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Title: Comparative Analysis of the Pinguinite Forums
Source: LF
URL Source: http://www.libertysflame
Published: Jun 20, 2011
Author: buckeroo
Post Date: 2011-06-20 00:56:50 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 113167
Comments: 130

I was in process of posting to Fred Mertz on a thread here@LF about the styles of the various managers that was deleted by the LF forum manager.

LP is on decline while LF is on the ascension at the moment even though LF has fewer stalwart posters. I made this point to nolu chan @TPF irrespective of Alexia website ratings that TPF has claimed.

Here are MY ratings for "hit/post ratios WRT articles submitted": LP (declining), LF (ascending), 4UM(flat) and TPF (flat) but in that order.

Goldi has let her channel go to shit based on her continuous babbling about Israel.

Stone is silly and offensive as with Ferret and war, to posters and has a lot to learn to keep his fucking hands off the channel material unless it is obviously out of perspective with the scope of LF.

Christine runs the best channel of the lot and is perhaps the best manager I have ever seen.

Robin is the best technically. I NEVER even knew about her site until Stone talked about nolu chan over there. He is the absolute best poster on the Internet beyond ANY that I have seen.

So, we have different management styles on these channels and the same is true for many others as well. All good managers from the perspective they each want to place the BEST possible within their limited budgets both time and money. But Stone, sometimes has this EVIL streak running down his kick 'em out button. It shall be his own death knell.

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#1. To: Fred Mertz (#0)

Above is the last post I intended in my local cache before we got the axe on the "hacker" thread.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   0:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: buckeroo (#0)

But Stone, sometimes has this EVIL streak running down his kick 'em out button. It shall be his own death knell.

:)

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   1:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#2) (Edited)

I told you once before that you are your own worst enemy. There are literally millions of chit-chat forums on the Internet. I know you want to succeed with your ideas but sometimes you just can't get your trigger finger off the "kick 'em button."

You have to alter your methods of management style. You are dealing with posters that have been on the Internet for years transcending through time based on technological changes and you treat them as though they are your enemies.

They want to express a perspective is all and sometimes that same perspective may not be eloquent or desirable. But they aren't spammers or hackers or idiots.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   1:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: buckeroo (#3)

Well started thread Buck. You are correct. I don't need a Mommy or Daddy in forum.

Stone does not have posted rules such as when he posts epithets and childish content I don't wish to see that the kill file function that allows him top be bozoed, I can't do it.

He can always Pmail me at 4UM where I will take him on in forum. Tactics like coding the kill file to open when I sign on as is the case now on my account to put it in my nose is the work of an incredibly childish mind.

I never leave anyone on bozo; but I'll decide when I take Stone off that list.

He wears two hats in here; one as moderator. And he can always either use his screen to sanction, or Pmail me at 4UM. His other hat which is that of a rank and file commenter on politics and stories I don't have to listen to if I don't want to. And I won't right now for the time being.

If that is not good enough, ban me. I post lots of other places on the Internet and I don't mind it if Stone does that. Just don't play games.

It doesn't work. I'm not impressed.

I was going to completely stay way for a while, but I saw this thread and it speaks to then problem with this forum.

It actually runs better when Stone is away and he doesn't know what he's doing in very many ways. And he doesn't want to learn or work at Doug this forum better.

That's more to the point then I like to put it, but he asked for a blunt assessment with this tempt to bully and head trip me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-20   2:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike, war, A K A Stone, Pinguinite (#4)

I enjoy seeing different opinions; I have known you and war and fred (and thousands of posters on BBS, Usenet, IRC and web) for some ten+ years. Do any of us agree with each other often? HELL NO.

I am the radical guy that gets pissed and often beaten, berated and given lip service particularly because of my non-GOP or DEM perspective. I can only suppose Stone doesn't see any of the recent "hit counts' on LF as a function of some outstanding posters MAKING/CREATING contributions towards that are honest without regard to political slant or orientation.

I don't care about the juggling of GOP/DEM as most people know. I want the RAWMEAT of a singular personal opinion to consider. That is all. I may comment as i have time.

All of us MUST modify methods of communication that can otherwise create turbulence for our respective opinions. GOD, we already have politicians and government stripping us of rights and dignities everyday without finding further crap.

Stone has placed his website with time/money and an energetic approach to his ideals and concepts. He will NEVER achieve those objectives; it is the way of the world beyond his control.

Perhaps Stone requires some of our brief resumes based on electronic capability. I go back to BBS, USENET, IRC and for years web. The web is much more graphical and easy to trace, particularly because of Neil; it is the best dialog software on the planet. I have considered starting another chit-chat forum but am reserved to go forward; I would really like all the respective forums to come together into a unified or integral forum that shows cohesive characteristics as opposed to further division.

But, what we don't need is another fucking tyrant. Government has already seen to that!

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   3:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike, war, buckeroo (#4)

It actually runs better when Stone is away and he doesn't know what he's doing in very many ways.

Tell me about it.

Having said that, I enjoy posting to this chit-chat channel, that is until Stone gets his ass handed to him on a platter and he performs his childish tyrant moves of 5 minute suspensions and limiting poster privileges, like he did with you and war yesterday. I still don't know why he did this to you two, nor do I care.

Bucky, thanks for pinging me.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-20   8:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: buckeroo, Fred Mertz, Ferret Mike (#1)

Christine runs the best channel of the lot and is perhaps the best manager I have ever seen.

I think she banned me for posting pro socialized medicine articles - or to be more accurate - proving that America's health care system is inferior to those of western peer nations.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-20   9:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#3)

He's a fucking moron. I've never seen anyone trip over his own stupidity as much as Stone does...excepting Boofer, of course...

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 1 comment(s) so far today.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-20   9:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Godwinson, buckeroo, Fred Mertz, Ferret Mike (#7) (Edited)

Christine runs the best channel of the lot

Bull...4UM is an anti-Semitic echo chamber...it goes beyond policy towards Israel there. If you don't hate Jews for being Jews you don't fit in.

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 2 comment(s) so far today.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-20   9:25:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Fred Mertz, A K A Stone, war, buckeroo (#6) (Edited)

And why is he opening and looking at out bozo lists?

He took me off the ten post thing yesterday, and my post here made the child in charge put me in that status again. Which is fine. Nothing he can do will ever influence my posting. And I vow now never, ever to take him off bozo. He's there on it like the list was a ROM chip and I'd have to flash his name out of there to get him off it.

So, why is he snooping out lists. Does he read our Pmail too? Dose he take our IPs and Phish with them?

Other then this thread, I am basically done in this forum. So the ten post thing doesn't bother me. Not posting here anymore doesn't bother me either.

And I will rip this clown a new asshole in 4UM every chance I get.

I am creeped out by my bozo list opening when I open a page here. It means Stone is not only less then trustworthy, it makes me what illegal things he does in his day to day.

