders and slavery didn’t end until the Civil War,” Bachmann countered that John Quincy Adams “tirelessly worked throughout his life to make sure we did in fact one day eradicate slavery.”

Not a good scramble-back, considering John Quincy Adams wasn’t one of the Founding Fathers and was all of 9 years old when the Revolutionary War began.

When Barack Obama made his infamous “57 states” gaffe in 2008, he owned up and made fun of himself later the very same day, noting, “I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, um . . . ”

It was better for Obama to just admit the mistake than to scramble back and say, “Look, there ARE 57 states. We have the 50 states, plus we’re in a state of confusion, a state of anguish, a state of concern, a state of uncertainty, a state of economic crisis — but also a state of hope and a state of change, and I state right now I’m gonna bring that hope and change to America!”

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#1. To: no gnu taxes, (#0)

When Barack Obama made his infamous “57 states” gaffe in 2008, he owned up and made fun of himself later the very same day, noting, “I understand I said there were 57 states today. It’s a sign that my numeracy is getting a little, um . . . ”

It was better for Obama to just admit the mistake than to scramble back and say, “Look, there ARE 57 states. We have the 50 states, plus we’re in a state of confusion, a state of anguish, a state of concern, a state of uncertainty, a state of economic crisis — but also a state of hope and a state of change, and I state right now I’m gonna bring that hope and change to America!”

That's how you handle it.

go65  posted on  2011-06-30   11:38:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#1)

So has the idiot apologized for all these dumbass moments, too?

“The Bomb” that fell on Pearl Harbor

“The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries.”

10,000 People (A Whole Town!) Died in Kansas ~ Oops, Overstated by 9,988

Admits His Plan would Necessarily Cause Energy Prices to Skyrocket

Air Raiding Villages a la Yankee Air Pirates: Destroys Whole Afghan Villages!

ATMs Cause Unemployment

Blames Hugo Chavez’s Election on (ta da) BUSH! Oops.

Blows off the Salute To Heroes (MOH) Inaugural Ball

Botched Toast ~ Babbles over “God Save The Queen”

Bowls like a Special Olympian

Bows to the Chicom President

Bows to the Emperor of Japan

Bows to the Saudi King

Burns up 9,000 gallons of Jet Fuel on Earth Day

Can’t Keep MOH Recipients Straight

Confuses “his” Christianity for “his Muslim faith”

Cops Acted Stupidly (@ 1:30)

Date Nights at a Quarter of a Million a Pop

Did He REALLY just call Palin a "Pig"??????

Disrespects the Flag and the National Anthem

Doesn't Know How Old His Daughter Is

Exaggerates about Military Small Unit Methods, Weapons, and Tactics in Afghanistan

Expects to be President for “Eight to Ten Years”

Faux White Sox Fan Can't Name Favorite Players, Loves "Cominskey" Park

Flippantly Answers the "When Does Life Begin" Question ~ Above His Pay Grade

Forgot to Duck ~ Too Busy Waving

Gins up the Reason for his Birth In Selma (Bonus…Jive Accent)

Gives the Queen an iPod

Gives Thoughtless Gifts to Brit PM Brown and his Children

Had an Imaginary Assignment to the Senate Banking Committee

Had an Uncle who Liberated Auschwitz

Has Visited 57 States

Harvard Degree ~ Mechanical Engineering? No, Definitely NOT!

Hates Old People

Identifies a Whole New State (Eau Claire)

If I Can't Dazzle Them With Brilliance, I'll Baffle 'em With BS

Inhaled Frequently. That was the Point.

Israel is a Strong Friend of Israel’s ~ Whilst being Perfectly Clear

Makes a Nasty Joke about Nancy Reagan and Seances

Medical Genius (Off Prompter)

Mistakes a Window for a Door

Mocks Joe the Plumber

Navy Corpse Man

Oaf of Office

Ogles La Derriere Like a Frenchman

Oh Wait…Robots Create Jobs with Unions (@ 1:35)

Pitches Like a Girl Whilst Wearing Mom Jeans....Wheeeee!!!!!

