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Title: Bad News For The GOP: Manufacturing Report RISES Unexpectedly
Source: Bloomberg News
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com
Published: Jun 30, 2011
Author: Shobhana Chandra
Post Date: 2011-06-30 09:46:55 by war
Keywords: Fuck You, Boofer
Views: 68117
Comments: 92

June 30 (Bloomberg) -- The Institute for Supply Management- Chicago Inc. said today its business barometer unexpectedly rose to 61.1 in June from 56.6 a month earlier. Figures greater than 50 signal expansion.

Economists projected the gauge would drop to 54, according to the median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey.

Another report today showed the labor market is struggling to improve as more Americans than forecast filed first-time applications for unemployment benefits. Jobless claims dropped by 1,000 to 428,000 last week, the Labor Department said. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg projected 420,000 claims, according to the median estimate.

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#32. To: war (#31)

All that bullshit, and it wasn't worth my time to read. Thanks for the laughs, poly-sci dummy.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   19:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#9)

...You "say" the most iodtic things...

LMAO.

That's my new quote...

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   19:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Capitalist Eric (#33)

Put it right there with your claim that you had "Alegebra" in HS...

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--GW Bush

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--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

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war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#33)

Heh.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:
"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   19:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#32)

All that bullshit, and it wasn't worth my time to read. Thanks for the laughs, poly-sci dummy.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it - especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:12:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Capitalist Eric (#35)

The irony is that no one "sees" taglines any more thanks to the fact that yours are stupid.

Check your setup function, doof. You can control seeing taglines.

ROFLMAO....

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#36)

Hey, dummy, as I've already told you... your tactics don't work, because it's not me that's pushing DISINFORMATION.

I'll leave the lies to you and your... 'savior,' DICK ob@m@.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   19:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Capitalist Eric (#38)

Hey, dummy, as I've already told you... your tactics don't work, because it's not me that's pushing DISINFORMATION.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.

I'll leave the lies to you and your... 'savior,' DICK ob@m@.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Capitalist Eric (#30)

Wanna' try making a comment that makes sense?

What do economics and political science have in common - think about it.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-30   19:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom (#40)

They are TIED at the hip. And when you delve further that more than one of my profs - including my advisor - were actually political economists, it get incestuous.

But watching Erica pretend there is a world of difference between the two is hilarious. Whether you are studying a political system or an economic system at several points there are going to be policy influences and overlap.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#35)

Dickie is finding his way onto a lot of tag lines. Whenever he pops off, I always hear President Reagan say 'There you go again'.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   19:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#41)

But watching Erica pretend there is a world of difference between the two is hilarious.

He can't help it, he's an engineer.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-30   22:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#43)

My ass he's an engineer.

His mind is too cluttered. Every engineer whom I know is a meticulous thinker and can present a cogent argument. It's all about angles to them...not spheres...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-01   10:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Thunderbird (#3)

(laughing)

Truth hurts. And I'll note the dwarf's repressed sexual appetites come out at the oddest times....

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   10:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lucysmom (#6)

Somebody do an accuracy check, please.

What's stopping YOU?

I'm biased, goofy. Duh.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   10:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mininggold (#11)

Always nice to hear from the resident bigot. How's the Hitler Youth league membership driving going, ming?

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   10:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Badeye (#47)

Always nice to hear from the resident bigot. How's the Hitler Youth league membership driving going, ming?

That false but distractive assertion is evidence you have dead babies under your floorboards.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-01   10:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mininggold (#48)

Always nice to hear from the resident bigot. How's the Hitler Youth league membership driving going, ming?

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   10:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war (#44)

His mind is too cluttered. Every engineer whom I know is a meticulous thinker and can present a cogent argument.

It's a lack of social skills, something engineers are known for. (Actually, he reminds me of an engineer I once taught to drive - the car had a stick shift, he always insisted he was right even when the car went through a series of jerks and died.)

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   10:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: lucysmom (#43)

He can't help it, he's an engineer.

He's some mail clerk or similiar that "engineers and so called 'professionals'" have tried talking some sense into, but have obviously failed bigtime.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-01   10:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Badeye (#49)

That false but distractive assertion is evidence you have dead babies under your floorboards.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-01   10:34:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Rudgear (#42)

Dickie is finding his way onto a lot of tag lines. Whenever he pops off, I always hear President Reagan say 'There you go again'.

LOL.

Nice.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-01   13:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom (#40)

What do economics and political science have in common - think about it.

Economics is essentially the mathematical modeling of consumer behavior in a market, as well as production and distribution of goods.

Interesting variables come into play in the field of economics, depending on what you believe. For example, free-market capitalism theory is consumer behavior without government interference or regulation, and the freedom to choose any good you wish, depending on your preferences. OTOH, the Keynesian hypothesis of economics depends on government interference and regulation in economic models, to supposedly achieve greater efficiency and social "justice" (i.e., monetary redistribution via the business-end of a gun). It should be noted that free-market capitalism is easily the most efficient of all systems, and the longest lasting. Keynesian and socialist or communist models always collapse, because the inherent inefficiencies are capitalized on by beggars and corrupt bureaucrats, ultimately bankrupting those systems. This is historically and mathematically demonstrable- the USSR being the most recent example of a failed socialist model.

China will be the next communist model to fail, and when the economic collapse occurs in the Western world fails (over the next few months to years), it will be the latest example of corporatist-fascism to fail.

