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Title: Viewpoints: Racist cartoon of Obama forces me to leave GOP
Source: sacbee.com
URL Source: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/06/12/36 ... t-cartoon-of-obama-forces.html
Published: Jun 17, 2011
Author: Ken Barnes
Post Date: 2011-06-17 06:28:23 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 44032
Comments: 88

I was one of those rare species: a black Republican, the guy willing to spit into the wind of conventional thought, who was often showcased on camera at party events to prove inclusiveness.

But as a proud black man, I can no longer be a member of the Republican Party.

Being a Republican has long been a part of my personal and professional identities, so leaving the party is a difficult and emotional decision.

In 1998, as a young man searching for what I believed were shared values, I cut ties with the Democratic Party and became a Republican. Democrats, in my view, had become unwelcoming to those holding center-right views not in lockstep with the party, and it was my belief that through hard work, the Republican Party could be utilized as a vehicle for improving our community.

For the next 13 years, I dedicated myself to growing the conservative base of the Republican Party, and in the process bound myself in emotion and deed.

During that time, I worked on behalf of Republican candidates at all levels, from presidential and gubernatorial campaigns, on down to local elections.

I have had the pleasure of serving as president of the Sacramento Republican Assembly, a term as a member of the California Republican Party executive committee, and most recently as treasurer of the Sacramento County Republican Party.

Last year alone, I donated more than 400 hours of my time to the Republican Party and made financial contributions to a number of Republican candidates.

As of late, however, when I look at myself in the mirror there is one question which perplexes me: Can I, in good conscience, remain affiliated with an organization whose message purveyors of racism and bigotry find attractive?

Generally speaking, Republicans are decent people, and naturally, many of my closest friends vote Republican. As with any large organization or group, there will always be people at the fringes who hold views that are not representative of the body.

An organization cannot control the behavior of each individual actor, but it can control its response to abhorrent conduct.

The latest incident in a string of tawdry, race-based actions was the promotion of a racist cartoon by elected Orange County Republican Party Central Committee member Marilyn Davenport. The cartoon depicted President Barack Obama and his parents as chimpanzees, while simultaneously implying that the president is not a legitimate American, but rather an African-born interloper.

While the Orange County GOP chairman and a number of other committee members were quick to condemn the image and Davenport, what's disturbing is the incredible number of people who continue to defend Davenport's actions as well as the cartoon itself.

Had this been an isolated event, it could be set aside as a mere aberration. However, when placed in the context of similar offenses by the same self-identified tea party-conservative Republicans, there emerges a disturbing pattern of extreme intolerance.

Over the past two years, we have seen Republicans use long-held racist imagery in portrayals of Obama. The president has been depicted as a communist witch doctor, a man inclined to plant watermelons on the White House lawn, and we watched in disbelief as his face was placed on an "Obama Buck Food Stamp" along with stereotyped pictures of fried chicken, barbecue ribs, Kool-Aid and the obligatory watermelon.

What does any of this have to do with public policy or conservative values? Here is a man who excelled academically at the finest schools in the world, has a wonderful in-tact family, worked hard and rose to become president of the United States. Yet in spite of his accomplishments, the president is still labeled an illegitimate, socialist, African witch doctor and has his face superimposed on a chimpanzee.

If this can be done to a black man who is the leader of the free world, how long will it be before fellow Republicans insert my face on a chimpanzee?

These behaviors also raise larger issues for African Americans and other minority groups within the GOP. How can I look my parents in the eye and tell them I'm a Republican in spite of these offenses? If he were still living, could my Latino father-in-law be proud that his daughter supports the GOP, in spite of the constant anti-Latino rhetoric that comes from the party? Can gay family members reconcile my support of a party that seeks to strip them of their basic human rights?

These are not issues which pit moderate against conservative views, but rather consequential matters which transcend political positioning and speak to universal human values.

There are a number of Republicans (and Democrats) who will view my switch to "decline to state" as a net gain for the Democratic Party. However, I reject the theory of zero-sum politics which claim we live in a binary world of Democrats and Republicans, where a lack of support for one side works only to empower the other.

Having now been active in both major political parties, I've discovered the common prohibited activity is critical thinking.

President Ronald Reagan once famously said, "I did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me," and I can now say that I have been abandoned by both Democrats and Republicans.

In order to stay true to myself, my family and values, the only rational, responsible option is independence.

