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What are the pros and cons on this guy? Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 62. #1. To: A K A Stone (#0) Rick Perry IMHO Perry is a big-government style republican - a big spender who raised taxes. He's a self described "social conservative" which puts him out of touch with most Americans...... SSDD Jameson  posted on  2011-06-19   6:46:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #6. To: Jameson (#1) He's a self described "social conservative" Most Americans agree with the conservative social issues. Nearly all normal people, you know the ones who know right and wrong. Don't support normaphobes pretending they are married. They also don't support killing babies. Sure there are some real sickos who support those positions, but they are the minority. You must live in California, land of the morally confused. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   9:55:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #21. To: A K A Stone (#6) Most Americans agree with the conservative social issues. Maybe you're right...... Please help me to understand your perspecitve - "Social Conservative" positions - 1.Anti-abortion.....still legal since 1973. If this were really a mainstream issue, R v. W would have been overturned decades ago. 2. Anti-gay rights.....yeah - all Americans are equal - but straight Americans are more equal....So if you're gay - you cannot enter into a variety of contracts.....including partnerships - Is this really important to MOST Americans? Be serious... 3. Anti-medical research - Like stem cells....c'mon seriously? MOST Americans want MORE medical research - No ONE wants to die of a curable disease! 4. Anti-immigration - a lot of Americans want a secure border, and a sensible approach to those here illegally. - Except politicians - Claiming to be a "social conservative" and "against illegal immigration" is pointless as Reagan showed us.... 5. Welfare reform - what? like medicare???? right - 6.Lifting the ban on school prayer..... - ok, less than one percent of Americans even know that there is some sort of "ban" on public prayer in school - fewer than that care. These are my perspectives - if you can refute them please do - I'd love to see some hard facts that suggest otherwise - Until then - I will hold firm on my position that "the social conservative agenda" is not a position that will win a national election, because most Americans are far more interested in Jobs, keeping their home, paying their bills and taking care of their families. Jameson  posted on  2011-06-19   16:50:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Jameson (#21) Until then - I will hold firm on my position that "the social conservative agenda" is not a position that will win a national election, because most Americans are far more interested in Jobs, keeping their home, paying their bills and taking care of their families. Those are all important issues. But just because we want jobs and a good economy is no reason to be a nation of child murderers. Why do you lefties have such a calice disregard for life? A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:37:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #49. To: A K A Stone (#29) But just because we want jobs and a good economy is no reason to be a nation of child murderers. Why do you lefties have such a calice disregard for life? After half a dozen remarks - you still have failed to grasp a very elementary concept - the "social conservative agenda" is an extreme minority position and will never produce a true national leader (president) because the "independent" "moderate" majority - which provide the deciding votes in every election - have no use for them. As always - in my humble opinion only - I encourage you to prove otherwise. Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:43:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #51. To: Jameson (#49) Two words. Ronald Reagan. Another comment. Whenever Republicans nominate a conservative they win. When they nominate RINO pieces of shit they lose. McCain comes to mind. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:45:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #60. To: A K A Stone (#51) Whenever Republicans nominate a conservative they win. When they nominate RINO pieces of shit they lose. McCain comes to mind. Bush won twice. Have you forgotten that? BTW, I forgot one more thing about Perry - he oversaw the execution of an innocent man then tried to cover it up. Cameron Todd Willingham. So if you believe in the sanctity of life, then he's not your guy. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann go65  posted on  2011-06-20   23:00:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: go65 (#60) Neither you or I know his guilt or innocense. But here is a different perspective than yours. Do you watch Maddow? http://rickvskay.blogspot.com/2009/10/cameron-todd-willingham-was-guilty-as.html Cameron Todd Willingham was guilty as sin... While Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow are proclaiming the innocence of this scumbag to hurt Rick politically, the local Corsicana paper has been doing yeoman's work on this story and is making those media activists look really stupid (link). Excerpt follows... The undeniable facts of the Cameron Todd Willingham case are these: • On Dec. 23, 1991, 2-year-old Amber Louise Kuykendall, and 1-year-old twins Karmon Diane Willingham and Kameron Marie Willingham died in a mid-morning house fire at 1213 W. 11th Ave. in Corsicana. • Willingham, 23, the children’s father, and the only adult home at the time of the fire, was found guilty of murder and sentenced to death on Aug. 21, 1992. • After five appeals and 12 years on death row, he was put to death by lethal injection on Feb. 17, 2004. Everything else is controversial. Unfortunately their megaphone is tiny, and Cooper and Maddow reach millions of people with their criminally biased reporting... the more I read about this case the more I am convinced this whole controversy is an attempt to end the death penalty, and the actual facts shouldn't get in the way... The Dallas/Ft. Worth Fox station actually went to Corsicana and did some on the ground reporting... watching this, Willingham was one bad guy who got due process... even the new forensic investigatory tools don't point to innocence or that the fire was set accidentally, the new reports only point to inconclusive evidence on one small part of the case. Willingham's last words were not "I am an innocent man." They were "I hope you rot in hell, bitch," directed toward his wife whom he had beaten many times even while she was pregnant to try to cause a miscarriage... this guy was guilty and had several appeals at the state and federal levels. Here is the video (link)... Story link: MyFoxDFW.com You won't see anything like that on CNN or MSNBC. They have made up their minds, and it is not even about Willingham anymore it is about Rick and the death penalty more broadly. A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   23:14:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 62. #66. To: A K A Stone (#62) Willingham's last words were not "I am an innocent man." They were "I hope you rot in hell, bitch," directed toward his wife whom he had beaten many times even while she was pregnant to try to cause a miscarriage... Not quite, here's the official transcript of his last words: Yeah. The only statement I want to make is that I am an innocent man -- convicted of a crime I did not commit. I have been persecuted for 12 years for something I did not do. From God's dust I came and to dust I will return -- so the earth shall become my throne. I gotta go, road dog. I love you Gabby. I hope you rot in hell, bitch; I hope you fucking rot in hell, bitch. You bitch; I hope you fucking rot, cunt. That is it. Also: "Willingham’s wife insisted during the trial and under interrogation that Willingham had not physically abused the children" There was enough doubt that this guy shouldn't have been executed, and Perry has never offered a clear explanation as to why he replaced members of the commission investigating the case. Again, if you believe in the sanctity of human life, you can't support Perry. go65  posted on  2011-06-21 07:56:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 62. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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