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Title: White House: Libya Campaign Isn’t War
Source: Time: the swampland
URL Source: http://swampland.time.com/2011/06/1 ... -dont-apply-to-libya-campaign/
Published: Jun 15, 2011
Author: staff
Post Date: 2011-06-15 17:13:08 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 4731
Comments: 7

The United States is not engaged in a war with Libya and the War Powers Resolution does not apply to U.S. military action there, according to two White House officials who briefed reporters on Wednesday. “We’re now in a position where we’re operating in a support role. We’re not engaged in any of the activities that over history have been considered hostilities under the stature,” said one official. “We’re not risking troops… We’re confident that we’re operating consistent with the resolution.”

The briefing came just before the White House sent documents to the Hill explaining their position and one day after House Speaker John Boehner warned the Administration that if it did not clarify its position on Libya, it would be in violation of the 1973 War Powers Resolution by the week’s end. The resolution requires Presidents to seek congressional approval for conflicts lasting more than 90 days.

On Wednesday, White House officials argued that the U.S. “provided the bulk of its contribution at the front end but continues to provide support” in terms of refueling, intelligence, aerial drones and infrequent manned sorties. They stressed that funding for those operations is coming out of the existing Pentagon budget and President Obama would not be asking for a special supplemental for Libya. Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi’s ability to harm his own people has been diminished in recent months, they argued, as he has suffered political and military defections in the face of near united international opposition. The White House expects U.S. commitments through the North American Treaty Organization to decline.

On April 15, Obama, along with his French and German counterparts, wrote an op-ed calling for Gaddafi’s ouster. While the underlying justification for the operation in Libya remains United Nations resolution 1973, which simply calls for the defense of the Libyan people, “Gaddafi has shown absolutely no indication that he would remain in power and stop threatening his own people,” one of the Administration officials said. There have been increased “entrepreneurial” diplomatic efforts to convince Qaddafi to leave Libya, the official added.

One official bristled when asked about Rep. Michele Bachmann’s assertion in Monday night’s GOP presidential debate that “[we] don’t yet know who the rebel forces are that we’re helping.” The Minnesota Republican is the newest member of the House Select Committee on Intelligence. The official noted that in addition to meeting with them in “multiple international venues,” the White House has received members of the Transitional National Council, whose 45 members represent the various opposition factions, as has Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on several occasions. “We believe that we do have a legitimate interlocutor in the TNC,” the official said. “And they have a much better chance of delivering a better future for Libya than Qaddafi and his regime.” Such a good chance, the official went on to say, that they are negotiating with Congress to release some of the tens of billions of dollars in frozen Gaddafi accounts to the TNC to help fund their cause.

Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich and nine other members of Congress filed a lawsuit on Wednesday to force the Administration to cease operations in Libya. Administration officials declined to comment on pending litigation, except to point out that historically, such suits had little impact on policy.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2011/06/15/white-house-war-powers-dont-apply-to-libya-campaign/#ixzz1PNi4ywnn

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

White House: Libya Campaign Isn’t War

"It depends on what the meaning of 'is' is..."

Or isn't.

Feh. Friggin' LIARS...

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-15   17:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Capitalist Eric (#1)

I suppose that the 0bama administration considers a threshold test of "hostilities" before a war is initiated and as a result, is immune to any constitutional/legislative act.

I guess I have a question for 0bama: What is the threshold? Is it one bomb? Is it 10 bombs? Is it 1000 bombs?

Libya hasn't lobbed any bombs at America, correct?

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-15   17:37:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#0)

Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich and nine other members of Congress filed a lawsuit on Wednesday to force the Administration to cease operations in Libya. Administration officials declined to comment on pending litigation, except to point out that historically, such suits had little impact on policy.

That's what I thought, blowing more smoke up everyones ass and calling it sunshine...

Murron  posted on  2011-06-15   18:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Murron (#3)

That's what I thought, blowing more smoke up everyones ass and calling it sunshine...

Or pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-15   18:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#4)

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-15   18:47:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#4)

There isn't a backbone among the lot of them...

Murron  posted on  2011-06-15   18:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Capitalist Eric (#5)

They need to change that to say his economy is basically a shit sandwich.....

LOL.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-15   19:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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