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Title: Obama vs. Romney: It’s Not Looking Good For the American People or the US Constitution
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URL Source: http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-ne ... r-the-us-constitution_06152011
Published: Jun 15, 2011
Author: Mac Slavo
Post Date: 2011-06-15 18:12:42 by Capitalist Eric
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If you happened to be watching the Live CNN Polling the night of the debate, you may have noticed something odd about the results: Are we really to believe Ron Paul polled at 0% after having won the CPAC straw poll decisively in February of 2011? At the very same time CNN ran their “insider” poll showing Ron Paul at 0%, their online poll showed him at 81%. Granted, the online poll could be skewed and we can probably attribute a good portion of those online votes to alternative media readers who get most of their news on the internet, but 0% just doesn’t seem remotely plausible. There is a concerted effort to diminish Dr. Paul’s standing among republican voters, as has been evidenced time and again by the way his policies and popularity are covered. The left-leaning mainstream media has already chosen their candidates with Mitt Romney leading the pack. As they did in 2008, the media is pushing the republican candidate with the most left-leaning platform of the group, and the one that can be attacked as non-conservative post-primary, just as they did with John McCain. We know how that ended up in the last election, and they’re using the same playbook today. President Obama’s popularity may have tumbled in the last two years, but when it comes time to hit the voting booths he will still have a large amount of support nationwide. The third party movement – the real third party movement, which can just as easily be called the ‘No Party’ movement – is certainly not voting Obama. And, we’d be surprised to see them vote for a mainstream republican candidate as well this time around. Mainstream media of the democrat persuasion, which includes CNN, NBC, CNBC, ABC, and CBS know that independently minded Constitutionally-leaning voters are apt to stay home and not vote for the ‘lesser of two evils’ this election. This bodes very well for President Obama, as the republican candidate will need these third party independents to swing the election, so eliminating any possibility of a truly faithful Constitutional candidate from emerging is the immediate goal of the mainstream media (including Fox News) for the next year – until the primaries. For those who understand that the left and right political spectrum is a tool of tyranny, it’s easy to see that Mitt Romney is just another Bill Clinton, George Bush and Barack Obama. In the end, it really won’t matter all that much whether we have a second Obama Presidency, or a Romney Presidency, because neither one of these individuals will step up to stop the corruption in business and government, the looting of our wealth, and the attack on personal liberties in America. To review, here’s what conventional education would have us believe is the political spectrum: The traditional left and right paradigm attempts to differentiate between the Republican and Democrat parties. The “True View” shows us that both parties are one and the same in terms of personal, political and economic freedom. At this time, we remain pessimistic about the chances of a true view right leaning, or even centrist, candidate winning the White House in 2012. And, unless the appetites of third-party / no-party electorate are satiated with a Presidential, or even Vice-Presidential, candidate who they can trust, it is quite possible that President Obama rules (his words, not ours) for another term. As frustrating, scary, damaging and pessimistic as that may sound, it is what it is. It is still early in the Presidential election cycle and there will certainly be trends and surprises that emerge over the next year and a half, so this assessment is certainly subject to change. But right now, it’s not looking good for the American people or the US Constitution.
Poster Comment: The two "parties" are simply different sides of the same corrupt coin.
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#1. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)
I agree 100%. The saving grace is that Romney is willing to take any position at any time. Why is that good now? Americans have turned against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In the New Hampshire debate, Romney characterized the Afghanistan war as one of fighting for another country's independence. His statement surprised Ron Paul. This is a huge change from 2008, when Benito Giuliani just hammered Ron Paul for Paul's correct foreign policy views. Romney is still a putz and I won't vote for him, but at least he's not a neo-con ideologue.
Your political spectrum graph is nice because it emphasizes R&D are the same. The Nolan Chart is saying the same thing in a more two dimensional way. The two party fraud elites would be near the bottom next to each other. Rank and file is centrist, and indy's and non voters in the top section for the most part, IMO. So as Ron Paul says "Liberty is popular". There's a huge percentage of eligible voters who don't vote. They figure it's hopeless, I guess, aka defeatists. If you ain't got enough hope to vote, you ain't going to get no change. For some reason I come out on the survey as dead center, all the way at the top. Must be a bug in it.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
There are actually at least three dimensions -- economics, social policy and foreign policy. Pew Research gets this and has conducted a multi-dimensional analysis of American politics for at least a couple of decades. Unfortunately, Americans are one dimensional -- most believe that there are two answers to every question -- yes, no, unsure, which is why nothing other than liberal, "moderate", and conservative will ever catch on here. Pew identifies a bunch of categories: Staunch Conservatives, Main Street Republicans, Libertarians, Disaffecteds, Post-Moderns, New-Coalition Democrats, Hard-Pressed Democrats, Solid Liberals, Bystandards. According to their methodology, I am a libertarian.