Refused to Visit the Troops Because No Media Was Allowed

Scares the Crap out of New Yorkers

Scares a Marine Guard by Shaking His Hand

Screw Our Allies ~ I'm going with Hugo and Ortega on This One

Seeks Greater Inefficiencies in the Health Care System via Obamacare

Sees Dead People

Signs the Wrong Year in Guest Book at Westminster Abbey

Snubs Brits by Returning the Bust of Winston Churchill

Someone Waging a KMA can’t Spell “Libya” (h/t our own Warner Todd Houston)

Staff Incompetence ~ Obama’s Limo Gets Stuck

Thinks “Victory” is a 4 Letter Word

Thinks Austrian is a Language

Throws Out the Honored Guest with the Trash

We are the Ones We've Been Waiting For

When in Ireland, Do as the Irish Do....NO WAIT....BYOB (non-alcoholic)

Will Halt The Rise of the Oceans

Wouldn't "Punish" His Daughters with a Baby AND Equates Pregnancy to an STD

You Might be a Filthy Rich Cretin If....Oh Never Mind, the Math Doesn't Really Work

And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. A partial list of The Stupidity That is Obama.

http://newsbusters.org/forum/topic-discussion/handy-reference-guide-obama039s-gaffes-and-goofs

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-30   11:50:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: no gnu taxes (#4)

I don't see any need for him to apologize for the spin of others, but when he does make an actual mistake, he is quick to admit it and apologize for it; unlike Palin & Bachmann.

go65  posted on  2011-06-30   12:06:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#5)

I don't see any need for him to apologize for the spin of others, but when he does make an actual mistake, he is quick to admit it and apologize for it; unlike Palin & Bachmann.

Carlin:

There's a Big Club and you're not in it.

BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

I KNEW Strauss Kahn wouldn't go to jail. Die maybe. Not Jail.

Cause the ELITE don't go to jail. The ELite Fail-WAY TO GO BROWNIE--and move up to their nect assignment.

IN WWI Imperial Russia made the serfs get off the train and march the Final 25 miles to the Front. To get them into shape.

9-11 and 7/7 were False Flags to make you serfs understand your place...

Now GET BACK TO WORK.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA 8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-01   8:08:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

I KNEW Strauss Kahn wouldn't go to jail. Cause the ELITE don't go to jail.

He DID go to jail. He spent a week at Rikers Island. I'm pretty sure they don't cater French rapists there either.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-01   9:57:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Thunderbird (#8)

He DID go to jail. He spent a week at Rikers Island. I'm pretty sure they don't cater French rapists there either.

A drunk tank sentence.

Isolated. What. For a week? I guess that's major for the Top 50 000.

Time served?

And what about DSK's sordid Room Service history. Sounds like the President of Israel antics.

But that's not admissible.

The Maid's life away from the hotel is?

Her account of how DSK's sperm got on her is the story.

There's a Big Club. And you and I aren't in it.

If this stands then future Hotel Maid Responses to rape should be:

1) Don't let the rapist get out of the room alive. 2) Maid's should be issued pepper spray. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-02   10:12:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mcgowanjm (#10)

Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-02   10:17:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Thunderbird (#11)

Considering that the "maid" is a part-time hooker and a pathological liar, a week in Rikers seems...excessive.

I would hope a manager of so much money would show a little more prudent behavior then just jumping in bed with whoever's convenient.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-02   13:05:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#18) (Edited)

I would hope a manager of so much money would show a little more prudent behavior then just jumping in bed with whoever's convenient.

I don't disagree, but it also seems likely that Strauss-Kahn paid for sex with the maid and perhaps got a little rough with her when she didn't perform to his expectation.