This is because he has the feel of a criminal now. And he has destroyed any chance at goodwill of any kind between us.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-20   11:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#10)

Other than this thread, I am basically done in this forum.

I hope you reconsider at some point in the future.

Stone seems like a person who has no friends. It must be rough to go through life like that. Plus, he never seems to learn anything new other than his narrow minded ways. He's like a Tourettes type of a poster with a Napoleonic complex.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-20   11:26:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: buckeroo (#0)

Christine runs the best channel of the lot and is perhaps the best manager I have ever seen.

She allows Jethro to stalk posters.

She banned me because I was giving Jethro fits whenever he would stalk me over there and I refused her repeated requests to apologize to the big bad policeman over hurting his widdle feelings. 4Um really seems more like a small clique or social club.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-20   11:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mininggold (#12)

You attacked her man.

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 7 comment(s) so far today.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-20   11:37:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#10)

And why is he opening and looking at out bozo lists?

He has the self control of a 3 year old who doesn't know his thumb from his dick.

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 8 comment(s) so far today.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-20   11:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mininggold (#12)

She allows Jethro to stalk posters.

And ban them, too.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-06-20   11:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#8)

"He's a fucking moron. I've never seen anyone trip over his own stupidity as much as Stone does...excepting Boofer, of course..."

This "Wahhh! you put wittle me on bozo, Wah!" act is megalomania in the Jim Jones' 'I have a cult and you damn well are going to drink the arsenic and Kool Aid' realm.

We should all put him on bozo and spike his list to a high number. If you really want to see what the clown says, open another brand of browser and put your name in the 'from' box to see if dumb shit pinged you.

Don't respond to his posts either. Meglomaniacs go crazy if they are not the center of attention, and if people don't respnd back

You have seen how he prow beats Lucysmom and tends to directly order women around. He is a control freak and he goes nuts if he is not the center of attention.

Why else would someone who hates to run a forum have one? If you are dedicated to the notion of running a forum well, you don't do it by making no rules except for the unwritten one that if you put his childish ass on bozo he'll sanction ya.

He is a sociopath and has no sense of operating a certain way because he has good ethics and concerned on how his behavior affects others.

Even this bull shit religion hair blouse he puts on with the button sew on the left side is comical.

He doesn't follow an Golden Rule or worry what he does might hurt others; he does what he does only out of fear of going to hell. If the mirage of his religion wasn't real in his mind, be'd be completely out of control in many more ways other then this.

Don't post articles, bozo him and tell him it's because he's your bitch; not the other way around.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-20   11:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#14)

"He has the self control of a 3 year old who doesn't know his thumb from his dick."

I'm willing to bet he has a love hate relationship of any church he belongs to if indeed this sociopath does belong to one.

He likes to control, not have concern of others moderate his behavior. That is the one downside to this thread; it gives the prick more notice than his whining ass deserves. Which is why I make it a point that when I'm done commenting here, I'm elsewhere.

Stone is a misogynous, racist, and religiously intolerent sociopath that deserves only the shown the ignore treatment.

Let him have some of the medicine he hates the most.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-20   12:02:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Godwinson (#7) (Edited)

I think she banned me for posting pro socialized medicine articles - or to be more accurate - proving that America's health care system is inferior to those of western peer nations.

Shoot Christine an email. She may have reconsidered her stance concerning your opinions or reasons for the blackball .

I am (perhaps) the most colorful poster upon the Internet from the viewpoint of being "black&blue" by every manager under the Sun. It is all fun to me, however. Years ago, I learned to live with the fact that sometimes (for what-ever reasons) it is possible to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

I was Christine's first ban after she started 4um; which is often the case for me no matter where I go. I have a "way" of getting under the skin of others as I choose to make commentary; I attempt to evoke personal opinion, not some canned crap from a syllabus located somewhere beyond the personal perspective.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   12:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war, A K A Stone (#8)

You have made 1 comment(s) so far today.

FREE WAR

socalv8  posted on  2011-06-20   12:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: war (#8)

He's a fucking moron. I've never seen anyone trip over his own stupidity as much as Stone does

Stone's methods for his channel management style are often imbecilic, for sure.

Still, I have noted more posters popping in to LF and perhaps Stone is defensive of the forum. His reasons are his alone.

Diversity of opinion is the key to success whether anyone agrees with this point of view or not. If these chit-chat channel managers skew the forum impetus into their own way of thinking what shall happen is the inevitable: a hollow, echo chamber that is meaningless of and about personal opinion while some members chit-chat with a cup of tea or coffee because they have otherwise useless lives to begin with.

Strength *IS* diversity of opinion. It is not some singular model of thought or thinking guided by anyone or group. How else can we modify ourselves or the world around us but by attempting to learn new ideas?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   13:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: socalv8 (#19)

To HELL with him.

He's a pathological liar, and a socialist.

And he's an asshole, to boot.

The same could be said for rat-boy mike.

"You are not a dummy Eric, but you are a man who sees no shade of grays. Just black and white. And unless you dehumanize your political adversaries and practice psychology with no license in diagnosing mental illness where there is none, you cannot cope with politics." --Ferret Mike. Translation:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-20   13:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeroo (#20)

Strength *IS* diversity of opinion.

In an honest intellectual debate, sure.

But neither rat-boy nor DwarF are interested in honest intellectual discussions.

They're disinformation specialists, which is the antithesis of what a discussion forum is about.

"You are not a dummy Eric, but you are a man who sees no shade of grays. Just black and white. And unless you dehumanize your political adversaries and practice psychology with no license in diagnosing mental illness where there is none, you cannot cope with politics." --Ferret Mike. Translation:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-20   13:06:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Capitalist Eric (#21)

I like war. I dislike many war positions. Neither of us have gotten personal so we can "discuss". Either back up and mutually agree to discuss, hate or ignore. Ignore is boring, hate is easy to find on these type forums...

I like you AND war...let's all debate without graphics and insults, we'll all get smarter and have more fun.

socalv8  posted on  2011-06-20   13:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war (#9)

Bull...4UM is an anti-Semitic echo chamber...it goes beyond policy towards Israel there. If you don't hate Jews for being Jews you don't fit in.

I don't see it. I see diversified opinions attempting to identify the root cause of failure for America's weaknesses concerning domestic and international policies that WE are forced to pay for through generous contributions of our sweat&blood.

Let Israel stand on its own two legs; they are a sovereign nation for some 60 years, now. It is time that America takes care of our own.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   13:23:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Fred Mertz, Ferret Mike (#11)

I hope you reconsider at some point in the future.

Fully concur.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   13:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mininggold, war, Jethro Tull (#12)

I can't really comment because I don't know any of the details. You are an awesome poster, mininggold. JT has changed his ways over the years and has become a more hard-liner with his opinions that probably influence 4UM management.

Often, JT is refreshing in his views; the guy was a serious cop on a professional basis. If you take his professional background in combination with his personal opinions you see a completely different picture about his commentary concerning the world.

