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Title: Concept of property rights may come naturally to preschoolers (socialism unnatural)
Source: Science News
URL Source: http://www.sciencenews.org/view/gen ... title/Kids_own_up_to_ownership
Published: Jun 26, 2011
Author: Bruce Bower
Post Date: 2011-06-26 01:06:12 by Hondo68
Keywords: value ownership rights, way we naturally think, concept of property rights
Views: 13743
Comments: 29

Kids own up to ownership

WASHINGTON — Young children are possessed by possessions. Preschoolers argue about what belongs to whom with annoying regularity, a habit that might suggest limited appreciation of what it means to own something.

But it’s actually just the opposite, psychologist Ori Friedman of the University of Waterloo in Canada reported on May 28 at the Association for Psychological Science annual meeting. At ages 4 and 5, youngsters value a person’s ownership rights — say, to a crayon — far more strongly than adults do, Friedman and psychology graduate student Karen Neary found.

Rather than being learned from parents, a concept of property rights may automatically grow out of 2- to 3-year-olds’ ideas about bodily rights, such as assuming that another person can’t touch or control one’s body for no reason, Friedman proposed.

“Parents and adults may teach kids when it’s appropriate to disregard personal ownership,” he said. One such instance would involve a mother’s advice on when to lend a toy to another child who wants to borrow that item.

Friedman’s team presented a simple quandary to 40 preschoolers, ages 4 and 5, and to 44 adults. Participants saw an image of a cartoon boy holding a crayon who appeared above the word “user” and a cartoon girl who appeared above the word “owner.” After hearing from an experimenter that the girl wanted her crayon back, volunteers were asked to rule on which cartoon child should get the prized object.

About 75 percent of 4- and 5-year-olds decided in favor of the owner, versus about 20 percent of adults.

A second experiment consisted of more than 100 kids, ages 3 to 7, and 30 adults. In this case, participants saw the same cartoon boy and girl but were told that the crayon belonged to the school that the two imaginary children attended.

Nearly everyone, regardless of age, said that the user should keep the crayon for as long as needed in this situation. In other words, kids distinguished between people using an owned or a nonowned object.

In a final experiment that presented two cartoon adults, one using a cell phone that the other owned, most 4-year-olds but only a minority of adults declared that the device should be returned to its owner even before the borrower had a chance to use it. Children showed some flexibility in allowing borrowers to keep the phone — say, if it was needed for an emergency — but adults adjusted their opinions more readily to such circumstances.

It’s hard to know how children reasoned about experimental ownership scenarios, remarked psychologist Dan Ariely of Duke University. Perhaps preschoolers thought that, relative to the boy using a crayon, the girl who owned that crayon liked it more or got more pleasure from using it, Ariely suggested.

That possibility hasn’t been studied. What’s clear is that learning apparently plays little role in early thinking about possessions, Friedman asserted.

“A concept of ownership rights may be a product of the way we naturally think early in life,” he said.


Poster Comment:

It takes 12 years of communist indoctrination at school, to turn about a third of the kids into socialists.

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

“A concept of ownership rights may be a product of the way we naturally think early in life,” he said.

As far away from Reality as you can possibly get.

"Only when the last tree has been cut down; Only when the last river has been poisoned; Only when the last fish has been caught; Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten."

Almost there. ;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-06-26   8:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

When the last bridge crossing the MO River at Omaha is cut,

Warren Buffett will be the new Swedish Match King...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-06-26   8:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mcgowanjm (#1)

money cannot be eaten."

Then why are socialists so obsessed with stealing it, and redistributing it?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-26   10:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0)

“A concept of ownership rights may be a product of the way we naturally think early in life,” he said.

A toddler's sense of ownership is expressed by grabbing toys away from other children while proclaiming "mine" regardless of actual ownership.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   10:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#3)

Then why are socialists so obsessed with stealing it, and redistributing it?

BWAHAHAHAHA

In what state?

Please. Lockheed manages Food Stamps. WTF

A supportive domestic population is absolutely necessary if imperial ambitions are to be achieved, for without our support, or at the very least our acquiescence, conducting colonial/imperial wars simply would not be possible.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-06-26   11:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lucysmom (#4)

A toddler's sense of ownership is expressed by grabbing toys away from other children while proclaiming "mine" regardless of actual ownership.

Only because that 2 year old saw and copied an adult...

The foundations for Lying are being laid down at 2 as well...

Like a sponge...;}

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-06-26   11:04:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mcgowanjm (#6)

Only because that 2 year old saw and copied an adult...

They come by it naturally as part of the process of separation and individuation.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   11:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lucysmom (#7)

Only because that 2 year old saw and copied an adult...

They come by it naturally as part of the process of separation and individuation.

They do not.

Language yes.

Lying, Thieving, pschopathy (well, 6% of humans have zero empathy. That's evolution;}).

The rest. They Do not. It takes training. Like Hate...

“Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” - John Maynard Keynes

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-06-26   11:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: lucysmom (#7) (Edited)

a concept of property rights may automatically grow out of 2- to 3-year-olds’ ideas about bodily rights, such as assuming that another person can’t touch or control one’s body

There's a natural aversion to hObama's TSA gropers, and wealth spreaders too.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-26   11:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: mcgowanjm (#8)

The rest. They Do not. It takes training. Like Hate...

Do you have children?

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   11:45:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#9)

There's a natural aversion to hObama's socialist TSA gropers, and wealth spreaders too.

Time to grow up.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   11:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#9) (Edited)

There's a natural aversion to hObama's socialist TSA gropers, and wealth spreaders too.

By a toddler that's totally dependent on taking what it needs from it's family? The taking of the toys and claiming them as his own is just more of the same much like wanting a bottle. And is hardly an expression of property rights, unless that seemingly precocious toddler went out into the wide world and worked to earn that toy.

Otherwise known as the author's presumptive theory is wacked.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-26   11:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom, hondo68 (#11)

Time to grow up.

One just get's interested and he has to pull the old propaganda schtick. He's just trying to reel in suckers.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-26   11:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mininggold (#13)

One just get's interested and he has to pull the old propaganda schtick.

Too bad.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   12:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: lucysmom (#14)

Too bad.

The election of Obama seems to have triggered symptoms of a mental illness, especially OCD, in many posters.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-26   12:10:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: lucysmom (#10)

Do you have children?

Whoaa. And that has what to do with what.

That I'm not qualified...8D

Except that I am qualified to teach 1-12 + Adult Basic Ed.

And that I did a college study on my 2 y old niece and now her 2 year old son...

Two year olds watch you like a hawk and mimic you to the letter...8D

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-06-26   12:15:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mininggold (#15)

The election of Obama seems to have triggered symptoms of a mental illness, especially OCD, in many posters.

They have long past the point of shooting themselves in the foot.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   12:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

Whoaa. And that has what to do with what.

That I'm not qualified...8D

I knew a lot about children before I had my own.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   12:23:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mcgowanjm (#16)

I am qualified to teach 1-12 + Adult Basic Ed.

Best argument yet for abolishing the Department Of Education. It's for the children!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-26   12:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#12)

the author's presumptive theory is wacked

Kids don't like grabby socialists, deal with it!


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-26   12:52:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#20)

Kids don't like grabby socialists, deal with it!

Kids are grabby socialists.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   12:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: hondo68 (#20)

Kids don't like grabby socialists, deal with it!

Kids would not be able to live without socialism, which is the very definition of a functional family. Actually the dysfunctional family as far as raising well adjusted children is much more like the every man for himself model/rugged individual/ dog eat dog type.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-26   13:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#21) (Edited)

Kids are grabby socialists.

Hondo evidently has never been around young children. And I don't envy his life growing up, he would have had to earn his keep from a very, very young age.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-26   13:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: mininggold (#23)

And I don't envy his life growing up, he would have had to earn his keep from a very, very young age.

He is overcompensating for a childhood spent as a nonproductive parasite (or so he was told).

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-26   14:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: lucysmom (#24) (Edited)

He is overcompensating for a childhood spent as a nonproductive parasite (or so he was told).

Yet everytime he wanted his bottle his parents even then might have mistook it for him exerting his future conservative tendencies towards the accumulation of property. No wonder he's confused.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-26   14:47:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold (#25)

LOL

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-27   10:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: hondo68, All (#19)

I am qualified to teach 1-12 + Adult Basic Ed.

Best argument yet for abolishing the Department Of Education. It's for the children!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeeee HAAAh!!!!

LEt's play some Mortal Combat. For real!!!

Hell ain't 1/2 ful.

But Empire and christians are doin' their damdest to fill it up.

Keep comin!!!! Don't change a thing. LMFAO

So how did Strauss Kahn get out of jail, Mommy?

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-01   8:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: lucysmom (#18)

I knew a lot about children before I had my own.

Just make sure they keep all their fingers and toes.

OR

when they find out they've been left with nothing but buckets of shit by ALL of those parents who grabbed everythin g and ducked before them...

that's when we play Mortal Combat for real.

Out of the mouths of babes.

They pick up the Zeitgeist like it's Second Nature...

Mad MAx here we come!

LMFAO

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-01   8:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lucysmom (#10)

The rest. They Do not. It takes training. Like Hate...

Do you have children?

Everyone of them.

See children will learn. They can't help it.

Now learning what you want to teach them. That's something completely different.

25% of US children are living in poverty now. They're learning.

Fat assed toothless 1/3. And the Army's having a really tough time getting them into Imperial Warrior shape. Barely got California to let those Training Video Games thru.

And a starving society of yeast, bugs, animals will procreate faster. A survival mechanism.

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-07-01   8:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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