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#48. To: Godwinson (#10)

sneakypete, and his racist pals are upset they are called racist.

I don't know about my "pals",but *I* don't give a damn what idiots like you call me. You don't have enough common sense to pour piss out of a boot,so what makes you "think" (?) I will allow you to define me?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-17   23:30:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: lucysmom (#14)

I thought ...

No,you didn't. You are as likely to think as you are to fly cross-country on your unicorn.

how did you come to have such complete knowledge of his work habits?

I'm not stupid.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-17   23:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Godwinson (#21)

Yea, Pete was off on a tear a while ago about a black woman retired from the military being buried in Arlington Cemetary.

Really? Then you should be able to quote me and produce a link.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-17   23:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Ferret Mike, Godwinson (#39) (Edited)

Whhat makes you think sneakypete is Caucasian,

This is Godwinson we are talking about. If he ever had an actual thought it would die from loneliness.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-17   23:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: sneakypete (#49)

I'm not stupid.

I didn't say you were stupid, just lacking information.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-18   0:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: sneakypete (#51)

I'm sure if Jeb Clampett was here he'd say, "I've got to have a long talk with that boy."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-18   1:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: sneakypete (#49)

I'm not stupid.

That's debatable.

meguro  posted on  2011-06-18   6:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

If this can be done to a white man who is the leader of the free world, how long will it be before fellow Democrats insert my face on a chimpanzee?

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-18   8:44:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: lucysmom (#15)

Lucy you are such a fool. The demoncrats are enslaving us with debt and regulations. They are also the pro baby murder party. It is in their platform. Anyone who calls themselves a democrat is a self identified sicko.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   10:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: war (#3)

Republicans, as a group, have far more self-control issues then democrats.

Democrats are the party of immorality. They can't control themselves to they murder little precious babies.

Why do you think blacks are so good at basketball and sports? Most of them got an early start moving around and dodging coat hangers in the womb.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   10:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: A K A Stone (#56)

The demoncrats are enslaving us with debt and regulations.

Regulation follows abuse just as bailouts follow deregulation.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-18   12:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: lucysmom (#58)

So much for freedom and self determination huh. We have to be part of the collective. I say screw the collective, i'm an individual. I will continue to do what I want regardless of any man made law.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   12:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: A K A Stone (#59)

We have to be part of the collective. I say screw the collective, i'm an individual. I will continue to do what I want regardless of any man made law.

You certainly don't mind reaping the benefits "the collective" provides. Why in the world do you think human beings have always lived together in groups?

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-18   12:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: lucysmom (#60)

Why in the world do you think human beings have always lived together in groups?

Because men like sex.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   12:43:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: CZ82 (#42)

Does the word "group" need to be defined for you?

It's the opposite of Anthony Weiner.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-18   13:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ferret Mike (#53)

I'm sure if Jeb Clampett was here he'd say, "I've got to have a long talk with that boy."

LOL!

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-18   14:07:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: war (#62)

Does the word "group" need to be defined for you?

It's the opposite of Anthony Weiner.

Anthony Weiner represents a group, they are called Perverts/Liberals....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-18   14:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: CZ82 (#64)

Fine...Mark Foley, David Vitter, Mark Sanford, Larry Craig represent a group too...CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS.

Want some more "CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS"?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-18   14:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: war (#65)

Fine here is a small start on democrats.

Nancy Pelosi the pervert murderer. Barack Obama. The pervert murderer. Barney the faggot murderer. Ted Kennedy the dead drunk murderer. Harry Reid. The weirdo Hillary Clinton. The freak pervert murderer Chalres Rangel. The black murdering thief Al Gore. The liar i'm running for VP murderer. Anthony the weiner. look at my weiner I'm a murderer Jessie the Jackass I want to be presidnet killing babies is ok murderer. Jessie the Jackass Jr. I am for murdering babies. Colin Powell. Im black and support Obama and murdering babies. Yes Powell is a democrat. Leon I got fired fromt he Cia but I like dead babies.

I could just cut and paste a list of current and former democrats. Almost all of them vote to fund murders of American children.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   14:24:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: CZ82 (#64)

Anthony Weiner represents a group, they are called Perverts/Liberals....