JT posts on LF. Perhaps he can comment.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   14:09:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Skip Intro (#15)

And ban them, too.

If you haven't been banned you don't make *ANY* impact on opinion. Being banned is the last issue to consider when stating a responsible post.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   14:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

We should all put him on bozo and spike his list to a high number. If you really want to see what the clown says, open another brand of browser and put your name in the 'from' box to see if dumb shit pinged you.

What is the point of joining a chit-chat channel and then filtering some poster? Aren't you bigger than that comment? I have known you for over a decade on the Internet (before 2000 on FR) through many forums.

I have never heard you talk like this before. I shall SKYPE you when you have your camera on line.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   14:28:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: buckeroo (#0)

4UM -- Right wing Paultards who hate Juze.

TPF -- Insane left wing moonbats who hate Juze.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-20   14:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo, war, a k a stone (#28)

"What is the point of joining a chit-chat channel and then filtering some poster? Aren't you bigger than that comment? I have known you for over a decade on the Internet (before 2000 on FR) through many forums."

And I wouldn't answer that one unless someone asked me what you just did.

I normally would never bozo that bozo. I made sure this came on his radar when I first saw him sanction war the first time for this.

I only bozoed stone because he was being a bully to war for selfish and immature reasons.

What a forum owner does that is sociopathic and unfair and hurts another causes injury to me.

I am letting stone's bad judgment affect who posts here. I actually enjoy the sanction of the 'probationary' thing because I'm leaving solely because of bad conduct of this guy which he started with this 'i'll hold my breath and turn blue if you bozo me' crap.

You see, I don't want to post here if he is going to be reading my bozo list and opening it for me and showing it to me every time I open a window to his site. I would still stay if it was an isolated thing only affecting me. Because this is an ongoing situatiuon that affects others I have to go to other places more enjoyable then here.

This is not hard to do, to leave. And I am doing it for the right reason.

Stone cares for no one but himself.

I leave because he's unfair and bullying toward others. I would never do it just because of the selfish interest he is doing this to me.

Thanks for the question, you get the brass ring.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-20   14:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: no gnu taxes (#29)

4UM -- Right wing Paultards who hate Juze.

TPF -- Insane left wing moonbats who hate Juze.

Assuming you are a single poster I want you to remember something important towards your ugly posting career: You are judged by others not necessarily about what you say but what you don't say.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   15:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

I only bozoed stone because he was being a bully to war for selfish and immature reasons.

That won't sink in to his thick, Neanderthal noggin.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-20   15:35:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeroo, calcon, Ferret Mike, war, Skip Intro, mininggold, lucysmom, All (#31)

I just received a PM from Ferret Mike.

I'm putting A K A Goldi on bozo in memory of Mike.


From: Ferret
To: Fred Mertz
Subject: Re:

Stone just banned me. Besure folks know this. Thanks.

Mike

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-20   16:05:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: buckeroo (#31)

Why do I care about how I am judged by a bunch of kooks?

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-20   16:13:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: harrowup (#33)

ping to #33 - your furry friend is a goner.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-20   16:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Fred Mertz (#35)

your furry friend is a goner.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-20   16:25:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: no gnu taxes (#34)

Why do I care about how I am judged by a bunch of kooks?

Do you regard yourself as a non-kook?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   16:38:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: buckeroo (#0)

LP is on decline while LF is on the ascension at the moment even though LF has fewer stalwart posters.

Stone just banned me. Besure folks know this. Thanks.

Mike

Would you like to revise your opinion, in light of recent events?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-20   16:39:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: hondo68 (#38)

I have been banned no less than four times by Stone; he is not alone exercising his trigger-finger. And I always pop back.

Perhaps Stone is on some cycle of banning or limiting posters again; but he has performed that way since he created Libertysflame.

Mike knows how to pop back, too.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   16:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Capitalist Eric, ferret mike, war (#22)

In an honest intellectual debate, sure.

But neither rat-boy nor DwarF are interested in honest intellectual discussions.

Since you use high and mighty terms to separate yourself from the rif-raf or chafe, I suppose you regard yourself as an "intellectual" correct? But, have you ever reviewed your own commentary?

Do you realize how silly you are with all those pictures in your tag-line?

I enjoy some of your articles. But, to be honest, your commentary sucks. You are akin to a mild-version of Mad Dog.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   16:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: buckeroo (#40)

I suppose you regard yourself as an "intellectual" correct?

No. Quite the opposite- I view myself as a guy who somehow grasps things that others (for whatever reason) do not. I look at economics, the same way I look at electrical and mechanical engineering puzzles, and just seem to know the solution... It's as easy to me as when you look at the lawn in front of your house, and say, "oh, the grass is green." In the same way that such a fact would be self-evident to you, it seems to be that way with me, when it comes to engineering and economics.

I don't think of myself as an intellectual, because that would imply that I really need to think about this stuff, to understand the ramifications. Am I working on my doctorate? Yeah. But the reason I'm doing it, is not to become an "intellectual." It's to have the strongest educational safety-net, to assure my family has adequate income for the forseeable future. It's an insurance policy, that's all...

But, have you ever reviewed your own commentary?

Why should I? I wrote it, so what purpose is to be served by reviewing it again?

Do you realize how silly you are with all those pictures in your tag-line?

I really don't care about your opinion.

I enjoy some of your articles.

Fine.

But, to be honest, your commentary sucks.

My goals are two-fold:

1. Post information so that people can understand what's coming, and
2. Shut down the disinformation/statist freaks, who would lead us all to the slaughter, if they could.

If that bruises your sensibilities, I really don't care. If you have full (or as close to full) information on which to make decisions which could very well affect your livelihood, or the survival of your family in the economic hurricane that we're in the middle of, then I'm good with that.

But truly, I don't care if you like me or not... As I told lucysmom the other day, my motives are very simple: get the information out. If we're in a crowded movie theater, and a fire breaks out, would you rather I yell FIRE! or just run out on my own? If you'd prefer and watch the movie, eating your popcorn, until you become "extra crispy," I can't do much about that... But at least I can warn people, and they can make their own choices... But the first thing to do is break the spell of fascination with the ongoing "bread-and-circuses" show, break people away from the distractions, so that they can see what's really going on...

Those that choose to ignore the truth, and believe the more-interesting fictions of the nightly news, I can do nothing for... Those that will wake up, will have at least a choice...

You are akin to a mild-version of Mad Dog.

I don't know what motivates him- and I've never asked. But you know where I'm coming from- for better or worse. And now, knowing this, you can probably understand why- though I'm accused by the forum trolls and disinfo specialists of being a liar, I have absolutely NO reason to lie, and every reason to speak factually.

If that makes it hard to read my commentary, than the answer is simple: don't.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-20   17:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Capitalist Eric (#41)

I really don't care about your opinion.

