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Title: Bad News For The GOP: Manufacturing Report RISES Unexpectedly
Source: Bloomberg News
URL Source: http://www.bloomberg.com
Published: Jun 30, 2011
Author: Shobhana Chandra
Post Date: 2011-06-30 09:46:55 by war
Keywords: Fuck You, Boofer
Views: 67520
Comments: 92

June 30 (Bloomberg) -- The Institute for Supply Management- Chicago Inc. said today its business barometer unexpectedly rose to 61.1 in June from 56.6 a month earlier. Figures greater than 50 signal expansion.

Economists projected the gauge would drop to 54, according to the median estimate in a Bloomberg News survey.

Another report today showed the labor market is struggling to improve as more Americans than forecast filed first-time applications for unemployment benefits. Jobless claims dropped by 1,000 to 428,000 last week, the Labor Department said. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg projected 420,000 claims, according to the median estimate.

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#11. To: lucysmom, badeye (#6)

What's stopping YOU?

He dreams of owning a large plantation with most of the posters here being his slaves or 'bitches' (since he's now using the vernacular of urban ghetto blacks).

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-30   12:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Capitalist Eric (#10)

I get engineers and so-called "professionals" telling me stuff like this, ALL the time... they try to whizz...zzz...zzzz

zzzz....zzzzz...

zzzz....

SCHNERK...Huh?

Oh...erica...

zzzz....

zzz....

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   12:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#9)

ISM is a private group, moron.

And that means precisely DICK.

But please, carry on with your Rules of Disinformation:

#8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough “jargon” and “minutiae” to illustrate you are “one who knows”, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

#17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

#18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

And now your favorite:

#20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

Thanks for playing, dummy... it was fun.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   12:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Capitalist Eric (#13)

And that means precisely DICK.

Boofer has nothing to do with this.

Do you have any information that would obviate any of the information in this release, Erica?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   12:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#11)

He dreams of owning a large plantation with most of the posters here being his slaves

He'll probably get them to the plantation with promises of freedom, no taxes, no socialist health care, and a chance to build a dream (his, of course).

Self identified "real" conservatives will fall for anything.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-30   12:32:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#14)

He's following rule #18.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-30   12:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: lucysmom (#16)

It's his ATF...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   12:34:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#15)

Gee, it's like you and mininggold are the same person!

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-06-30   12:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Wood_Chopper (#18)

Gee, it's like you and mininggold are the same person!

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   12:48:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#17)

It's his ATF...

Artificial transcription factor?

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-30   12:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rudgear (#19)

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

LMAO! Start here:

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=21416&Disp=62#C62

to see where mininggold claims lucysmom's post as hers.

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-06-30   12:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Wood_Chopper (#21)

to see where mininggold claims lucysmom's post as hers.

She was hacked. My goodness, can nobody stop this evil hacker from destroying the reputations of multi-tabbed browser users? This looks like a job for Moderator X to investigate and report, as Dickie would say.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   13:04:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war, capitalist eric (#14)

Do you have any information that would obviate any of the information in this release, Erica?

For starters, the article that you posted in NOT at the link.

Secondly, the MSM pushes the propaganda that DICK ob@m@ pushes, even as everyone in real life is laughing at it...

Given your confessed lack of knowledge on economics (after all, how much useful information can you get with a poli-sci degree, that you took EIGHT YEARS to get), you're not exactly someone who can argue economic points.

So I'll say flat-out... the economy is still slowly spriraling down the toilet, regardless of the bullshit propaganda you post.

I'm sure I'll be telling you "toldja' so" again... and again... and again.

Wait and see, dummy.

Bookmarked for future laughing at the dummy.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   13:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rudgear (#22)

She was hacked.

It's the only possible explanation!

This looks like a job for Moderator X to investigate and report

Only TSA could do it better! I feel so safe here now.

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-06-30   13:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Wood_Chopper (#21)

Start here: to see where mininggold claims lucysmom's post as hers.

Actually, your link shows nothing of the sort.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-06-30   13:27:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Capitalist Eric (#23) (Edited)

For starters, the article that you posted in NOT at the link.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

In fact, that article is at that link.*

*[see two points down]

Secondly, the MSM pushes the propaganda that DICK ob@m@ pushes, even as everyone in real life is laughing at it...

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

~and~

#17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

Given your confessed lack of knowledge on economics

That's an outright lie. Had I added a Stats course insteead of taking Algebra and Trig, I could have had a degree in Econ.

*So there must be "26" Rules of Disinformation for Morons.

(after all, how much useful information can you get with a poli-sci degree, that you took EIGHT YEARS to get), you're not exactly someone who can argue economic points.

It took me eight years, doofuse, because I worked, usually two jobs so that I could PAY for school, and went part time for 5 of them. And I went to grad school for a FULL year, i.e. 2 Summer terms and a Winter and a Spring term, afterward, where I studied geo-politics and had I bothered to write a thesis, I'd have the degree.

So I'll say flat-out... the economy is still slowly spriraling down the toilet, regardless of the bullshit propaganda you post.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   13:29:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom (#20)

Artificial transcription factor?

HA...

All time favorite...

But I like your thinking...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   14:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#26)

In fact, that article is at that link.*

Liar.

Had I added a Stats course insteead of taking Algebra and Trig, I could have had a degree in Econ.

Uh-huh. I had 2 years of Alegebra and Trig, plus another year of geometry... in high school.

My econ degree required two years of portfolio/risk management, 2.5 years of Stats, and a year of Engineering Calculus. What, you get your "degree" online, or from a diploma- mill??? LOL. Again, you get caught in a lie.

studied geo-politics...