Beyond Red vs. Blue: The Political Typology OVERVIEW With the economy still struggling and the nation involved in multiple military operations overseas, the public’s political mood is fractious. In this environment, many political attitudes have become more doctrinaire at both ends of the ideological spectrum, a polarization that reflects the current atmosphere in Washington. Yet at the same time, a growing number of Americans are choosing not to identify with either political party, and the center of the political spectrum is increasingly diverse. Rather than being moderate, many of these independents hold extremely strong ideological positions on issues such as the role of government, immigration, the environment and social issues. But they combine these views in ways that defy liberal or conservative orthodoxy. For political leaders in both parties, the challenge is not only one of appeasing ideological and moderate “wings” within their coalitions, but rather holding together remarkably disparate groups, many of whom have strong disagreements with core principles that have defined each party’s political character in recent years. The most visible shift in the political landscape since Pew Research’s previous political typology in early 2005 is the emergence of a single bloc of across- the-board conservatives. The long-standing divide between economic, pro-business conservatives and social conservatives has blurred. Today, Staunch Conservatives take extremely conservative positions on nearly all issues – on the size and role of government, on economics, foreign policy, social issues and moral concerns. Most agree with the Tea Party and even more very strongly disapprove of Barack Obama’s job performance. A second core group of Republicans – Main Street Republicans – also is conservative, but less consistently so. On the left, Solid Liberals express diametrically opposing views from the Staunch Conservatives on virtually every issue. While Solid Liberals are predominantly white, minorities make up greater shares of New Coalition Democrats – who include nearly equal numbers 0f whites, African Americans and Hispanics – and Hard-Pressed Democrats, who are about a third African American. Unlike Solid Liberals, both of these last two groups are highly religious and socially conservative. New Coalition Democrats are distinguished by their upbeat attitudes in the face of economic struggles. Independents have played a determinative role in the last three national elections. But the three groups in the center of the political typology have very little in common, aside from their avoidance of partisan labels. Libertarians and Post-Moderns are largely white, well-educated and affluent. They also share a relatively secular outlook on some social issues, including homosexuality and abortion. But Republican-oriented Libertarians are far more critical of government, less supportive of environmental regulations, and more supportive of business than are Post-Moderns, most of whom lean Democratic. Disaffecteds, the other main group of independents, are financially stressed and cynical about politics. Most lean to the Republican Party, though they differ from the core Republican groups in their support for increased government aid to the poor. Another group in the center, Bystanders, largely consign themselves to the political sidelines and for the most part are not included in this analysis. These are the principal findings of the political typology study by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, which sorts Americans into cohesive groups based on values, political beliefs, and party affiliation. The new study is based on two surveys with a combined sample of 3,029 adults, conducted Feb. 22-Mar. 14, 2011 and a smaller callback survey conducted April 7-10, 2011 with 1,432 of the same respondents. This is the fifth typology created by the Pew Research Center since 1987. Many of the groups identified in the current analysis are similar to those in past typologies, reflecting the continuing importance of a number of key beliefs and values. But there are a number of critical differences as well. The new groupings underscore the substantial political changes that have occurred since the spring of 2005, when the previous typology was released. Today, there are two core Republican groups, compared with three in 2005, to some extent reflecting a decline in GOP party affiliation. However, Democrats have not made gains in party identification. Rather, there has been a sharp rise in the percentage of independents – from 30% in 2005 to 37% currently. Today, there are three disparate groups of independents, compared with two in 2005. While Republicans trail the Democrats in party affiliation, they enjoy advantages in other areas: The two core GOP groups are more homogenous – demographically and ideologically – than are the three core Democratic groups. And socioeconomic differences are more apparent on the left: Nearly half of Solid Liberals (49%) are college graduates, compared with 27% of New Coalition Democrats and just 13% of Hard-Pressed Democrats. The GOP still enjoys an intensity advantage, which proved to be a crucial factor in the Republicans’ victories in the 2010 midterm elections. For example, the GOP’s core groups – Staunch Conservatives and Main Street