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Title: The Failure of Obama’s Stimulus: Kenyanomics is the final nail in the coffin of Keynesian economic theories.
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URL Source: http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/ ... -stimulus-keynesian-economics/
Published: Jun 17, 2011
Author: scottystarnes
Post Date: 2011-06-17 11:46:22 by no gnu taxes
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Obamanomics is the final nail in the coffin of Keynesian economic theories.

From Investors.com:

You have to wonder who’s advising Democrats these days. With the economy stuck in a two-year, Obama-dug rut, their only new economic growth idea is to raise taxes and hike federal spending.

According to The Hill, Democrats are so frustrated with President Obama’s “passivity on the economy” that they’re actively working on a fresh stimulus package that would include significant new spending on roads and other infrastructure, paid for by closing various tax loopholes.

Didn’t their first stimulus include infrastructure spending? Remember Obama’s stimulus at work road signs?

Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, told the publication that “the last election was about jobs and the economy, and now we’re in a position where we really do need some economic pump-priming by the federal government.”

The Democrats have pumped a lot. The Federal Reserve is looking at a third round of quantitative easing…a.k.a…printing money out of thin air to buy Obama’s debt.

Has Harkin been asleep for the past two years? Doesn’t he remember that Democrats already pushed through $830 billion worth of “pump priming”? And that this was supposed to stimulate growth and hold unemployment under 8%?

Instead, quarterly GDP growth has averaged an anemic 2.8% since the recession officially ended two years ago, and unemployment has been at or above 9% for all but two of the past 24 months.

…and Democrats think this is a recovering economy.

Indeed, few ideas have been so thoroughly discredited as the one that says more government spending will increase jobs. As the chart above shows, government outlays climbed more than 40% between 2006 and 2011. At the same time, the employment figure has dropped by almost 5 million.

That is Keynesian economics. The government spends our money in the hopes of creating jobs. It failed then and it’s failing now.

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#6. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

The final nail was driven into the coffin of Keynesian economic theories in the 1970s when we had hyperinflation at the same time we had a recession. Keynesian theories (specifically the Philips curve) said that this was impossible.

Unfortunately, the Keynesian Zombies just wouldn't stay dead. This time we have to shoot them in the head.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-17   12:16:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

The final nail was driven into the coffin of Keynesian economic theories in the 1970s when we had hyperinflation at the same time we had a recession. Keynesian theories (specifically the Philips curve) said that this was impossible.

I guess you were too young to experience those Nixon/Ford even/odd fill up day gas lines.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-17   12:21:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mininggold (#7) (Edited)

I guess you were too young to experience those Nixon/Ford even/odd fill up day gas lines.

I was 12 and working in my father's gas station at the time.

Nixon was a Keynesian who took us off the gold standard and imposed wage and price controls.

Wage and price controls is why we had those long gas lines.

Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Obama -- all the same on economics. The two Bushes as well.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-17   12:32:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: jwpegler (#9) (Edited)

Wage and price controls is why we had those long gas lines.

Boy are you wrong.

Two Arab oil embargoes - one overt embargo and one de facto by limiting production - are why we had long gas lines during Nixon/Ford. Both of these occurred AFTER price controls were lifted...one occurred as a result of the Yom Kippur War and the other because of the decline in the dollar.

war  posted on  2011-06-17   12:52:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#12) (Edited)

Both of these occurred AFTER price controls were lifted

Wrong again bozo.

The Arab Oil Embargo started in Oct 73. Nixon didn't completely lift his wage and price controls until April 74.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-17   13:49:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jwpegler (#15) (Edited)

Nope. NOt wrong.

Oil had a two tiered price market...price on oil produced prior prior to the end of 1972 was limited to the March 1973 price +35 cents and anything produced AFTER the start of 1973 or from a new well that came into existence from 1972 on was uncontrolled.

The controls didn't matter anyway, oil producers simply changed the "born on date" of their barrels.

war  posted on  2011-06-17   14:07:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war, jwpegler (#17)

Oil had a two tiered price market...price on oil produced prior prior to the end of 1972 was limited to the March 1973 price +35 cents and anything produced AFTER 1973 or from a new well that came into existence from 1972 on was uncontrolled.

The controls didn't matter anyway, oil producers simply changed the "born on date" of their barrels.

Jwpegler again underestimates the ability of the oil industry to get around regs they themselves lobbied for.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-17   14:13:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mininggold (#19) (Edited)

BTW, Iran, which was supposed to be our ally and a nation to which, despite its own riches, we propped up with agriculture credits and subsidies, went along with the embargo. Nixon should have taken them to task over it. At the time, Iran could have alleviated the shortfall.

war  posted on  2011-06-17   14:20:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: war, mininggold (#21)

BTW, Iran, which was supposed to be our ally and a nation to which, despite its own riches, we propped up with agriculture credits and subsidies, went along with the embargo. Nixon should have taken them to task over it. At the time, Iran could have alleviated the shortfall.

The Texas oilichrats that run the Middle East business did not want to end the oil embargo. Money was just too good.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-17   14:56:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Godwinson (#24)

They had it good both ways...they held :old" oil off the market and made more money off "new" oil. Of course, all they did was rebarrel the "old" oil.

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