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Title: How the Nation’s Only State-Owned Bank Became the Envy of Wall Street
Source: Mother Jones
URL Source: http://motherjones.com/mojo/2009/03 ... d-bank-became-envy-wall-street
Published: Mar 27, 2009
Author: Josh Harkinson
Post Date: 2011-06-14 01:18:58 by lucysmom
Keywords: Socialist Red State Banking
Views: 54544
Comments: 75

The Bank of North Dakota is the only state-owned bank in America—what Republicans might call an idiosyncratic bastion of socialism. It also earned a record profit last year even as its private-sector corollaries lost billions. To be sure, it owes some of its unusual success to North Dakota’s well-insulated economy, which is heavy on agricultural staples and light on housing speculation. But that hasn’t stopped out-of-state politicos from beating a path to chilly Bismarck in search of advice. Could opening state-owned banks across America get us out of the financial crisis? It certainly might help, says Ellen Brown, author of the book, Web of Debt, who writes that the Bank of North Dakota, with its $4 billion under management, has avoided the credit freeze by “creating its own credit, leading the nation in establishing state economic sovereignty.” Mother Jones spoke with the Bank of North Dakota’s president, Eric Hardmeyer.

Mother Jones: How was the bank formed?

Eric Hardmeyer: It was created 90 years ago, in 1919, as a populist movement swept the northern plains. Basically it was a very angry movement by a large group of the agrarian sector that was upset by decisions that were being made in the eastern markets, the money markets maybe in Minneapolis, New York, deciding who got credit and how to market their goods. So it swept the northern plains. In North Dakota the movement was called the Nonpartisan League, and they actually took control of the legislature and created what was called an industrial program, which created both the Bank of North Dakota as a financing arm and a state-owned mill and elevator to market and buy the grain from the farmer. And we’re both in existence today doing exactly what we were created for 90 years ago. Only we’ve morphed a little bit and found other niches and ways to promote the state of North Dakota.

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EH: It just reinforced what we do, and that is you stick to what you understand, you do it well, you know your customers. We’ve never been a bank that tries to hit home runs. That’s not what we’re all about. We have a specific mission which is more important. Most corporations and banks, their top priority is to maximize shareholder return. And that is a nice byproduct for us because we do have a nice return—an NROA [return on net operating assets] of 2, a ROE [return on equity] of 25, 26 percent. But really where we take the most satisfaction is making sure we meet the needs of the state and finance those types of things that make our state go forward.

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#1. To: Badeye, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric, Mininggold (#0)

Eleven states including California are currently considering creating their own state bank.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-14   1:20:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lucysmom (#1)

California having its own 'state bank' is like a alcoholic having his own distillery.

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-14   12:45:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#5)

California having its own 'state bank' is like a alcoholic having his own distillery.

I think California should even be able to issue it's own currency.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-14   12:47:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mininggold (#6)

Of course you do, ming......rotflmao.

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-14   12:53:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#7)

Of course you do, ming......rotflmao.

We have the economy to support it and we wouldn't have you red state albatrosses around our neck.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-14   22:01:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#14)

...we wouldn't have you red state albatrosses around our neck.

They don't appreciate what we do for them anyway.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-14   23:23:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: lucysmom (#20)

...we wouldn't have you red state albatrosses around our neck. They don't appreciate what we do for them anyway.

True, we don't appreciate California liberalism dragging the entire nation into the poor house.

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-15   10:39:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#23)

True, we don't appreciate California liberalism dragging the entire nation into the poor house.

I know that you know that's not true; so why would you write something that is demonstrably false?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-15   10:51:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#24)

know that you know that's not true; so why would you write something that is demonstrably false?

Whats California's deficit this year, goofy?

Whats Governor Brown's position on California's fiscal status today?

Are you smoking crack cocaine today while you post?

(appears so)

Badeye  posted on  2011-06-15   15:32:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Badeye (#35)

Whats California's deficit this year, goofy?

Whats Governor Brown's position on California's fiscal status today?

Silly boy, you are getting things mixed up.

California sends more tax money to Washington than it gets back in spending from Washington - so no drain on the rest of the country.

Internally (that has little to do with the 49 other states) California's budget is in deficit by $22 million.

Brown has proposed a budget that cuts spending by $11 billion dollars (more than Congressional Republicans can agree to) and wants to extend current tax rates (not create new taxes) to balance the budget.

The problem in California is not Jerry Brown, it is Republicans in Sacramento that owe more allegiance to Grover Norquist than the people they represent.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-15   17:22:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lucysmom (#42)

Internally (that has little to do with the 49 other states) California's budget is in deficit by $22 million.

As usual, you're all wrong on the facts.

The total debt for the state is ~$12 BILLION.

About half of that is sweet-heart pension deals to public employee unions (parasites).