A point you keep bringing up, due your lack of understanding, is that the USA is NOT a free-market economy; it's not even close. If you believe it is, then show me a single market (or even a single commodity) that you can buy, where the government hasn't interfered/taxed/regulated. The only example I can currently come up with, is Craigslist- the last bastion of true free-market economics. Indeed, I'm building my car using damn-near everything purchased through that website.

Poli-sci studies political events and their relationships. It's a foo-foo area, with no real value to anyone except beggars and corrupt bureaucrats. It offers NOTHING of value to the real world, beyond a bunch of putzes sitting around, pontificating on different ways to fleece their fellow men...

As far as I'm concerned, they have nothing in common, from a practical perspective.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-01   13:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Capitalist Eric (#54) (Edited)

Economics is essentially the mathematical modeling of consumer behavior in a market, as well as production and distribution of goods.

Bullshit.

"Economics" is first and foremost the study of production and distribution, wealth transfer and consumption.

From those studies some amount of modeling may be done but there has yet to be a mathamatical model that has done anything more than DESCRIBE events rather than predict them. Mathamatical modeling can only occur with some amount of "givens". Since economic "givens" are so broad in nature and the "X" variable omnipresent, no such modeling has ever withgstood the test of time.

Poli-sci studies political events and their relationships.

Bullshit.

Poli-Sci is first and foremost the study of governance and the "political" systems by and from which governance occurs.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-01   13:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: war (#55)

Capitalist Eric: Economics is essentially the mathematical modeling of consumer behavior in a market, as well as production and distribution of goods.

dummy: Bullshit.

Since you never had any classes that would generally be referred to as "math," I can certainly understand how you would be left behind in the very first sentence.

Unfortunately for you, you're so far behind the curve that you actually think you're in the lead.

No need to read further on your reply. You're too stupid to hold up your end of the conversation.

Oh, and thanks for playing, dummy.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-07-01   14:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#34)

Put it right there with your claim that you had "Alegebra" in HS...

What's so unusual about that?

I had two years of algebra, geometry, and trigonometry in high school. I know people who have had calculus in high school.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-07-01   14:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Capitalist Eric (#56) (Edited)

Since you never had any classes that would generally be referred to as "math," I can certainly understand how you would be left behind in the very first sentence.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.

The "math" of economics does not require anything more than a knowledge of the General Algebraic Modeling System aka GAMS. Had you studied ALGEBRA instead of the ALEGEBERA that you claim to have studied then you'd know this. If you had any real knowledge of Econ then you’d know that Mathematical Economics is a sub- branch of Economics. And I note with irony that the most famous of this branch of economics and who won a Nobel, is ALSO a believer in climate change and social equality…Kenneth John Arrow…

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-01   14:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: no gnu taxes (#57) (Edited)

You had ALGEBRA...he had ALEGEBRA which, from the "sound" of it, requires drinking before dividing.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-01   14:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Badeye (#45)

Truth hurts.

Especially when it whacks you in the forehead like that manufacturing data did today, huh?

Feel better dummy.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-01   16:18:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Thunderbird (#60)

Especially when it whacks you in the forehead like that manufacturing data did today, huh?

You want to pretend that won't be 'revised' in a couple of weeks, knock yourself out, pussy.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   17:08:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Badeye (#61) (Edited)

You want to pretend that won't be 'revised' in a couple of weeks, knock yourself out, pussy.

ISM numbers are rarely, if ever, revised. It's a private group that surveys the Supply Chain Managers of its corporate members. It's about a 25 point questionnaire that covers: production, hiring, new orders, order backlog, prices paid and received, availability of materials, deliveries...you know...all the thing that if you were in a REAL business that you'd know about...rather then the one that requires a fax and a phone call and affords you all sorts of "happy time on the internet" that you're in.

That sound was that truth thing whacking you in the forehead again...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-01   17:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Badeye (#61) (Edited)

pussy

Using this vulger word falsely implies that anyone here is afraid of you.

Au contraire la beouf mulet..

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-07-01   17:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Thunderbird (#63)

There's that sound again...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-01   17:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Thunderbird, Badeye (#63)

pussy

Using this vulger word falsely implies that anyone here is afraid of you.

Au contraire la beouf mulet..

Using a vulger word now and then just shows that he's more honest and upfront than some slick talkin, dog shit eatin hypocrate such as yourself, who the hell are you out to impress pussikins? I'd trust a person who cusses now and again before I would some shifty, deceitful, two faced POS trying to be something they are not.

Laissez les bon temps roulez, PUTZ!

Murron  posted on  2011-07-01   17:42:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Capitalist Eric (#54)

Keynesian and socialist or communist models always collapse, because the inherent inefficiencies are capitalized on by beggars and corrupt bureaucrats, ultimately bankrupting those systems.

snip

A point you keep bringing up, due your lack of understanding, is that the USA is NOT a free-market economy; it's not even close.

The USSR failed for the same reason a truly free market can not exist on a significant scale for more than a minute.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   18:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Capitalist Eric (#54)

China will be the next communist model to fail...

Chinese communism does not exist anymore.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   18:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war, Capitalist Eric (#55)

Mathamatical modeling can only occur with some amount of "givens". Since economic "givens" are so broad in nature and the "X" variable omnipresent, no such modeling has ever withgstood the test of time.

Or as my economist stepson said, anyone who tells you he knows all about economics is lying.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   18:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: lucysmom (#68)

Put two economists in a room and you'll get 6 opinions...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-02   7:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Murron (#65)

Would that include someone who claimed that her life was in danger because of the dossier she was accumulating from web documents was making some people "nervous".

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-02   8:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Thunderbird (#63)

Wrong again, pussy.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-02   9:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Murron (#65)

(chuckle)

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-02   9:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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