"Underwater basket-weaving." Thanks for the laugh.

As a final note, doing the copy-and-paste of the Rules of Disinformation, but improperly applying them due to your apparent inability to understand, makes you look like an even BIGGER ass-hat than you usually do (which is hard to even imagine). A little *hint* for you, dummy... your constant FAILURE to apply those rules to me, is because I'm putting out REAL information, not the DISINFORMATION that YOU post.

Bottom line: You're using bravado, propaganda and pure bullshit, to push an agenda whose real agenda is beyond your comprehension. You don't understand economics... Frankly, you don't know how much you don't know... which makes you both stupid and dangerous.

Oh, BTW, when DICK ob@m@ shits on your face, are you gonna' say it's a shit sandwich?

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   16:45:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Capitalist Eric (#28)

studied geo-politics...

"Underwater basket-weaving." Thanks for the laugh.

Probably more relevant to economics than engineering.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-30   17:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: lucysmom (#29)

Wanna' try making a comment that makes sense?

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   18:16:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Capitalist Eric (#28)

Uh-huh. I had 2 years of Alegebra [sic]

Never heard of that.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

"Underwater basket-weaving." Thanks for the laugh.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

As a final note, doing the copy-and-paste of the Rules of Disinformation, but improperly applying them due to your apparent inability to understand, makes you look like an even BIGGER ass-hat than you usually do (which is hard to even imagine). A little *hint* for you, dummy... your constant FAILURE to apply those rules to me, is because I'm putting out REAL information, not the DISINFORMATION that YOU post.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

Bottom line: You're using bravado, propaganda and pure bullshit, to push an agenda whose real agenda is beyond your comprehension. You don't understand economics... Frankly, you don't know how much you don't know...

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the “play dumb” rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

which makes you both stupid and dangerous.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   18:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: war (#31)

All that bullshit, and it wasn't worth my time to read. Thanks for the laughs, poly-sci dummy.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   19:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#9)

...You "say" the most iodtic things...

LMAO.

That's my new quote...

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   19:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Capitalist Eric (#33)

Put it right there with your claim that you had "Alegebra" in HS...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:12:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#33)

Heh.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:
"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   19:12:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Capitalist Eric (#32)

All that bullshit, and it wasn't worth my time to read. Thanks for the laughs, poly-sci dummy.

1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it - especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:12:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Capitalist Eric (#35)

The irony is that no one "sees" taglines any more thanks to the fact that yours are stupid.

Check your setup function, doof. You can control seeing taglines.

ROFLMAO....

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:14:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#36)

Hey, dummy, as I've already told you... your tactics don't work, because it's not me that's pushing DISINFORMATION.

I'll leave the lies to you and your... 'savior,' DICK ob@m@.

Socialists & Democrats want you to do one thing:

"You "say" the most iodtic things..." --our local dummy DwarF

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-30   19:14:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Capitalist Eric (#38)

Hey, dummy, as I've already told you... your tactics don't work, because it's not me that's pushing DISINFORMATION.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.

I'll leave the lies to you and your... 'savior,' DICK ob@m@.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Capitalist Eric (#30)

Wanna' try making a comment that makes sense?

What do economics and political science have in common - think about it.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-30   19:17:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: lucysmom (#40)

They are TIED at the hip. And when you delve further that more than one of my profs - including my advisor - were actually political economists, it get incestuous.

But watching Erica pretend there is a world of difference between the two is hilarious. Whether you are studying a political system or an economic system at several points there are going to be policy influences and overlap.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-30   19:21:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#35)

Dickie is finding his way onto a lot of tag lines. Whenever he pops off, I always hear President Reagan say 'There you go again'.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-30   19:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: war (#41)

But watching Erica pretend there is a world of difference between the two is hilarious.

He can't help it, he's an engineer.

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-30   22:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#43)

My ass he's an engineer.

His mind is too cluttered. Every engineer whom I know is a meticulous thinker and can present a cogent argument. It's all about angles to them...not spheres...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-07-01   10:08:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Thunderbird (#3)

(laughing)

Truth hurts. And I'll note the dwarf's repressed sexual appetites come out at the oddest times....

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   10:13:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: lucysmom (#6)

Somebody do an accuracy check, please.

What's stopping YOU?

I'm biased, goofy. Duh.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   10:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mininggold (#11)

Always nice to hear from the resident bigot. How's the Hitler Youth league membership driving going, ming?

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   10:15:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Badeye (#47)

Always nice to hear from the resident bigot. How's the Hitler Youth league membership driving going, ming?

That false but distractive assertion is evidence you have dead babies under your floorboards.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-01   10:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: mininggold (#48)

Always nice to hear from the resident bigot. How's the Hitler Youth league membership driving going, ming?

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-07-01   10:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war (#44)

His mind is too cluttered. Every engineer whom I know is a meticulous thinker and can present a cogent argument.

It's a lack of social skills, something engineers are known for. (Actually, he reminds me of an engineer I once taught to drive - the car had a stick shift, he always insisted he was right even when the car went through a series of jerks and died.)

Von Mises associates any Government involvement in markets as "Socialism" , to mislead people into thinking Government is the enemy , when infact empire is the enemy and empire is Privatized.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-07-01   10:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: lucysmom (#43)

He can't help it, he's an engineer.

He's some mail clerk or similiar that "engineers and so called 'professionals'" have tried talking some sense into, but have obviously failed bigtime.

mininggold  posted on  2011-07-01   10:29:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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