Republicans – express strongly negative opinions about last year’s health care legislation, while reactions among the Democratic groups are more mixed. Even Solid Liberals offer only tepid support for the bill – 43% say it will have a mostly positive impact on the nation’s health care, while somewhat more (51%) say it will have a mixed effect. However, maintaining solid support among the GOP-oriented groups in the center of the typology represents a formidable challenge for Republicans. The cross- pressured Disaffecteds highlight this challenge. They were an important part of the GOP coalition in 2010, but were lackluster supporters of John McCain two years earlier. Like the core GOP groups, most Disaffecteds (73%) view government as nearly always wasteful and inefficient. At the same time, a solid majority of Disaffecteds (61%) say the government should do more to help needy Americans even if that means going deeper into debt. Libertarians, the other Republican-leaning group, overwhelmingly oppose expanding aid for the poor if it means increasing the nation’s debt. Yet on immigration and homosexuality, Libertarians’ views differ markedly from those of the core Republican groups. Fully 71% of Libertarians say homosexuality should be accepted by society; nearly as many Staunch Conservatives (68%) say it should be discouraged. Many of the political values and attitudes of Post-Moderns, young, Democratically-oriented independents, fit awkwardly with those of core Democratic groups. Post-Moderns overwhelmingly voted for Obama in 2008, but their turnout fell off dramatically last fall, which contributed to the Democrats’ poor showing in the midterms. Compared with the core Democratic groups, Post-Moderns are less supportive of increased aid for the needy and are far less likely to view racial discrimination as the main obstacle to African American progress. The new typology finds a deep and continuing divide between the two parties, as well as differences within both partisan coalitions. But the nature of the partisan divide has changed substantially over time. More than in the recent past, attitudes about government separate Democrats from Republicans, and it is these beliefs that are most correlated with political preferences looking ahead to 2012. In 2005, at the height of the Iraq war and shortly after an election in which national security was a dominant issue, opinions about assertiveness in foreign affairs almost completely distinguished Democrats from Republicans. Partisan divisions over national security remain, but in an era when the public’s focus is more inward-looking, they are less pronounced. As in recent years, beliefs about the environment, business, immigration and the challenges faced by African Americans are important fissures between the parties, though to some extent within them as well. In general, there is far more agreement across the two core GOP groups than the three core Democratic groups. Staunch Conservatives and Main Street Republicans express highly critical opinions about government performance and are both deeply skeptical of increased government aid to the poor if it means adding to the debt. Yet Staunch Conservatives have much more positive opinions about business than do Main Street Republicans. Attitudes about the environment also divide the two core GOP groups: 92% of Staunch Conservatives say that stricter environmental laws cost too many jobs and hurt the economy; just 22% of Main Street Republicans agree. The differences among core Democratic groups show up across a wider range of fundamental political values. Social and moral issues divide Solid Liberals, who are more secular, from other Democratic groups who are much more religious. Opinions about business, immigration and the economic impact of environmental laws and regulations also divide the Democratic groups. For instance, more than half of Hard-Pressed Democrats (54%) say that stricter environmental laws and regulations cost too many jobs and hurt the economy; just 22% of New Coalition Democrats and 7% of Solid Liberals share this view. Race and ethnicity are factors in some of the opinion differences among Democrats. New Coalition Democrats, who are roughly a quarter Hispanic, have positive views of immigrants. Fully 70% say immigrants strengthen the country because of their hard work and talents. Hard-Pressed Democrats – who are mostly white and African American – take a dim view of immigrants’ contributions. Just 13% say immigrants strengthen the country, while 76% say they are a burden because they take jobs and health care. Age also is a factor in partisanship and political values. Younger people are more numerous on the left, and older people on the right. However, many young people think of themselves as independents rather than as Democrats. Post- Moderns, Democratic-oriented independents, are by far the youngest group in the typology, but they often deviate from traditional Democratic orthodoxy and are not consistent voters. Older people, who have increasingly voted Republican in recent years, are found disproportionately in the Staunch Conservative bloc – 61% are 50 or older. And this group is highly politically engaged; 75% say they follow government and public affairs most of the time. Staunch Conservatives also include by far the largest