If this arrangment had been made known to the police beforehand, I doubt he would have been arrested, much less held for a week on Rikers Island without bail.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-02   16:10:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Thunderbird (#20)

I don't disagree, but it also seems likely that Strauss-Kahn paid for sex with the maid and perhaps got a little rough with her when she didn't perform to his expectation.

And THAT"S just mad eup on the fly Bull Shit.

The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered.

And what 'arrangement'?

That DSK promised not to come in her mouth?

How exactly are those arrangements carried out, TB.

How do you proposition the maid?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-03   10:00:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mcgowanjm (#22)

The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered.

False.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-03   11:35:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Thunderbird (#25)

The Maid's Story of the attack has never waivered.

True.

And where did that semen come from.

And how Does a multimillionaire approach a third world maid for consensual sex.

Is it the same way he rapes the maid's home country?

"http://www.cps-news.com/wp-content/misc_pdfs/Citigroup_Plutonomy_Part_1_Oct162005.pdf

http://www.cps-news.com/wp-content/misc_pdfs/Citigroup_Plutonomy_Part_2_Mar52006.pdf

The second one took a very long time to download, but it's there. Update on Monday, May 30, 2011 at 03:34PM by Registered CommenterSkeptic

Picking up on the advice in the plutonomy memos, advertisers are being urged to give up on the middle class and target the 1-2% with the highest incomes because the middle class can no longer afford much of what they are selling. Sam Pizzigoti discusses and links to the recent Ad Age story, with this lede:

The American middle class, concludes a new study from the ad industry’s top trade journal, has essentially become irrelevant. In a deeply unequal America, if you’re over 35 and your income hasn’t yet topped $200,000 a year, you don’t matter.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-04   8:17:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mcgowanjm (#28)

The maid LIED to the grand jury about details of the rape incident .

The maid LIED about being raped before.

The maid has been involved in scams since the day she was brought to the United States.

Game over.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-04   8:56:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Thunderbird (#29)

The maid LIED to the grand jury about details of the rape incident .

Got a transcript?

Cause her lawyer says she didn't.

But you believe the talking heads who breathlessly reported that.

And strausskahn lied about rape before...

So I guess we're just going to have a trial to find out who lied less, eh?

And again-Can a prostitute be raped in the US?

How did semen get all over the room and the maid?

How does the head of the raping/pillaging IMF propose to the maid?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   8:50:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mcgowanjm (#30) (Edited)

Got a transcript?

Cause her lawyer says she didn't.

Who cares what her lawyer says...the District Attorney produced the esculpatory evidence as required by law. Barring any new developments, the case against Strauss-Kahn will be dropped July 18th ...and if justice is served, the African hooker maid will be deported July 19th.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   9:20:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Thunderbird (#33)

Who cares what her lawyer says...

But stausskahn's lawyere is your only source.

So....you belive the MultiBillionarie's lawyer cause everyone knows these guys are saints.

But the minority maid who had strausskahn's semen all over her and the room...her lawyer...no.

Double standards. See, this is how revolutions start. the Aristocracy has no clue on the living conditions of the Bottom 90%...

See Kate&William Tour of their Empire for details...

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   9:26:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: mcgowanjm (#36)

But stausskahn's lawyere is your only source.

The NYC DISTRICT ATTORNEY produced the escuptatory evidence J.Edger... not DSK's lawyer.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   10:19:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Thunderbird (#44)

The NYC DISTRICT ATTORNEY produced the escuptatory evidence J.Edger... not DSK's lawyer.

So you are in the middle of this.

I'll need that transcript now.

'...and then the sperm flew everywhere'

LMFAO come on....;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   10:27:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mcgowanjm (#45)

I'll need that transcript now.

The only 'transcript' you need to read is the one where the African hooker-maid calls her illegal drug-dealer 'boyfriend' in prison and spills the beans in her native language.

That 'transcript' should be available in a couple of weeks...

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   10:36:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Thunderbird (#49)

That 'transcript' should be available in a couple of weeks...