Yes you do. That is why you are on these chit-chat forums. Of course, it may not be specifically my opinions but never-the-less you are interested in opinions particularly given the frequency of your own posts.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   19:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: buckeroo (#42)

You overestimate yourself.

((((yawn))))

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-20   19:23:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: buckeroo (#27)

If you haven't been banned you don't make *ANY* impact on opinion.

I guess I'm a success then, having been banned on 4um, LP, and here every now and then.

I should try FR again. I'm sure I could get banned there with one post.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-06-20   20:24:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Capitalist Eric (#43)

((((yawn))))

And you are arrogant.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   20:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Skip Intro (#44)

I guess I'm a success then, having been banned on 4um, LP, and here every now and then.

You have made the BIG_TYME!

The goal of posting (for me) is to make a meaningful remarck based on an article or comment. The badge of courage is to state an informed opinion that has impact not hunkering down to a group of elastic rules that are often modified based on bias and ignorance. But, largely I read anymore. There is a lot to learn about a continuous poster by observing what they don't say.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-20   20:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: war (#9)

Bull...4UM is an anti-Semitic echo chamber

So, if you held the Cuckoo's Nest up to a mirror, you would have 4UM?

Bartcoprules  posted on  2011-06-20   21:42:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: buckeroo (#37)

Do you regard yourself as a non-kook?

Of course.

So you regard yourself as some kind of pseudo-intellectual twit for all this arm chair amateur hour psychobabble?

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-21   7:57:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

You'll be back. You attention whores always come back. Btw, I laughed when I read yours and Dickie's posts concerning Stone. Everything you wrote describes you two to a 't'.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   8:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Rudgear, A K A Stone (#49)

"You'll be back. You attention whores always come back."

Actually, I felt I have to return to do one post. I have no desire to be here if I can't bozo Stone's hateful verbiage.

I checked with Neil McIver and my Windows 7 machine and software opened the page on my bozo list.

When you open a new browser in Win 7 and click on an additional tab, you get choices based on frequency of use of the site.

I am not experienced with Win 7 and it seemed like the result I was getting came to the computer and showed Stone with access to my bozo list he should not have unless he had phished or figured out my password.

I cannot make such an accusation and not apologize if reasonable doubt is established by the writer of the forum software.

IF I don't believe in what I post and it could harm the reputation of another, I will take responsibility for that.

I'm not returning, I am really tired of this place because of Stone's lack of rules on posting that remove unfair advantage for the poster's poing of view, and I am tired of the childish squabbling and bull shit Stone allows that does nothing constructive toward the end of running a forum.

I also do not agree with his one self serving rule about the kill file function that would force me to see his hatefulness and immature garbage.

He can leave this account open or close it if he wishes after this post. Because for nw I am on hiatus from here.

And I can feel better about leaving knowing he actually has not been proved to be into personal accounts and that I was able to satisfy my own standards of behavior by correcting the record when it seems I was wrong.

Good luck and I'll be online and in forums, just not here for the time being.

My mistake has a component of a lack of trust that still remains, and I have to respect that. But I do wish you, Stone and others here good luck and wish you the best.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-21   9:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ferret Mike, Fred Mertz, mininggold, Skip Intro, lucysmom, socalv8, buckeroo (#50) (Edited)

Stone, after denying it, was forced to admit that he did read PM's.

I silently bozo'd him this time, i.e., did not tell him this time that I HAD bozo'd him. How does he know that he was bozo'd by me?

It puts the Yukon thing in perspective, too. Stone knows that Yukon is a liar.

All of that taken together puts Stone into perspective...untrustworthy and willing to "protect" a disruptor while showing absolutely no loyalty.

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

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war  posted on  2011-06-21   9:14:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Ferret Mike (#50)

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-06-21   9:26:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Rudgear (#49)

You'll be back. You attention whores always come back. Btw, I laughed when I read yours and Dickie's posts concerning Stone. Everything you wrote describes you two to a 't'.

Yep. But it does keep em out of the bars, and off the street corners....lol

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-21   9:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: war (#51)

All of that taken together puts Stone into perspective...untrustworthy and willing to "protect" a disruptor while showing absolutely no loyalty.

I know you can't see this because you are a gutless turd hiding behind the bozo feature, but you are one of the most disruptive, untrustworthy punk cowards who shows no honor or respect to a site owner who is one of perhaps two people on the Internet that continue to tolerate your shit on a daily basis. The time-out doesn't seem to make an impression on you and you cannot control yourself it seems. If its that bad and all you and your commie cell members can do is insult your host, go to Red Robin's freak show. You'll fit right in.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   10:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Badeye (#53)

Yep. But it does keep em out of the bars, and off the street corners....lol

They have the victim rhetoric down pat. They create the situation where it is necessary to do something and then they cry that they are being picked on unjustly. I can't imaging going through life thinking like this.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   10:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Bartcoprules, Fred Mertz (#47)

Chyea...funny...

Stone just got bitch slapped at 4UM.

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   10:16:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#56)

You call that a bitch slapping, Dick? If you weren't such a loser maybe you wouldn't get your widdle feewings hurt and banned or restricted ALL OVER THE INTERNET. Its not you; its everyone else.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   10:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Rudgear (#54)

I know you can't see this because you are a gutless turd hiding behind the bozo feature...

Eight gutless wonders have me bozoed.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   10:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Rudgear, war (#57)

If you weren't such a loser maybe you wouldn't get your widdle feewings hurt and banned or restricted ALL OVER THE INTERNET.

And yet his posts have more actual content, as opposed to poop, than most posters here - go figure.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   10:35:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: lucysmom (#58) (Edited)

The most hilarious assertion ever made about you was that you are an ACORN Misinformationist...made even more so given this past April...

I only bozo people who are in attack mode 365/24/7...unless, of course, they are funny even if they don't mean to be...it's why Erica isn't sucking the bozo but Rudy is...Erica has predicted 10 of the last 0 collapses of the US being preceded by hyperinflation. How can you not laugh at that? Rudy is just plain boring.

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   10:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: buckeroo (#26)

JT posts on LF. Perhaps he can comment.

He got me banned here too. His actions are all the proof I need.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-21   10:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeroo (#45)

And you are arrogant.

I get that a lot, from ignorant people.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   10:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Capitalist Eric, buckeroo (#62)

I'll defend you here, Erica.

You're not arrogant.

You're not smart or good enough to merit it.

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America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   10:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#60)

I only bozo people who are in attack mode 365/24/7...

When people have that much rage, it's internal, and has nothing to do with the issue or persons at hand.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   10:56:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: lucysmom (#58)

I don't se the logic of crying about being kicked off message boards (or signing up for posting privileges) and then filtering people. Whatever.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   10:56:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: war (#60)

The most hilarious assertion ever made about you was that you are an ACORN Misinformationist...made even more so given this past April...