share of Tea Party supporters – 72% of Staunch Conservatives agree with the movement. The Tea Party’s appeal is deeper than it is wide. There is no other typology group in which a majority agrees with the Tea Party. Aside from Staunch Conservatives, Libertarians are most supportive (44% agree). The survey suggests that while the Tea Party is a galvanizing force on the right, strong disapproval of Barack Obama is an even more powerful unifying factor among fervent conservatives. No fewer than 84% of Staunch Conservatives strongly disapprove of Obama’s job performance and 70% rate him very unfavorably personally. Ardent support for Obama on the left is no match for this – 64% of Solid Liberals strongly approve of him, and 45% rate him very favorably. More than two years into office, Obama’s personal image is positive though his job approval ratings are mixed. Yet doubts about Obama’s background and biography persist. More than one-in-five Americans (23%) say, incorrectly, that Obama was born outside the United States; another 22% are not sure where Obama was born. Nearly half of Staunch Conservatives (47%) and 35% of Main Street Republicans say that Obama was born in another country. Only among Solid Liberals is there near total agreement that Obama was, in fact, born in the United States (95%). (NOTE: The survey was conducted before President Obama released his long-form birth certificate on April 27.) Majorities in most typology groups say the country will need both to cut spending and raise taxes to reduce the budget deficit. Staunch Conservatives are the exception – 59% say the focus should only be on cutting spending. Core GOP groups largely prefer elected officials who stick to their positions rather than those who compromise. Solid Liberals overwhelmingly prefer officials who compromise, but the other two Democratic groups do not. For Staunch Conservatives it is still “Drill, Baby, Drill” – 72% say that expanding exploration for and production of oil, coal and natural gas is the more important energy priority. In most other typology groups, majorities say developing alternatives is more important. Republican groups say the Supreme Court should base rulings on its interpretation of the Constitution “as originally written.” Democratic groups say the Court should base its rulings on what the Constitution means today. Main Street Republicans and GOP-oriented Disaffecteds are far more likely than Staunch Conservatives or Libertarians to favor a significant government role in reducing childhood obesity. Solid Liberals are the only typology group in which a majority (54%) views democracy as more important than stability in the Middle East. Other groups say stable governments are more important or are divided on this question. New Coalition Democrats are more likely than the other core Democratic groups to say that most people can make it if they are willing to work hard. More Staunch Conservatives regularly watch Fox News than regularly watch CNN, MSNBC and the nightly network news broadcasts combined. There are few points on which all the typology groups can agree, but cynicism about politicians is one. Majorities across all eight groups, as well as Bystanders, say elected officials lose touch with the people pretty quickly. Staunch Conservatives overwhelmingly want to get tougher with China on economic issues. Across other typology groups, there is far more support for building stronger economic relations with China. The allied airstrikes in Libya divide Democratic groups. Solid Liberals and New Coalition Democrats favor the airstrikes, but about as many Hard-Pressed Democrats favor as oppose the operation. Michelle Obama is popular with Main Street Republicans, as well as most other typology groups. But Staunch Conservatives view the first lady unfavorably – and 43% view her very unfavorably. Making the Typology The 2011 typology divides the public into eight politically engaged groups, along with a ninth group of less engaged Bystanders. It is the fifth of its kind, following on previous studies in 1987, 1994, 1999 and 2005. Using a statistical procedure called cluster analysis, individuals are assigned to one of the eight core typology groups based on their position on nine scales of social and political values – each of which is determined by responses to two or three survey questions – as well as their party identification. Several different cluster solutions were evaluated for their effectiveness in producing cohesive groups that are distinct from one another, substantively meaningful and large enough in size to be analytically practical. The final solution selected to produce the political typology was judged to be strongest from a statistical point of view and to be most persuasive from a substantive point of view. As in past typologies, a measure of political attentiveness and voting participation was used to extract the “Bystander” group, people who are largely not engaged or involved in politics, before performing the cluster analysis.
CNN has been caught "fixing" polls several times.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Same here.
Huh?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" You are such a transparent fraud, Dickie. There isn't an iota of truth in you.
war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.