Desiring some nice looking trim of the female persuasion is perverted/liberal?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-18   14:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Fred Mertz (#67)

Weiner is a flasher.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   14:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: A K A Stone (#66)

Cripes, you must have forgotten to take your meds today.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-18   14:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Fred Mertz (#67)

Desiring some nice looking trim of the female persuasion is perverted/liberal?

Desiring is one thing, getting it is another...... especially when you're supposed to be married to one...

So sending pictures of his scrawny little body and whatever he calls that thing he had in his hand is the way to go about it????? Why didn't he do it the old fashioned way with a trench coat and stand on the street corner "flashing" women.... I still don't think he would have gotten any no matter what.... Even the porn goddess came out and said "No way" to him......

So whatever happened to "dating" or scoring with the prostitutes???

Wonder who got his wife pregnant?????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-18   14:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: war (#65)

Fine...Mark Foley, David Vitter, Mark Sanford, Larry Craig represent a group too...CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS.

Want some more "CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS"?

And were they scoring some on the side or were they "electronically flashing" hoping to get some???

Who said they were Conservative Republicans anyway????? Them???? LOL......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-18   14:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: CZ82 (#70) (Edited)

It was stupid what he did, no argument here.

I like how his yukon defense went over like a lead balloon.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-18   14:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Fred Mertz (#72)

It was stupid what he did, no argument here.

Really stupid.....

He would have gotten more respect from me if he had used a trench coat and fessed up to what he did, instead of trying to hide his actions and lie like hell...

So do you live in Ohio or somewhere close by????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-18   14:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: CZ82 (#73)

Kentucky.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-18   14:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: sneakypete (#50)

Really? Then you should be able to quote me and produce a link.

Here you go, you racist pig:

Why the HELL did they bury this woman at Arlington?

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-20   1:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Godwinson (#75)

Really? Then you should be able to quote me and produce a link.

Here you go, you racist pig:

Fuck you,you brain dead cretin. That woman was not and is not qualified to be buried at Arlington National Cemetary. Period.

Unless racist assholes like you consider her skin color to be a qualification,that is.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-20   4:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: sneakypete (#76)

So now you remember? And it is clear this military veteran met all needs for Arlington and your gripe is she is a black woman and was only buried there for that reason (and the reasons you give for only being buried at Arlington on that other web site are false).

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-20   9:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: CZ82 (#46)

The only thing they like to control is other people, not themselves....

Yep. See Alan Grayson, Anthony Weiner, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd for starters.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-20   9:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Godwinson (#77)

So now you remember?

No,I knew all along what you had your panties all in a wad about. I just wanted to make you state it plainly.

And it is clear this military veteran met all needs for Arlington ..

ONLY if the ONLY requirement is she be an anti-American racist black bitch.

Kinda like you.

your gripe is she is a black woman and was only buried there for that reason..

See,like a broken clock,sometimes even YOU are right. I'm sure it was a mistake on your part,though.

(and the reasons you give for only being buried at Arlington on that other web site are false).

And there you are back to normal again. Wrong.

I encourage everybody to click on that link you provided and see what a self-serving racist bitch she was,and how she only joined the army during WW-2 was because it was the highest paying job she could find,and that she never left the US the whole time.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-20   10:04:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: sneakypete (#79)

ONLY if the ONLY requirement is she be an anti-American racist black bitch.

Whatever, Archie Bunker.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-20   10:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: sneakypete (#79)

I encourage everybody to click on that link you provided and see what a self-serving racist bitch she was,and how she only joined the army during WW-2 was because it was the highest paying job she could find,and that she never left the US the whole time.

I didn't know that GI's during WWII could determine where they were to be stationed.

And since most in Vietnam who volunteered did so to avoid the draft, how's that for a motive?

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-20   10:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Rodent Mike (#0)

was one of those rare species: a black Republican, the guy willing to spit into the wind of conventional thought, who was often showcased on camera at party events to prove inclusiveness.

But as a proud black man, I can no longer be a member of the Republican Party.

fuck you rodent.

posting this crap is like the comical "conservatives for barack" crap we saw back in 2008.

reeks of how pathetically scared you are of next years' enormous landslide:)

Death to everybody who does not get outta my way. (decided to retire the beatdowns on old worthless retread posters that are bozoed)

e_type_jag  posted on  2011-06-20   14:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: mininggold (#81) (Edited)

I didn't know that GI's during WWII could determine where they were to be stationed.