Actually I thought that was pretty funny too.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   10:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike, Rudgear, A K A Stone (#50)

rat-boy: ...I am basically done in this forum. So the ten post thing doesn't bother me. Not posting here anymore doesn't bother me either.... This is not hard to do, to leave. And I am doing it for the right reason.

Rudgear: "You'll be back. You attention whores always come back."
rat-boy: Actually, I felt I have to return to do one post.

LMAO!

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   11:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: war, buckeroo, A K A Stone (#63)

dummy DwarF: I'll defend you here, Erica.

Dummy, you can't defend yourself. If you could make legit arguments, instead of knee-jerking back into "Disinfo Mode," and resorting to your juvenile personal attacks, you wouldn't have "Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day" on your posts.

You think your feeble opinion, will be strengthened by the force of your message. In reality, the opposite is true.

You're not arrogant. You're not smart or good enough to merit it.

You lack the ability to judge what is smart OR good.

Hell, your own track-record through FR, LP and now LF, are a testament to your fecklessness. In the battle of wits, you show up with a banana in your hand, and a chip on your shoulder.

Which leads us right back to the following- a direct result of your lack of worth, to the forum:

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day.
I hope Stone gives you the boot.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   11:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Rudgear (#49)

You'll be back. You attention whores always come back

Unfortunately the really stupid ones like you never leave.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-06-21   11:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Rudgear, war (#57)

Its not you; its everyone else.

An old chief I used to work for once said, "If you meet more than three assholes in one day, you'd better look in the mirror."

Methinks that dummy DwarF and rat-boy are seeing assholes everywhere they turn...

LOL... Reminds me of the movie "Spaceballs..."

Dark Helmet: Careful you idiot! I said across her nose, not up it!
Laser Gunner: Sorry sir! I'm doing my best!
Dark Helmet: Who made that man a gunner?
Major Asshole: I did sir. He's my cousin.
Dark Helmet: Who is he?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole sir.
Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
Colonel Sandurz: That is his name sir. Asshole, Major Asshole!
Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole too sir. Gunner's mate First Class Philip Asshole!
Dark Helmet: How many asholes do we have on this ship, anyway?
[Entire bridge crew stands up and raises a hand]
Entire Bridge Crew: Yo!
Dark Helmet: I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes!

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   11:27:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Skip Intro (#69)

If you don't like my being here, leave. You offer nothing but kissing war's ass for him.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   11:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Capitalist Eric (#68) (Edited)

Which leads us right back to the following- a direct result of your lack of worth, to the forum:

A) The biggest disinformationist here is you. You've been predicting the same doom and gloom for 10 years now. What makes it even more hilarious, is that we've had ups and downs in the economy but not because of any reason you have cited nor anything near the total collapse you've been predicting.

B) You ARE an asshole and seeing you IS seeing three. That's what your "chief" was telling you. If you, Erica, see MORE than three go look in the mirror and see the FIRST three.

C) Stone has no balls. He's well known to have no balls and it's not surprising, given your penchant for wearing skirts, heels and lipstick, that you'd hide behind someone with no balls and egg him on. And I have no record on FR...if I made 20 posts there I've probably over estimated by 5...

D) I still look forward to the day that we may meet, Erica. Posting the Youtube video of you taking those last few puzzled blinks and gasps will be a very happy day on the internet indeed.

Love,
The DwarF

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-21   11:37:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Capitalist Eric (#70)

I remember that scene. Too bad the people who need to take the lesson to heart cannot see themselves in it. I guess being willfully deluded has something to do with it.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   11:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Ferret Mike (#50)

From: Ferret
To: Fred Mertz
Subject: Re:

Stone just banned me. Besure folks know this. Thanks.

Mike

You forgot to apologize for lying about being banned.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-21   11:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: hondo68 (#74)

As noted by that great philosopher:

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   11:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: war (#60)

The most hilarious assertion ever made about you was that you are an ACORN Misinformationist...made even more so given this past April...

If I remember correctly, that was Nurse Ratched.

Bartcoprules  posted on  2011-06-21   11:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: war (#56)

Stone just got bitch slapped at 4UM.

I saw the heading but the thread was deleted. A K A Goldi has the maturity of a six year-old.

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Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-21   13:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Fred Mertz (#77)

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 0 comment(s) so far today.

YOU'RE on probation too?

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   14:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: war (#72) (Edited)

A) The biggest disinformationist here is you. You've been predicting the same doom and gloom for 10 years now. What makes it even more hilarious, is that we've had ups and downs in the economy but not because of any reason you have cited nor anything near the total collapse you've been predicting.

Sure, dummy, SURE... So your contention is that things are just swimmingly good right now.

Consider the following FACTS:

#1 Today, 25 million Americans are either unemployed or underemployed. 6 million of those have been out of work for at least 6 months. The average duration of unemployment in the U.S. is now close to 40 weeks.

#2 The unofficial misery index, which is calculated by combining unemployment and inflation, is now at a 28 year high.

#3 Sadly, if unemployment and inflation were calculated the same way that they were back in the 1970s, the misery index would actually be much, much higher. According to John Williams of Shadow Government Statistics, the current "real" rate of inflation is approximately 11.2% instead of the 3.6% figure that the U.S. government wants us to believe.

#4 Greece is on the verge of complete and total financial collapse. The yield on two year Greek bonds is up to 28 percent. The European Central Bank and the German government have been fighting over what to do to solve the Greek crisis. The truth is that without a bailout the Greek government will default. If Greece defaults, it would be a huge nightmare for world financial markets.

#5 Neil MacKinnon, an analyst at VTB Capital, is warning that a Greek implosion could set off a 2008-style financial crisis....

"The risk of a 'Lehman moment' for the eurozone is increasing"

#6 Spain is also potentially a major problem. The Spanish economy is more than twice the size of the Greek, Irish and Portuguese economies combined. Over the past 12 months, the yield on 10 year Spanish bonds has been rising steadily, and many believe that Spain could be the tipping point that pushes the sovereign debt crisis in Europe over the edge.

#7 State and local governments all over the United States are cutting their budgets and are implementing brutal austerity measures. For example, one small town in Alabama has actually decided that they are simply going to stop paying pension benefits to their retirees. In other areas, teachers and police officers are being fired in massive numbers. UBS Investment Research is projecting that state and local governments in the U.S. will combine to slash a whopping 450,000 jobs by the end of next year.

#8 The middle class in the United States is being systematically ripped to shreds. The poorest 50% of all Americans collectively own just 2.5% of all the wealth in the United States at this point.

#9 It is never a good sign when even the big Wall Street banks start laying off workers. CNBC is reporting that Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley and many other big firms on Wall Street are planning some large staff reductions in the months ahead. That is a very bad sign for the economy.

#10 Things have gotten so bad that some mainstream media outlets are actually encouraging Americans to go out and start racking up credit card debt once again. For example, one recent USA Today article was actually entitled "More credit card debt might be good for the economy". Of course the big banks are ready to suck the lifeblood out of anyone that does slip up on making their credit card payments. One major bank has announced that a single late payment could result in a penalty rate as high as 29.99%.

