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Title: Herman Cain: I Don’t Like ‘African-American’ Label (My editorial: He doesn't want to be lumped in with entitlement niggers like Obama)
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URL Source: http://nation.foxnews.com/herman-ca ... d=NL_FiredUpFoxNation_20110614
Published: Jun 15, 2011
Author: foxnews
Post Date: 2011-06-15 14:27:50 by no gnu taxes
Keywords: None
Views: 35692
Comments: 56

Herman Cain, the beguilingly personable pizza mogul and Tea Party sweetheart who is showing well in the so-far uncompelling Republican presidential nomination campaign, threw a flag early in an interview I conducted with him last week. I had made the dire mistake of referring to him as African-American.

"I am an American. Black. Conservative," he said, punctuating each aspect of his self-identity. "I don't use African-American, because I'm American, I'm black and I'm conservative. I don't like people trying to label me. African- American is socially acceptable for some people, but I am not some people."

What is it about the word "African" that the candidate doesn't particularly appreciate?

"Most of the ancestors that I can trace were born here in the United States of America," he said, hitting those last four words with a hammer. "And then it goes back to slavery. And I'm sure my ancestors go all the way back to Africa, but I feel more of an affinity for America than I do for Africa. I'm a black man in America."

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#1. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

In a related story...I'm due for an oil change in my Passat.

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"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

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war  posted on  2011-06-15   14:30:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#1)

my Passat.

LMFAO!

It figures.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-15   17:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Capitalist Eric (#2)

LMFAO!

It figures.

You trying to say something, Erica?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-15   19:41:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

I was born in 1959. In my life time, blacks have wanted to be called Negro, Colored, Black, African American, and People of Color.

It's ridiculous that we have to spend so much time on this nonsense.

In fact, it's completely outrageous.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-15   20:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#4)

Yea them goddam niggers just don't know what they want to be called now do they?

Moron.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-15   21:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: war (#5)

Yea them goddam niggers just don't know what they want to be called now do they?

I never said any such thing.

Your problem is that you are obsessed by this nonsense when you should be focused on succeeding in your career and taking care of your family.

You are illustrating the reason why 85% of black kids don't have a father and 1/3 of young black men are in jail.

It's a huge problem for the future of our civilization.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-15   21:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

It wasn't you who said: "I was born in 1959. In my life time, blacks have wanted to be called Negro, Colored, Black, African American, and People of Color...It's ridiculous that we have to spend so much time on this nonsense."?

I defy you to provide proof that validates every "observation" that you made above.

You cannot.

And it has nothing to do with birthrates...birthrates which are similar among whites of similar economic background.

What YOU have illustrated is that you talk out of your ass.

Again.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-15   22:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#7)

Oh, it looks like I touched a big nerve with you. Are you going to do a drive by on me?


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-15   22:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#4)

I was born in 1959. In my life time, blacks have wanted to be called Negro, Colored, Black, African American, and People of Color.

It's ridiculous that we have to spend so much time on this nonsense.

So what?

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-15   22:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lucysmom (#9)

So what?

Why not just call themselves Americans?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-15   22:33:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Why not just call themselves Americans?

Obama calls himself an American and you take issue with that.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-15   23:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#10) (Edited)

Why not just call themselves Americans?

It has something to do with their culture (sarcasm).....

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CZ82  posted on  2011-06-16   6:29:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: lucysmom (#11)

Everyone can't call themselves Americans. For example if you are from Kenya.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-16   6:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: jwpegler (#8)

Was that an answer?

Sepcifically, to this question:

