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Title: Tell me what you know about Rick Perry
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Published: Jun 19, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-06-19 00:29:10 by A K A Stone
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I haven't followed the guy to closely. What are the pros and cons on this guy?

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#13. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

He had a great speech yesterday at the Republican Leadership Conference.

The knock on Perry for the first few years he was governor is that he was more of a politician than someone interested in governing. But over the last couple of years, that has changed pretty dramatically.

Texas balanced it's budget by cutting spending. They don't have a state income tax. They have effectively handcuffed the trial lawyers with loser pays legislation. They have created about 40% of the new jobs in American over the last couple of years. Texas became the country's #1 exporter under Perry. Companies are flocking to Texas -- they are home to more Fortune 1000 companies than any other state.

There is a record of success in Texas that's hard to argue with.

If you look at the polls, Pawelnty, Cain, and Bachman together have more support than Romney. I don't think that anyone of them is capable of consolidating the conservative vote against Romney.

If Perry gets into the race, he could win the Iowa caucus, win in South Carolina, and become the conservative alternative to Romney.

If conservatives don't coalesce around one candidate, RINO Romney will be the nominee.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-19   10:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war, A K A Stone (#11)

Perry is going to have either an Ensign or a Vitter or, worse, an Edwards problem..

You heard it hear first.

He is as greasy as they come, but he isn't suicidal. His wife has the money.

Wishful thinking on your part doesn't make his chances less. He is not bright, but he isn't stupid, either.

harrowup  posted on  2011-06-19   10:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#12)

You heard it hear first.

hear?

He's only a spelling Nazi for others. Those rules don't apply to him.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-06-19   11:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone, *Ron Paul for President* (#0)

NAFTA super highway/trans Texas corridor, open borders amnesty reconquista, neocon warmonger, job outsourcing globalist traitor, bankster bailouts. He's got it all.

He's Bush + Obama, with good hair.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-19   12:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jwpegler (#13) (Edited)

Texas balanced it's budget by cutting spending. They don't have a state income tax. They have effectively handcuffed the trial lawyers with loser pays legislation. They have created about 40% of the new jobs in American over the last couple of years. Texas became the country's #1 exporter under Perry. Companies are flocking to Texas -- they are home to more Fortune 1000 companies than any other state.

That's like saying Saudi Arabia is the biggest exporter in the world. But Texas has one of the highest property tax rates in the nation.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-19   12:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: jwpegler (#13)

Texas balanced it's budget by cutting spending.

There must be a conservative rule for this:

Texas lawmakers in 2009 were short $6.6 billion in revenue for 2010-11 and relied heavily on stimulus funds for a solution.

We did our own budget research, finding that lawmakers agreed to spend $80.6 billion in state general revenue on basic expenses over the two-year period, according to a report by the Legislative Budget Board, which advises lawmakers on budgetary matters.

However, the stimulus aid let legislators put an additional $6.4 billion toward programs, primarily Medicaid and education, historically financed with general revenue, according to a July 2009 House Research Organization report. Another $5.7 billion in stimulus money went to programs such as highway and bridge construction, child care development programs and weatherization assistance.

Counting all funding sources, including the $12.1 billion in stimulus aid, the 2010-11 state budget totaled $182 billion.

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Back to the stimulus: On Feb. 18, 2009, the same day Perry accepted the federal funds, the governor slammed the legislation as being "full of pork and special interest handouts." On his campaign website, Perry wrote: "The Democrats think this bill will change our country's financial fortunes, but you and I know better. … This administration is saddling future generations with an increasingly unbearable debt." He then urged readers to sign an online petition telling "Washington" that they are "fed up with bailouts."

www.politifact.com/texas/...erry-used-stimulus-fund-/

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-19   13:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rudgear (#15)

He's only a spelling Nazi for others. Those rules don't apply to him.

The warped dwarf has been very cranky since his divorce.

harrowup  posted on  2011-06-19   13:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Tell me what you know about Rick Perry

Obviously he'd be a better choice for President than the messiah "king" obammy, or ANY other demonRAT libTURD for that matter.

He's not my first pick but he'd do.

The libTURDS are going to have to try to slime all the repukelican'ts, because the demonRATS totally OWN the FAILURE which engulfs this nation right now.

When you are President, you don't get to vote "present".