#11 According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the share of national income being taken home by American workers is at a post-war low and is rapidly declining.

#12 Reuters is reporting that many of Wall Street's biggest banks plan to cut their use of U.S. Treasuries starting in August. China has already been dumping short-term U.S. debt. But if most of the big players abandon the market, who is going to buy up the massive amounts of debt that the U.S. government needs to issue?

#13 Dean Baker of the Center for Economic and Policy Research apparently believes that we are already in a depression....

"At some point, the pain of high unemployment may lead to some new thinking in Washington – but until that time, welcome to the second Great Depression"

#14 The U.S. banking system could plunge into disaster at any moment. The FDIC is backing up 7 trillion dollars in deposits with an insurance fund that barely has anything in it.

#15 It seems like almost everyone is talking about the next financial collapse. Renowned investor Jim Rogers recently said the following....

"I would expect to see some serious problems in the foreseeable future….By 2011, 2012, 2013, 2013, I don’t know when, we’re going to have an economic slowdown again."

#16 Legendary hedge fund manager Mark Mobius is bracing for the worst. Just consider the following quote from Mobius that recently appeared in Forbes magazine....

There is definitely going to be another financial crisis around the corner," says hedge fund legend Mark Mobius, "because we haven't solved any of the things that caused the previous crisis."

#17 Between 2007 and 2010, U.S. GDP grew by only 4.26%, but the U.S. national debt soared by 61% during that same time period. It is clearly unsustainable for our debt to be growing so much faster than our economy is.

#18 Peter Yastrow, a market strategist for Yastrow Origer, recently told CNBC the following....

"Interest rates are amazingly low and that, thanks to Ben Bernanke, is driving everything," Yastrow said. "We’re on the verge of a great, great depression. The [Federal Reserve] knows it."

#19 The American people are extremely pessimistic about the economy right now. According to one recent poll, 56 percent of Americans have lost sleep due to the economy and about three-quarters of Americans believe that the nation is on the wrong track.

Bottom line, dummy DwarF, is that the collapse of our economy is happening RIGHT NOW, as I've been predicting for ~7 years...

B) You ARE an asshole and seeing you IS seeing three. That's what your "chief" was telling you. If you, Erica, see MORE than three go look in the mirror and see the FIRST three.

Hmmm... So, by presenting facts- despite all your twisting and gyrations, despite your strict adherence to the Rules of Disinformation- I piss you off so bad that you consider me to be as bad as THREE other posters?

It means I'm getting through, DESPITE your best efforts! Thanks for the excellent feedback! Much appreciated! LOL.

C) Stone has no balls. He's well known to have no balls and it's not surprising, given your penchant for wearing skirts, heels and lipstick, that you'd hide behind someone with no balls and egg him on. And I have no record on FR...if I made 20 posts there I've probably over estimated by 5...

Yeah, riiiiiiiight.... LOL. Going back to the rules of disinformation. Nice mixing of them, BTW. You FAIL.

D) I still look forward to the day that we may meet, Erica. Posting the Youtube video of you taking those last few puzzled blinks and gasps will be a very happy day on the internet indeed.

You and your fellow traitors- who happily enable the overt destruction of my country, and the installation of a socialist police-state- will pay the price for your treachery.

Now STFU, punk. I grow tired of b!tch-slapping you... it's starting to get boring.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   14:02:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: hondo68 (#74)

You forgot to apologize for lying about being banned.

Evidently you're a good wittle poster and never been banned. Stoned banned and unbanned me three times in one day once within minutes. I believe it was because I disagreed with him about the SCOTUS corporate first amendment rights and catching him editing posts.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-21   14:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Capitalist Eric (#79)

#1 Today, 25 million Americans are either unemployed or underemployed. 6 million of those have been out of work for at least 6 months. The average duration of unemployment in the U.S. is now close to 40 weeks.

#2 The unofficial misery index, which is calculated by combining unemployment and inflation, is now at a 28 year high.

#3 Sadly, if unemployment and inflation were calculated the same way that they were back in the 1970s, the misery index would actually be much, much higher. According to John Williams of Shadow Government Statistics, the current "real" rate of inflation is approximately 11.2% instead of the 3.6% figure that the U.S. government wants us to believe.

How can this be? Corporate earning are at an all time high and they claim to be the chief job creators in the USA and will create more if we will only let them keep the money.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-21   14:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: lucysmom (#78)

YOU'RE on probation too?

Yes, I put A K A Blockhead on bozo in solidarity with Ferret Mike, bless his soul.

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Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-21   14:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Rudgear (#55)

They have the victim rhetoric down pat

Yep, thats why the dwarf whines to every site owner thats ever allowed him to register.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-21   15:04:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Capitalist Eric (#79) (Edited)

I know that none of that could have come from your brain, Erica.

Please link me to what it was that you copied and pasted.

Thanks.

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war  posted on  2011-06-21   15:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: war (#84) (Edited)

Do your OWN homework, dummy.

Oh, and nice attempt to avoid the point- that the economy is collapsing NOW. Thanks for playing, dummy! :)

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   16:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Fred Mertz (#82)

Yes, I put A K A Blockhead on bozo in solidarity with Ferret Mike, bless his soul.

No kidding? That's just weird.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   17:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war, Capitalist Eric (#84)

I know that none of that could have come from your brain, Erica.

Well you know, he has a deep understanding of these things that surpasses that of mere mortal men. (Copyright © 2011 Economic Collapse Blog)

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   17:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: lucysmom (#87)

(Copyright © 2011 Economic Collapse Blog)

How's the dummy gonna' learn, if you keep doing his homework for him?

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   19:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: war (#72)

D) I still look forward to the day that we may meet, Erica. Posting the Youtube video of you taking those last few puzzled blinks and gasps will be a very happy day on the internet indeed.

Yeah, you're quite the combat expert, aren't you?

ESAD.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   19:25:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Capitalist Eric (#89)

I like how he cries and bitches to Stone about being put upon and persecuted, even by Stone himself. And lets not forget about posting the personal info warped has posted about himself on the 'net and can even post threats to others and still sees himself as the victim. I guess that no-fault divorce fried his last synapse.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-21   19:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Capitalist Eric (#88)

How's the dummy gonna' learn, if you keep doing his homework for him?

Wikipedia has this to say about referring to oneself in the third person: Similarly illeism is used with an air of grandeur, to give the speaker lofty airs. Idiosyncratic and conceited people are known to either use or are lampooned as using illeism to puff themselves up or illustrate their egoism.

Further, the dummy needs to know that using another's copyrighted material without crediting the author is akin to stealing.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-21   20:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: lucysmom (#91)

Ooh, that's your best attempt at wit, yet!

Keep trying... eventually, you might grow a brain.