And again...

Damage done now.

Two weeks from now is ancient news...

The lawywer's overwhelmed.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   10:43:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: mcgowanjm (#51)

Two weeks from now is ancient news...

Two weeks from now the case will be dismissed and the African BJ queen will be deported.

The only person who seems overwhelmed by this is...you.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   10:57:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Thunderbird (#53) (Edited)

Two weeks from now the case will be dismissed and the African BJ queen will be deported.

And again....Thank you.

OF course he'll skate. Who ever thought different. That or he'd be dead like Ken Lay. See the Rich don't go to jail. They know too much...

This is Planet Hell.

We are ruled by Psychopaths.

And the Gods aren't very nice.

LMFAO Yeah, that's the way the psycho's work.

"The only person who seems overwhelmed by this is...you."

Isolate. I'm in the minority. Resistance is Futile. 8D

Except it's not. For as long as just one person.

The Ultmiate Minority refuses to acquiesce with Evil. Evil can not stand.

LMFAO Side with the Top 50 000 mutherfucker.

Think they'll throw you some crumbs?

Reality is the Universe. The Universe is Altruistic.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   11:16:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: mcgowanjm (#54)

Kooky.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   12:06:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Thunderbird, All (#58)

And speaking of Kooky:

"It was only last week when rumors that Italy's Finance Minister Giulio Tremonti was about to step down due to irreconcilable difference with the man who puts DSK's (alleged) sexual exploits to shame, pushed down Italian bank stocks. Today, The Guardian picks up where last week left off, and brings us the following scene from a real life version of The Office, wherein we learn that Tremonti, who now is hated in Italy and will soon join the Greek Finance Minister in being the target of a massive scapegoating campaign that will likely end in his termination, has just threatened to quit if calls for his resignation don't subside. Yes, it didn't make much sense to us either but whatever."

All these Banksters are the same.

Hello there, fat ugly toad. I've got ten minutes for a break. Would you like for me to get on my knees so you can put your dick in my mouth and cum?

O, you're so sexy.

Now THAT's kooky. LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   12:44:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: mcgowanjm (#60)

Now THAT's kooky.

That you get into character like that and role play?

Yes it is.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-05   13:24:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Thunderbird (#63)

Now THAT's kooky.

That you get into character like that and role play?

Yes it is.

Like an Israeli:

Clever but stupid....;}

" Do you, too, sense the dread abiding in our annual celebration of national wonderfulness? Outside today's barbeque bubble the dark shapes of wild events loom, exciting primal fears of unresolved woe and travail. Yesterday, I saw a man on a back street of a small town with spider webs tattooed on his elbows and a screaming skull on the back of his neck.

America, meet your new normal: a citizenry of exterminating angels.

Our political exertions mean nothing to them. They think Ronald Reagan was the offspring of John Wayne and Minnie Mouse and the House of representatives is a reality TV show about home improvement. Once they are on the loose, even Rush Limbaugh and other like-minded jingo creeps of the airwaves will despair. "

kunstler

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-05   13:30:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: All (#64)

See, here's the deal.

the fat ugly toad signed his name in blood a looong time ago.

That a poor black maid could even put the toad in jail is already a victory.

The point man for rape of the planet:

" Ilargi: So when everybody sells everything, where do we draw the line between a sovereign nation and one that is "occupied"? It's hard to say, granted, but I would think that a people that wants to be in charge of its own destiny would want to always retain control of its transport and energy infrastructure: roads, waterways and ports, energy sources and supplies, etc. Control over health care services and schools seems obvious too, if you want to be and feel independent. And we haven't even mentioned land yet.

The prevailing ideology, however, has become the privatization of everything that's not bolted down (and even then...) The underlying notion, of course, is that private business is more efficient than government in running all sorts of services. Whether that's true or not is up for debate, but there's another factor at play as well: private businesses are run for profit, and profit implies growth."

-Ilargi

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