THIS moron messiah "king" obammy has spent MORE borrowed money in his first two years in office than ALL of the presidents spent in ALL of foregoing AMERICAN history including ALL previous American WARS.

THIS moron messiah "king" obammy has IGNORED ALL US LAW over and over and over ...

THIS moron messiah "king" obammy has un-constitutionally taken over the auto and health industries, while ignoring LAW and screwing the share holders of these industries, not to mention his attempt by the Chicago way to FORCE an individual mandate on each and every American.

So the feral gooberment would OWN our f ing bodies, politically outright.

Yeah, the filthy simpering libTURD tools/fools/whores, DO NOT want to talk about PROVEN AND DOCUMENTED RECORDS OF RESULTS.

These arrogant and insane libTURD whores, are TRYING to tell the people that what they pay every time that they fill up or get food, ISN'T going through the roof, FAST!

LOL!

That's exactly why the libTURDS froth at the mouth about guys like Perry.

They CAN'T compare records and win.

So they default to the excrement tossing monkeys that they really are.

Plus it's always worked for them before, because it appeals to a certain sub set of human behavior.

WE can win the fight against these libTURD bastids by out Alinsky-ing them.

To be blunt, we CONSTITUTIONAL conservatives, and all others who actually believe in the ideas of traditional America, must take their libTURD rhetorical "dogs" and "beat" them down al la Alinsky, WITH those same "dogs".

SHAME these bastids with what they support.

There is no other way.

Face to face.

Support ALL who fight the libTURD powers that be of course.

But, I suggest that we support, the most, whoever the establishment libTURDS have hated the most, the longest, that's declared running.

Of course, the most CONSTITUTIONALLY conservative folks would be best in general.

We didn't get here in one election cycle, and we aren't going to get out of it in one either.

Although I still like Herman Cain's story, if it's true.

BUT honestly ...

People get a grip, they are ALL politicians.

You don't get honey from a stone.

EVER.

.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-19   16:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Most Americans agree with the conservative social issues.

Maybe you're right......

Please help me to understand your perspecitve -

"Social Conservative" positions -

1.Anti-abortion.....still legal since 1973. If this were really a mainstream issue, R v. W would have been overturned decades ago.

2. Anti-gay rights.....yeah - all Americans are equal - but straight Americans are more equal....So if you're gay - you cannot enter into a variety of contracts.....including partnerships - Is this really important to MOST Americans? Be serious...

3. Anti-medical research - Like stem cells....c'mon seriously? MOST Americans want MORE medical research - No ONE wants to die of a curable disease!

4. Anti-immigration - a lot of Americans want a secure border, and a sensible approach to those here illegally. - Except politicians - Claiming to be a "social conservative" and "against illegal immigration" is pointless as Reagan showed us....

5. Welfare reform - what? like medicare???? right -

6.Lifting the ban on school prayer..... - ok, less than one percent of Americans even know that there is some sort of "ban" on public prayer in school - fewer than that care.

These are my perspectives - if you can refute them please do - I'd love to see some hard facts that suggest otherwise -

Until then - I will hold firm on my position that "the social conservative agenda" is not a position that will win a national election, because most Americans are far more interested in Jobs, keeping their home, paying their bills and taking care of their families.

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-19   16:50:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Great Rick Perry speech. If he enters the race, he's probably the guy to beat RINO Romney.

Perry / Bachmann????? Mabye....


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-19   21:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jameson (#21)

1.Anti-abortion.....still legal since 1973. If this were really a mainstream issue, R v. W would have been overturned decades ago.

Since when does the government do what the people want? If they did what we wanted we never would have had bozo care or NAFTA etc.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:26:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Jameson (#21)

2. Anti-gay rights.....yeah - all Americans are equal - but straight Americans are more equal....So if you're gay - you cannot enter into a variety of contracts.....including partnerships - Is this really important to MOST Americans? Be serious...

First off you use the terms straight and gay. The correct terms are normal and perverted people.

There is no such thing as two dudes being married. Or two women being married. That is the position of a deginerate asshole.

Any man can marry any woman and any woman can marry any man. There is no discrimination against faggots in this country. The discrimination is against normal people who know right from wrong. If this is your position then you don't have a fucking clue and probably never will.

Like I said you are probably from California.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Jameson (#21)

3. Anti-medical research - Like stem cells....c'mon seriously? MOST Americans want MORE medical research - No ONE wants to die of a curable disease!