I defy you to provide proof that validates every "observation" that you made above.

~~~~~~~~~~~

Don't blame me because you said something dumb.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-16   7:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#13)

For example if you are from Kenya.

Obama's father was from Kenya, his mother was American, and Obama was born in the United States - that makes him American - or at least it would if he were white.

It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-16   10:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: no gnu taxes (#0)

"I don't use African-American, because I'm American,.....

And that is the way it's supposed to be. The "I'm black and I'm a conservative" are just incidental .

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-16   20:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: jwpegler, war (#6)

Your problem is that you are obsessed by this nonsense

Of course he is. He's a Dim,and symbolism is everything to Dims.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-16   20:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war, jwpegler (#7)

It wasn't you who said: "I was born in 1959. In my life time, blacks have wanted to be called Negro, Colored, Black, African American, and People of Color...It's ridiculous that we have to spend so much time on this nonsense."?

I defy you to provide proof that validates every "observation" that you made above.

And I challenge you to deny the basic truths he wrote.

Is it or is it not true that in the last 50 years Americans of African descent have insisted on being called Negro,Colored,Black,African-America,and People of Color,or untrue?

I remember when I was a kid that you might as well call a "colored man" a nigger as call him black. Then suddenly,"black" became the preferred label and Negro was a slur.

Pick a preferred label and stick to it. The rest of us are NOT responsible for your changing preferences and shouldn't be expected to keep up with what is acceptable and what isn't.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-16   20:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Why not just call themselves Americans?

I've been wondering about that for years.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-16   20:34:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lucysmom (#11)

Obama calls himself an American and you take issue with that.

That's because so much of what he says about himself is a lie. Even HE didn't identify himself as an American before he won the Dim primary. He called himself a African.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-16   20:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#18)

And I challenge you to deny the basic truths he wrote.

I did.

Every label he listed, save African-American and black, were put on blacks by WHITES...Negro...Colored...etc...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-17   6:37:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: war (#21)

Every label he listed, save African-American and black, were put on blacks by WHITES...Negro...Colored...etc..

Oh,bullshit! I remember blacks DEMANDING to be called Negro.

Ever heard of The United NEGRO College Fund? How about the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People? I guess some evil honkie named those organizations?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-17   6:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#22)

I remember blacks DEMANDING to be called Negro.

Instead of what...nigger? The word "Negro" has been in use since the first slaves and nor was it unusual that slaves were referred to as "African"...in fact, they seemed to be called everythign..except AMERICAN.

Ever heard of The United NEGRO College Fund? How about the National Association for the Advancement of COLORED People? I guess some evil honkie named those organizations?

Ever hear of a CIRCULAR ARGUMENT?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-17   7:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#23)

Nice title/site, Stone...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-17   8:24:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#21) (Edited)

Every label he listed, save African-American and black, were put on blacks by WHITES

Whites did not invent "People of Color", which is reminiscent of Coloreds. Blacks invented that term.

Negro is the Spanish term for the color black. You wrote that blacks like to be called black. Negro is the appropriate Spanish translation.

So, once again I am correct and you are wrong.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-17   10:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler (#25)

Blacks invented that term.

Uh...no...it was first used in a SCOTUS decision to describe various classes of citizens who were, at some point, denied, rightly or wrongly, equal protection of the law.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-17   10:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: jwpegler (#25)

Negro is the Spanish term for the color black.

The Spanish are black?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-17   10:43:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#23)

The word "Negro" has been in use since the first slaves and nor was it unusual that slaves were referred to as "African"...in fact, they seemed to be called everythign..except AMERICAN.

And most have ancestry that's been in the US been much longer than any group other than Indian.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-17   10:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: war (#27)

I said: Negro is the Spanish term for the color black.

You replied: The Spanish are black?

Now I understand the problem. You are illiterate. You don't know how to read.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-17   13:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: jwpegler (#29)

Now I understand the problem. You are illiterate. You don't know how to read.

You stated yourself, correctly for once, that it was the the SPANISH coined the term "Negro".

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-17   14:02:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: war (#30)

You stated yourself, correctly for once, that it was the the SPANISH coined the term "Negro".

No,he stated that the Spanish word for black is "Negro".

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-17   23:27:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

No,he stated that the Spanish word for black is "Negro".

I think I bought some beans is a can that said they were "negro".

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   10:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#32) (Edited)

Black beans


Dark beer


Black Ice


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-18   11:27:09 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: jwpegler (#33)

Yeah maybe it was a bag like that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-18   11:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#31)

No,he stated that the Spanish word for black is "Negro".

And blacks like to be called black, so calling them negro is not offensive at all, because negro is just the Spanish word for black. It means the same thing.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-18   11:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#31)

No,he stated that the Spanish word for black is "Negro".

Then he gets partial credit. The Spanish DID coin the term for "Negro" the Africans.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-18   13:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: jwpegler (#35)

Your credentials as spokesperson for the black race please?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-18   13:16:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: jwpegler (#35)

And blacks like to be called black, so calling them negro is not offensive at all, because negro is just the Spanish word for black. It means the same thing.

Don't tell ME,tell the ones that get their asses up on their shoulders about it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-18   14:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: war (#36)

The Spanish DID coin the term for "Negro" the Africans.

Really? What word did they use for black before this?

Or maybe the color black just didn't exist in Spain before they discovered Africans?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-18   14:12:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: jwpegler (#35) (Edited)

And blacks like to be called black, so calling them negro is not offensive at all, because negro is just the Spanish word for black.

In Spanish it is pronounced NAY-gro, so it really isn't the same.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-18   14:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#39)

Really? What word did they use for black before this?

Bad wordage...

Try it this way...

The Spanish DID coin the term "Negro" for the Africans.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

"THE MILITIA IS COMING!!! THE MILITIA IS COMING!!!"
--Sarah Palin's version of "The Midnight Ride of Paul revere"

war  posted on  2011-06-18   14:16:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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