But you'll still be one stupid bitch, no matter what... and of course, you'll have your HAND out, begging for MY money.

Eat shit and die, grannie.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-21   23:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Capitalist Eric (#92)

But you'll still be one stupid bitch, no matter what... and of course, you'll have your HAND out, begging for MY money.

Eat shit and die, grannie.

I really do hate to be trite, but sometimes it's unavoidable. The above says more about you than it does about me.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-22   0:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Capitalist Eric (#89) (Edited)

Geezus...Erica...now you're posting scenes from gay "snuff" films in addition to copyrighted material that you're trying to pass off as your own? Here's a hint...when you're asked for YOUR predictions, it's unethical and, in this case since you published it here, iLLEGAL to try to pass off someone else's material as your own.

Anyway, back to your perversion. Why would you even have those pictures of those obviously gay teens on your computer? They don't even look 18...geezus...you are one sick perv. IS Packrat a relative of yours?

Given your penchant for posting copyrighted material and trying to pass it off as your own, how much of your alleged dissertation have you cribbed?

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war  posted on  2011-06-22   7:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Capitalist Eric (#89) (Edited)

erica, is that you and your butt buddy yukon having a little target practice to get yourselves all hot and bothered for an afternoon of gay sex on the beach.

calcon  posted on  2011-06-22   9:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: calcon (#95) (Edited)

I'm still waiting for Erica to frantically ***PING*** A K A Balless with the claim that he posted the "wrong" picture...

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--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-22   9:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: war (#96)

I'm still waiting for Erica to frantically ***PING*** A K A Balless with the claim that he posted the "wrong" picture...

And I still can't figure out what that picture of the dead possum on the highway has to do with anything. Maybe he hates road builders? Who knows.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-22   10:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: mininggold (#97)

And I still can't figure out what that picture of the dead possum on the highway has to do with anything. Maybe he hates road builders? Who knows.

I think it's a metaphor for his careless disregard for life.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-22   11:01:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: lucysmom (#98) (Edited)

I think it's a metaphor for his careless disregard for life.

Pretty accurate metaphore for his god ...capitalism. But I would bet he can't tell a possum from a rat. I raised two baby possums this year that had been abandoned.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-22   11:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: war (#94)

...now you're posting scenes from gay "snuff" films...

I wouldn't know about gay snuff films- I'll leave such subjects to your vast range of experience. As well, I didn't try "to pass off" *anything* as mine. I've been posting from "the economic collapse blog" for a long time, as LP records will easily show. The facts are the same ones I've been posting from their articles for at least the past year.

I also never claimed to come up with the Rules of Disinformation. I posted the article, and where YOU are concerned, it seems only natural to keep bringing them up, since it's the playbook you follow faithfully.

In this case:

Rule of Disinformation #4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad.

Rule of Disinformation #5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach.

Rule of Disinformation #7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

Rule of Disinformation #17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

Rule of Disinformation #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

Rule of Disinformation #20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

As usual, you fail. But thanks for the laughs.

Let's list what you've demonstrated in this thread:

1. You watch gay snuff films,
2. were rejected by your wife, and
3. are so emotionally damaged, that you create enemies to lash out against, threaten and goad, because you're such an empty shell of a human being.

Life must really suck- even for a dummy like you.

LMAO.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   11:22:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: lucysmom (#93)

The above says more about you than it does about me.

LOL.

Yes it does... I'm going to provide for MY family- which deserves my support- and reject the demands of selfish, demanding old biddies, who think they are entitled to my money.

There's no fool, like an OLD fool.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   11:26:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Capitalist Eric, calcon (#100) (Edited)

I wouldn't know about gay snuff films

Chuckles...riiight...you just happened to have "another window" on your computer open at the time that had somehow been directed to a site with scantily clad teen boys firing weapons.

Pervert.

[snicker]

***PING*** to calcon to watch Erica squirm over outting himself as a lover of scantily clad teeanged boys.

I also never claimed to come up with the Rules of Disinformation.

No one accused you of that, Pervert. You're guilty of your own accusation of "disinformation". The issue is over from where you copied and pasted your alleged predictions, pervie.

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war  posted on  2011-06-22   11:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: war (#102)

Chuckles...riiight...

As you ping your butt-boy cal-CON to "back you up."

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   11:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: war, Capitalist Eric (#102)

The issue is over from where you copied and pasted your alleged predictions, pervie.

A couple of months ago CE said he didn't need to cut and paste because he had "internalized" economic information.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-22   11:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: mininggold (#99)

Pretty accurate metaphore for his god ...capitalism

Unfortunately his god requires more than sacrificial 'possums.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-22   12:00:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: lucysmom (#104) (Edited)

A couple of months ago CE said he didn't need to cut and paste because he had "internalized" economic information.

Link??? With EXACT quote, in complete context.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   12:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Capitalist Eric (#106)

Link??? With EXACT quote, I>in complete context.

Taking a page from your book - do your own homework. (at least I gave you credit)

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-22   12:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: lucysmom (#107)

As you and the rest of the socialist misfits fail to understand, just because you say something does NOT make it so.

You post unsubstantiated opinion, believing that you have now established a "fact" by virtue of you posting it.

Of course, it doesn't begin to pass the sniff-test, but you hope nobody will notice.

I don't need to defend myself from the likes of you. You're nothing but an old, bitter and stupid woman, who has nothing left in life, but to demand that someone care about her wasted life.

It would be pitiful, were it not for the fact that you suffer the consequences of the choices YOU made. You will never admit that, of course- you people NEVER take responsibility for your actions.

And that is the *real* pity- that you never learn.

Either way, though, it's NOT my problem.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   12:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: lucysmom (#107)

in complete context.

Taking a page from your book - do your own homework. (at least I gave you credit)

Too funny. He's demanding that you post reams and reams of his BS. But denies being arrogant.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-22   12:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Capitalist Eric, lucysmom, mininggold (#108) (Edited)

Get off of the fucking cross, Erica.

What you are accusing LM of doing here is what EVERYONE here sees YOU doing. You post the crap of someone else, most of which, over time, I have either refuted or questioned you over - questions you have refused to answer - and the resultant snit fit by you leads to you posting hilariously angry crap in response. Your vindictiveness stands in stark cotrast to the polite, levelheaded responses and questions that you get from LM.

IN other words, pervert, you really SUCK as a person.

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war  posted on  2011-06-22   13:11:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: war (#110) (Edited)

What you are accusing LM of doing here is what EVERYONE here sees YOU doing.

Straight out of Alinsky's playbook.

RULE #3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. ... One way of doing this is to accuse your enemy of what you are doing or going to do)

Knowing your script, it's funny to watch how you attempt to use it.

LMAO.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   13:37:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: mininggold (#109)

Too funny. He's demanding that you post reams and reams of his BS. But denies being arrogant.

No, you socialist whore, she's quoting me, and I'm demanding she post the link.