Add that to large list of many of the things you don't know. Blacks weren't even ALLOWED to serve in combat units in the army during WW-2,never mind female blacks that got a direct commission as a teacher.

Which is really irrelevant,since she never received a Silver Star or a Purple Heart,and she didn't retire from the army. Even IF she had served overseas she STILL wouldn't qualify for burial at Arlington.

And since most in Vietnam who volunteered did so to avoid the draft, how's that for a motive?

People enlisted to go to VN in order to avoid being drafted and sent to VN?

Where the hell do you come up with this nonsense?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-20   19:18:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: e_type_jag (#82)

posting this crap is like the comical "conservatives for barack" crap we saw back in 2008.

Both sides pull the "I was a Dim-0-Crat until...../I was a Republican until..." nonsense. The only surprising thing is that there is anybody that hangs out on political websites that is still stupid enough to believe it.

Yeah,there are people that switch parties,but it's never over just one issue.

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sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-20   19:21:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: sneakypete (#83)

Blacks weren't even ALLOWED to serve in combat units in the army during WW-2

The 370th Regimental Combat Team of the 92nd "Buffalo" Division was activated in 1944 and fought in Italy after D-Day.

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war  posted on  2011-06-20   19:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: sneakypete (#83)

Blacks weren't even ALLOWED to serve in combat units in the army during WW-2...

Not 100% correct. From wikipedia:

The Tuskegee Airmen ( /tŒsÈkiÐaiÐ/)[1] is the popular name of a group of African American pilots who fought in World War II. Formally, they were the 332nd Fighter Group and the 477th Bombardment Group of the U.S. Army Air Corps.

The Tuskegee Airmen were the first African American military aviators in the United States armed forces. During World War II, African Americans in many U.S. states still were subject to racist Jim Crow laws.[N 1] The American military was racially segregated, as was much of the federal government. The Tuskegee Airmen were subject to racial discrimination, both within and outside the army. Despite these adversities, they trained and flew with distinction.

Although the 477th Bombardment Group "worked up" on North American B-25 Mitchell bombers, they never served in combat; the Tuskegee 332nd Fighter Group was the only operational unit, first sent overseas as part of Operation Torch, then in action in Sicily and Italy, before being deployed as bomber escorts in Europe where they were particularly successful in their missions.[3]

The Tuskegee Airmen initially were equipped with Curtiss P-40 Warhawks fighter- bomber aircraft, briefly with Bell P-39 Airacobras (March 1944), later with Republic P-47 Thunderbolts (June–July 1944), and finally the fighter group acquired the aircraft with which they became most commonly associated, the North American P-51 Mustang (July 1944). When the pilots of the 332nd Fighter Group painted the tails of their P-47's red, the nickname "Red Tails" was coined. Bomber crews applied a more effusive "Red-Tail Angels" sobriquet. [N 2] [4]

From http://www.lwfaam.net/ww2/:

World War II Veterans by the Numbers:

16.1 million - Total war-time service members.
2.5 million - Black Americans who registered for draft, 1941-45.
50,000 - Black Americans permitted to serve in World War II combat.
2.3 million - Projected surviving World War II veterans of all races, as of September 30, 2009.
94,000 - Projected surviving black World War II veterans, as of September 30, 2009.
850 - Average number of World War II veterans of all races dying per day.

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-20   19:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: war (#85)

The 370th Regimental Combat Team of the 92nd "Buffalo" Division was activated in 1944 and fought in Italy after D-Day.

I stand corrected. Blacks were not allowed (even though I am certain some wanted to fight) to serve in combat units until late in the war.

They didn't do very well,but that shouldn't be surprising. None of them had ever been in combat before,including the NCO's and officers,and they were going up against hardened German troops that had actually been fighting for years by that time. Not only that,but the experienced Germans were fighting from defensive positions,and the green troops were assaulting.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-20   20:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Capitalist Eric (#86)

Blacks weren't even ALLOWED to serve in combat units in the army during WW-2...

Not 100% correct. From wikipedia:

The Tuskegee Airmen ( /tŒsÈkiÐaiÐ/)[1] is the popular name of a group of African American pilots who fought in World War II. Formally, they were the 332nd Fighter Group and the 477th Bombardment Group of the U.S. Army Air Corps.

That's the magical unit all the lies were told about. The PC airmen.

Yes,they were technically in the army,but only because the Air Force was a part of the army during WW-2.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-20   20:36:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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