Huh? CNN is infamous for rigging polls to get the results they want. The first example was a gun control "poll" they ran back around 1990 or 1991. They were obviously expecting massive votes for gun control,and when it went the other way they took the poll down saying there were "technical problems" with it and that it would be put back up when the problems were fixed. A lot of us were suspicious about this so we saved screen shots from our browsing history. Guess what? When the poll went back up the numbers were reversed,and there was massive support FOR more gun control. Not only that,but any vote cast against gun control was logged on as being for gun control. We were all over them for that,posting screen shots to prove our claims. They shut the poll down again then and never responded to any of the complaints. Also,I just happened to be in Moscow during the 1996 presidential elections there,and the Communist Party of Russia just happened to be holding a campaign rally right outside the Hotel Belgrade,where I was staying. Their party leader and presidential candidate was standing on the back of a flatbed truck surrounded by the Moscow police,and giving a speech when I came down into the lobby to meet with my driver/translator. I was close enough I could see his mouth move and his eyes blink. The tv was on in the lobby,and it was CNN international reporting on the speech in English,and the reporter was saying the communist candidate had massive support from the people and even the Moscow police were there at the rally to show their support for him because he had vowed to end the lawlessness. I asked the translator about this and both he and other English-speaking Russians in the lobby all told me this was nonsense and asked me why the Americans were supporting the communists. I took a close look and the police surrounding the flat bed truck were NOT cheering and applauding the speech. In fact they had their backs to the truck and were there to guard him against the mostly anti-communist crowd that had shown up. CNN didn't mention this and they didn't mention the riot control militia detachment nearby that was ready to jump in if things got out of hand. I told the Russians I was talking to that if somebody would give me a belt-fed machine gun and a couple of good ammo bearers I would solve this little problem for them in just a few minutes. They started slapping me on the back and offering to buy me drinks in the bar.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Huh? I am NOT Boofer, Rudy...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" Guess what? When the poll went back up the numbers were reversed,and there was massive support FOR more gun control. Not only that,but any vote cast against gun control was logged on as being for gun control. We were all over them for that,posting screen shots to prove our claims. They shut the poll down again then and never responded to any of the complaints. 1990 or 1991? What ISP were you using?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" What ISP were you using? AOL. Why?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Because cnn.com didn't debut until 1995.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." "THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!" I saw similar situations, when I was in Romania. A lot of "hot" stories that the MSM were reporting on, were utter fictions. Seeing how they lied, first-hand, is what finally woke me up. Sadly, most people in America won't wake up to reality, until it's too late.
Because cnn.com didn't debut until 1995. Ok,it was 1995 then. What difference does the date make? It ain't like I knew I was going to be tested on it,so I didn't take notes. I did have the screen save,but lost it about 4 computers ago.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Yup. If you wanted to get the straight scoop on what Goober Gore and Bubba Bill were doing when Clinton was the president,the best place I found was the St.Petersburg (Russia) News. They reported on a lot of the double dealing and corruption of the Clinton administration and Yeltsin when it wasn't to be heard anywhere else. Things like Bubba Bill holding up World Bank loans to Russia until Yeltsin signed a contract to buy Tysons Chicken. Yeltsin didn't want to buy it anymore because up to 40% of the Tyson Chicken they had bought before showed up rotten.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
It says I'm a Libertarian......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Will wonders never cease? ;) I figured as much.
Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.
I figured as much. I'm glad somebody knows what/who I am....... Just do me a favor and don't ask my wifes opinion..... LOL....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#2. To: Capitalist Eric, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#0)
From Nolancharts:
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#3. To: hondo68 (#2)
(Edited)
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#4. To: hondo68 (#2)
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#5. To: Capitalist Eric (#0)
#6. To: hondo68 (#2)
For some reason I come out on the survey as dead center, all the way at the top.
#7. To: sneakypete (#5)
CNN has been caught "fixing" polls several times.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#8. To: war (#7)
Huh?
#9. To: war (#7)
CNN has been caught "fixing" polls several times.
#10. To: Rudgear (#8)
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#11. To: sneakypete (#9)
CNN is infamous for rigging polls to get the results they want. The first example was a gun control "poll" they ran back around 1990 or 1991. They were obviously expecting massive votes for gun control,and when it went the other way they took the poll down saying there were "technical problems" with it and that it would be put back up when the problems were fixed. A lot of us were suspicious about this so we saved screen shots from our browsing history.
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#12. To: war (#11)
1990 or 1991?
#13. To: sneakypete (#12)
AOL. Why?
--GW Bush
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"
#14. To: sneakypete (#9)
#15. To: war (#13)
AOL. Why?
#16. To: Capitalist Eric (#14)
Seeing how they lied, first-hand, is what finally woke me up.
#17. To: hondo68 (#2)
For some reason I come out on the survey as dead center, all the way at the top. Must be a bug in it.
#18. To: CZ82 (#17)
It says I'm a Libertarian......
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#19. To: hondo68 (#18)
It says I'm a Libertarian...... Will wonders never cease? ;)
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