No link? NO QUOTE.

Is this concept too adult for you?

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   13:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Capitalist Eric (#111) (Edited)

Straight out of Alinsky's playbook.

Fuck off Pervert...this is tthe EXACT bullshit I'm "talking" about. You do the same bullshit 100 times more often then I may or anyone else may do.

Nowhere, btw, has there been a denial that you a) have gay, borderline, pedopheliac porn at your fingertips, b) that you pass off other peoples' work as your own and c) that you're simply an angry little gnat who finds empowerment in acting like an asshole to anonymos people on the internet.

And it's now too late to deny any of that you pentulant pissant of a plagerizing perv.

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
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--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-22   14:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: war (#113)

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

Please explain this tagline. I think you can PM me if you want to conserve your number of posts. A K A Balless might read it.

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Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-22   14:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: war (#113)

Fuck off Pervert...

Check-mate.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   14:26:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Capitalist Eric (#115) (Edited)

You know what they say about "men" who feel the need to use big graphics, pervert...

Nowhere, btw, has there been a denial that you a) have gay, borderline, pedopheliac porn at your fingertips, b) that you pass off other peoples' work as your own and c) that you're simply an angry little gnat who finds empowerment in acting like an asshole to anonymous people on the internet.

And it's now too late to deny any of that you pentulant pissant of a plagerizing perv.

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 8 comment(s) so far today.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-22   14:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Capitalist Eric (#112)

No, you socialist whore, she's quoting me, and I'm demanding she post the link.

No link? NO QUOTE.

Is this concept too adult for you?

So what is the definition of context, dummy?

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-22   15:19:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: war (#116)

And it's now too late to deny any of that you pentulant pissant of a plagerizing perv.

And that he's an attention whore.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-22   15:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: war (#116)

Of course, I know you know this, but you are arguing with a dimwitted asshole, ie Erica

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Whatcha lookin' at, butthead
Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Biff Tannen  posted on  2011-06-22   16:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: war (#116)

You know what they say about "men" who feel the need to use big graphics, pervert...

No, I wouldn't.

Nowhere, btw, has there been a denial that you a) have gay, borderline, pedopheliac porn at your fingertips, b) that you pass off other peoples' work as your own and c) that you're simply an angry little gnat who finds empowerment in acting like an asshole to anonymous people on the internet.

More of the same of Rules of Disinformation, eh?

#5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left- wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

#9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

#17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

#18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”.

So let's review your transparent tactics, using the rules of disinfo:

#5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule...? CHECK.

#9. Play Dumb...? CHECK, though I often get the feeling you're not the brightest star in the sky.

#17. Change the subject.... works especially well with companions who can “argue” with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues? CHECK. This, of course, is why you call in your butt-buddies... because the thread is getting away from you, and you need help to keep you from looking even MORE stupid than usual.

And it's now too late to deny any of that you pentulant
[SIC] pissant of a plagerizing [SIC] perv.

Awww, (((sniff))) Are you gonna' cry now? Before or after you spell-check? LMAO.

Please note: Due to your account status (Probationed), you may make 10 comments per day. You have made 8 comment(s) so far today.
As to being an asshole and a perv, that certainly explains why YOU are on probationary status, and I am not. It explains why people PISS on you, in any forum you're stupid enough to post on... And, inexplicably, you keep coming back for more... "Please sir, may I have another?

LMAO.

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   17:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Capitalist Eric (#108)

As you and the rest of the socialist misfits fail to understand, just because you say something does NOT make it so.

You post unsubstantiated opinion, believing that you have now established a "fact" by virtue of you posting it.

Of course, it doesn't begin to pass the sniff-test, but you hope nobody will notice.

How many unsubstantiated opinions can you spot in the following?

I don't need to defend myself from the likes of you. You're nothing but an old, bitter and stupid woman, who has nothing left in life, but to demand that someone care about her wasted life.

It would be pitiful, were it not for the fact that you suffer the consequences of the choices YOU made. You will never admit that, of course- you people NEVER take responsibility for your actions.

And that is the *real* pity- that you never learn.

Some communication experts refer to stuff like the above as "fluff".

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-22   19:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: mininggold (#109)

He's demanding that you post reams and reams of his BS.

He seems to think he has the truth and the light.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-22   19:41:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Fred Mertz (#114)

might read it.

Bye bye.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-22   20:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz, Pinguinite (#123)

This "issue" of a Pinguinite forum manager capable of reading emails from other posters is total BS.

I know it for a fact. Neil wouldn't permit a compromise like that once the Private email feature is enabled by the forum manager (Goldie is the only manager that doesn't permit it) still, Stone: are you out of your fucking mind to purge posters because of a mere rumour?

You should (at the very least) suggest that you are not the bad guy reading PM, perhaps on another thread. Yet, you categorically prove the point of being a tyrant by not discussing the issue in the first place.

This thread is for and about you. Great post on your part.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-22   20:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: lucysmom (#121)

Some communication experts refer to stuff like the above as "fluff".

Then you've never MET any communications experts.

It's called "observation.". You post enough information about yourself, that you make it *easy.*

;^)

Bye, rat-boy mike. We'll miss you. [NOT]

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-22   21:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Capitalist Eric, war (#103) (Edited)

As you ping your butt-boy cal-CON to "back you up."

looks like little "erica was hacked" just like his butt buddy yukon,

hell, the little pussy has been hiding from me on a couple of forums, big mouth but no balls(not counting the ones usually resting on his chin).

calcon  posted on  2011-06-22   22:20:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Capitalist Eric, lucysmom, mininggold (#125)

ome communication experts refer to stuff like the above as "fluff".

excuse me ladies but erica is an expert on "fluff", he's been a FLUFFer for gay porn movies for a couple of years. When he was homeless in riverside, that's the only work he could find.

he's about ready to start crying and bozo you, that's his mo when he starts getting his butt kicked.

calcon  posted on  2011-06-22   22:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Capitalist Eric (#125)

Then you've never MET any communications experts.

OK now we know there is something else you don't know as much about as you think.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-22   23:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Capitalist Eric (#120)

No, I wouldn't.

Those overcompensating rarely do.

Awww, (((sniff))) Are you gonna' cry now? Before or after you spell-check? LMAO.

I can always blame the spell check. You can only blame genetics.

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"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
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war  posted on  2011-06-23   7:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: A K A Stone (#123) (Edited)

That's not a denial.

In fact, that's the act of someone who's guilty.

Hilarious...since it's now very obvious that you access people's acounts - proving which is why I put on bozo, btw, you had absolutely no other way of knowing - now everyone knows that Yukon WAS NOT hacked...so what was the big deal in confessing that, Stone?

But it's no where near hilarious as the fact that you can't take the heat of your own kitchen.

Bye bye.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

I lurk to see if someone other than Myst or Pookie posts anything...

war  posted on  2011-06-23   7:59:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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