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Title: Bachmann Stands By Claims That ‘Founding Fathers’ Ended Slavery
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2 ... ounding-fathers-ended-slavery/
Published: Jun 28, 2011
Author: Kase Wickman
Post Date: 2011-06-28 11:29:07 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 63042
Comments: 108

Rep. Michele Bachmann, who officially announced yesterday in Iowa that she is running for president, appeared on “Good Morning America” Monday, where George Stephanopoulos attempted to clarify some of her previous statements.

Among them: Bachmann’s claim that “the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence worked tirelessly to end slavery.”

“Now with respect, Congresswoman, that’s just not true,” Stephanopoulos said. “Many of them including Jefferson and Washington were actually slave holders and slavery didn’t end until the Civil War.”

Bachmann dodged the question, answering, “Well, you know what’s marvelous is that in this country and under our Constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that something is wrong to change it. And that’s what we did in our country. We changed it. We no longer have slavery. That’s a good thing. And what our Constitution has done for our nation, is to give us the basis of freedom unparalleled in the rest of the world.”

She goes on to claim that John Quincy Adams, who was a small boy during the Revolutionary War and did indeed eventually work to abolish slavery, should be counted as a “Founding Father.”

Watch the visibly distraught Stephanopoulos’ interview with the tea party candidate, in which she discusses the minimum wage, Sarah Palin and her foster children.

Originally aired June 28, 2011. Embedded courtesy ABC.

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#4. To: Brian S (#0)

Among them: Bachmann’s claim that “the Founding Fathers who wrote the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence worked tirelessly to end slavery.”

Actually, most of them did just this. Read the Federalist papers.

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-28   11:58:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#4)

Actually, most of them did just this. Read the Federalist papers.

Wha...chuckle...huh?

A) The Federalist was written by three people...John Jay, Alexander Hamilton and James Madison and expresses only the personal opinions of each as an individual.

B) There is no first person opposition to the institution of slavery expressed in any of The Federalist. The only alusion to this is stated in general terms regarding the 3/5's compromise...Hamilton #54: "Might not some surprise also be expressed that those who reproach the Southern States with the barbarous policy of considering as property a part of their human brethren should themselves contend that the government to which all the States are to be parties ought to consider this unfortunate race more completely in the unnatural light of property than the very laws of which they complain?" #38 mentions the slave trade but makes no moral judgement as to the institution whatsoever.

war  posted on  2011-06-28   12:23:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#11)

Wha...chuckle...huh?

A) The Federalist was written by three people...John Jay, Alexander Hamilton and James Madison and expresses only the personal opinions of each as an individual.

B) There is no first person opposition to the institution of slavery expressed in any of The Federalist. The only alusion to this is stated in general terms regarding the 3/5's compromise...Hamilton #54: "Might not some surprise also be expressed that those who reproach the Southern States with the barbarous policy of considering as property a part of their human brethren should themselves contend that the government to which all the States are to be parties ought to consider this unfortunate race more completely in the unnatural light of property than the very laws of which they complain?" #38 mentions the slave trade but makes no moral judgement as to the institution whatsoever.

Good post...

Part of the reason the boofer keeps you on 'filter' is so he can claim he doesn't see (and therefore doesn't have to respond to) intelligent rebuttals of his bullshit.

Thunderbird  posted on  2011-06-28   12:40:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Thunderbird (#19)

abu dabu doo!

Wrong again, cupcake, but it is amusing to see you flounder again.

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-28   13:20:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Badeye (#25)

abu dabu doo!

Wrong again, cupcake, but it is amusing to see you flounder again.

Why in the world would you call another poster.... cupcake?

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-28   13:22:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#28)

He's drunk again. His inhibitions are relaxed.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-28   13:23:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Fred Mertz (#30)

I'm not the one with weird insatiable habits, like you ethel.

Do you use a stool, or do you just find one of those midget pony's?

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-28   13:27:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Badeye (#35)

You're a dickweed. If I was childish like you, I'd accuse you of screwing your rescue dogs, but I won't because I actually respect you for doing what you do in that regard.

I love horses and dogs and birds but not in the way that you childishly imply. Grow up dickwad.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-28   13:36:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Fred Mertz (#39)

I love horses

...uh huh...long time....lmao

You can dish it out, ethel, but you sure can't take it. Note who began this series of exchanges. After that, you can either 'grow up' or fuck off, freddie. Whichever is easier for you.

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-28   14:24:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Badeye (#43)

Once you sober up, I'm sure you'll see your evil ways...(chuckle)

I must have hit a nerve there.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-28   14:27:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Fred Mertz (#47)

Once you sober up, I'm sure you'll see your evil ways...(chuckle)

I must have hit a nerve there.

The true personality is usually revealed when drunk.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-28   14:29:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mininggold (#49) (Edited)

Funny, I don't think anyone's ever suggested your stupidity is related to drinking, ming.

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-28   14:30:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Badeye (#51)

Funny, I don't think anyone's ever suggested your stupidity is related to drinking, ming.

No one has ever suggested it with you either, Boof.

It does give your stupidity a distinctive edge tho. A little less coherent...a helluva lot more funny.

war  posted on  2011-06-28   14:36:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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