Murdering people to research on them is kind of Nazi like sick. Does your sympathies lie with nazi thinking?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jameson (#21)

4. Anti-immigration - a lot of Americans want a secure border, and a sensible approach to those here illegally. - Except politicians - Claiming to be a "social conservative" and "against illegal immigration" is pointless as Reagan showed us....

Reagan wasn't perfect. You should learn from his mistake. Why do you want foreigners to come here and take American jobs? Are you a wetback or something?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jameson (#21)

5. Welfare reform - what? like medicare???? right -

That statement is utterly useless. It has no meaning.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jameson (#21)

6.Lifting the ban on school prayer..... - ok, less than one percent of Americans even know that there is some sort of "ban" on public prayer in school - fewer than that care.

Do you know the definition of the word "no"? Apparently not.

You acknowledge that there is a "ban" on school prayer. Well how can that be legitimate when the constitution very clearly says the government shall MAKE NO LAW...

No Law has a meaning. What grade did you complete in school? If you actually graduated high school it would be surprising considering these comments you are making.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jameson (#21)

Until then - I will hold firm on my position that "the social conservative agenda" is not a position that will win a national election, because most Americans are far more interested in Jobs, keeping their home, paying their bills and taking care of their families.

Those are all important issues.

But just because we want jobs and a good economy is no reason to be a nation of child murderers.

Why do you lefties have such a calice disregard for life?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:37:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: A K A Stone (#29)

Why do you lefties have such a calice disregard for life?

Why does your concern for human life end when it exits the womb?

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-19   21:47:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: lucysmom (#30)

Why does your concern for human life end when it exits the womb?

It doesn't. I'm not the one putting debt shackles on the people not even born yet. That would be your side that is doing that.

I agree with Thomas Jefferson that the earth belongs to the living and these children don't owe a penny to the government for the debt of dead people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   21:50:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: A K A Stone (#31)

It doesn't.

You would rather see them die for lack of medical care.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-19   22:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#32)

You're a nutjob. Your side cuts babies into little pieces and puts them in red plastic garbage backs. Real sicko stuff.

What you said is insane and offensive.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   22:25:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: jwpegler (#22)

I watched the first 5 min. He is charismatic.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-19   22:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#33)

What you said is insane and offensive.

That's a pretty accurate description of your post to me.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-19   22:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#23)

If they did what we wanted we never would have had bozo care or NAFTA etc.

Perhaps - or maybe there are more Americans who have other priorities.....

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   20:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: A K A Stone (#24)

First off you use the terms straight and gay. The correct terms are normal and perverted people.

ok, so you obviously fear or hate those whom you feel are "perverted" - but - if we can focus on my original premise - that as a political position - MOST Americans really don't care whether someone is gay or not - we could have a more productive discussion......

If you have any documentation that could prove otherwise - please share it - but your individual loathing (self loathing??) of the gay lifestyle is NOT a compelling argument that the socially conservative agenda is a winning position.

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#25)

Does your sympathies lie with nazi thinking?

In one sentence, you demonstrate your narrow-minded ignorance and your failure to grasp 4th grade grammar...awesome!

Stem Cell research is something that the vast majority or Americans - and for that matter all humans - should be in favor of - to fight disease -

Personally I am 100% Pro-Life - but from a voter's perspective - opposing stem cell research is a losing position.

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jameson (#37)

ok, so you obviously fear or hate those whom you feel are "perverted" - but - if we can focus on my original premise - that as a political position - MOST Americans really don't care whether someone is gay or not - we could have a more productive discussion......

I don't really care if someone is a queer or not.

But they shouldn't get special treatment like the weirdos want. They will never be married. That isn't the definition of marriage. They also need to stop trying to push their perverted thinking on schools and school children.

In short they need to get the fuck back in the closet and quit talking about their perverted lifestyle.

Pervert has a meaning by the way.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#26)

Why do you want foreigners to come here and take American jobs?

I don't.......

why to you stupidly assume otherwise?

the "anti-immigrant" position is nothing more than a rallying cry for the tiny minority of Americans who feel threatened by those who yearn to be free and seek the American dream......

Do you really think the anti-immigrant position is held by the majority of Americans? please cite your source if so....

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jameson (#38)

Stem Cell research is something that the vast majority or Americans - and for that matter all humans - should be in favor of - to fight disease -

Personally I am 100% Pro-Life - but from a voter's perspective - opposing stem cell research is a losing position.

Taking stem cells from aborted babies is a sick practice. It is immoral and should be illegal.

If the unlawfulness of abortion was enforced and god forbid a baby in the womb died. If those parents wanted to donate the remains for research. Then that would be alright in my view.

But now killing babies for parts. That is gross and evil.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jameson (#40)

I don't.......

why to you stupidly assume otherwise?

the "anti-immigrant" position is nothing more than a rallying cry for the tiny minority of Americans who feel threatened by those who yearn to be free and seek the American dream......

Do you really think the anti-immigrant position is held by the majority of Americans? please cite your source if so....

Most people in this country oppose illegal immigration. I also oppose all immigration for a period of time until they assimilate and we get our house in order.

People from other nations don't have an inherit right to come to this country.

By the way nice to meet you and discuss issues with you.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#27)

That statement is utterly useless. It has no meaning.

So - you don't understand that medicare is welfare? Are you serious?

Tax dollars, taken from working Americans to pay for the health care expenses of those who do not work.......

kinda sounds like welfare - doesn't it?

and because we're not going to get off topic - MOST Americans do not want medicare changed....

so "welfare reform" is not a main stream issue.....is it?

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:28:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jameson (#43)

So - you don't understand that medicare is welfare? Are you serious?

That isn't what your statement said.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:32:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jameson (#43)

so "welfare reform" is not a main stream issue.....is it?

Guess it depends on which type of welfare you are talking about.

But here is a bigger question. Is it right to force people to pay for someone elses healthcare regardless if it is popular or not.

We elect leaders to do the right thing not to stick their finger in the wind.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: A K A Stone (#28)

Do you know the definition of the word "no"? Apparently not.

Heh heh heh - c'mon give the "drama queen" act a rest.

Prayer in school is NOT an issue that wins elections, and you know it.

Those of us who feel otherwise have taken the initiative to send our children to schools beyond the public system.

You get that right? Take responsibility? sure you do.

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Jameson (#40)

Do you really think the anti-immigrant position is held by the majority of Americans?

AFAIK there are damn few who are anti-immigrant. But you're not talking a about immigrants are you? You mean illegal aliens, invaders of our sovereign nation.

Most Americans are against being invaded and taken over by Mexico, or any other country. The vast majority of Americans want our laws enforced, including deporting illegal invaders. You have a problem with rule of law?

If any foreign national wants to come to the US and become a citizen, they need to get on the path to citizenship at their local US embassy.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-20   21:36:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Jameson (#46)

Those of us who feel otherwise have taken the initiative to send our children to schools beyond the public system.

You get that right? Take responsibility? sure you do.

My kids go to private school.

But it is still a right to pray anywhere you want to. No on has a right to tell a kid or a teacher not to pray.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: A K A Stone (#29)

But just because we want jobs and a good economy is no reason to be a nation of child murderers.

Why do you lefties have such a calice disregard for life?

After half a dozen remarks - you still have failed to grasp a very elementary concept - the "social conservative agenda" is an extreme minority position and will never produce a true national leader (president) because the "independent" "moderate" majority - which provide the deciding votes in every election - have no use for them.

As always - in my humble opinion only - I encourage you to prove otherwise.

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#41)

If those parents wanted to donate the remains for research. Then that would be alright in my view.

Ok, so we agree stem cell research is a great thing! wonderful - see progress!

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Jameson (#49)

Two words. Ronald Reagan.

Another comment.

Whenever Republicans nominate a conservative they win. When they nominate RINO pieces of shit they lose. McCain comes to mind.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:45:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jameson (#50)

I have read that adult stem cell technology is more promising.

There should be no baby stem cell research until abortion is ended.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-20   21:46:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: A K A Stone (#42)

I also oppose all immigration for a period of time until they assimilate and we get our house in order.

A fair position - I won't argue against it -

but here's the point - any candidate that runs a campaign based on "putting an end to illegal immigrants" will attract an insignificant number of votes from the rural areas of the poorest states....and not much more.....

not a winning position - Reagan granted amnesty to millions of illegals....and is still considered by the socially conservative minority to be a demi-god.....

Jameson  posted on  2011-06-20   21:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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