Brown has proposed a budget that cuts spending by $11 billion dollars (more than Congressional Republicans can agree to) and wants to extend current tax rates (not create new taxes) to balance the budget. The problem in California is not Jerry Brown, it is Republicans in Sacramento that owe more allegiance to Grover Norquist than the people they represent.

MORE bullshit. As the LIBERAL mayor of San Jose just stated, "it's not a political problem, it's a MATH problem." In other words, the money is GONE.

GONE.

How tough is that for you to understand?

The money is gone. GET IT???

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-15   19:01:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Capitalist Eric (#44)

MORE bullshit. As the LIBERAL mayor of San Jose just stated, "it's not a political problem, it's a MATH problem." In other words, the money is GONE.

San Jose police have just accepted a 10% pay cut. This is on top of a 10% pay cut a while back.

The money is gone. GET IT???

The money is not gone, it's been redistributed upwards.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-15   21:38:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: lucysmom (#45)

San Jose police have just accepted a 10% pay cut. This is on top of a 10% pay cut a while back.

The local PD union is at least willing to work with the city. The logic is quite simple: 50% (or in this case 80%) of something is better than all of nothing.

The money is not gone, it's been redistributed upwards.
MORE bullshit. It was promised to union thugs (in return for kickbacks to the political whoring class in Sacramento) in the form of fat-cat pensions for the union membership. Now that the unions are literally sucking the state dry of money, those same union thugs and members INSIST on getting theirs, and don't give a SHIT about where the money's gonna' come from.

They're using the same logic YOU use, when talking about the "promised" money to you- plus interest- when talking about Social Security.

Fundamentally, you're no different from the union parasites. And that's why you identify so well with them... and refuse to address the mathematical gap in your Alice-In-Wonderland world.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-16   15:59:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Capitalist Eric (#57)

MORE bullshit. It was promised to union thugs (in return for kickbacks to the political whoring class in Sacramento) in the form of fat-cat pensions for the union membership.

Fat cat pensions for the working class, OH NO!

You, sir, are engaging in class warfare. You covet the working man's pension and would rob him of it.

Now that the unions are literally sucking the state dry of money, those same union thugs and members INSIST on getting theirs, and don't give a SHIT about where the money's gonna' come from.

You mean like when workers pay money into pension funds which are then laid upon the alter of the free market.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-16   17:26:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: lucysmom (#59)

Capitalist Eric: MORE bullshit. It was promised to union thugs (in return for kickbacks to the political whoring class in Sacramento) in the form of fat-cat pensions for the union membership.

LucysIdiotMom: Fat cat pensions for the working class, OH NO!

No, fat-cat pensions for "public employees" who make >150% of what the average person in California makes. Yeah, "collective bargaining" has made it so that the union-thugs live FAT, and protected from any economic downturns.

The union thugs think they're "special." That they should be paid no matter WHAT- whether they do their jobs or not, whether or not they're any good.

You, sir, are engaging in class warfare. You covet the working man's pension and would rob him of it.

YOU are one stupid, dim-witted bimbo.

How many times will I have to say it, before it starts to get into your empty little skull?

THE MONEY IS GONE!!! GONE!!!

What part of this do you not get?

What is so DIFFICULT for you to understand about this?

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-16   18:11:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Capitalist Eric (#60)

How many times will I have to say it, before it starts to get into your empty little skull?

THE MONEY IS GONE!!! GONE!!!

Repeat it as many times as you wish, it still don't make it the truth. Stomp your little foot while screaming and it still won't be the truth.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-16   18:37:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#62. To: lucysmom (#61) (Edited)

it still don't make it the truth.

Everyone except the most delusional leftists understand that it is the truth.

U.S. funding for future promises lags by trillions

The federal government's financial condition deteriorated rapidly last year, far beyond the $1.5 trillion in new debt taken on to finance the budget deficit, a USA TODAY analysis shows.

The government added $5.3 trillion in new financial obligations in 2010, largely for retirement programs such as Medicare and Social Security. That brings to a record $61.6 trillion the total of financial promises not paid for.

This gap between spending commitments and revenue last year equals more than one-third of the nation's gross domestic product.

Medicare alone took on $1.8 trillion in new liabilities, more than the record deficit prompting heated debate between Congress and the White House over lifting the debt ceiling.

Social Security added $1.4 trillion in obligations, partly reflecting longer life expectancies. Federal and military retirement programs added more to the financial hole, too.

Corporations would be required to count these new liabilities when they are taken on — and report a big loss to shareholders. Unlike businesses, however, Congress postpones recording spending commitments until it writes a check.

The $61.6 trillion in unfunded obligations amounts to $528,000 per household. That's more than five times what Americans have borrowed for everything else — mortgages, car loans and other debt. It reflects the challenge as the number of retirees soars over the next 20 years and seniors try to collect on those spending promises.

"The (federal) debt only tells us what the government owes to the public. It doesn't take into account what's owed to seniors, veterans and retired employees," says accountant Sheila Weinberg, founder of the Institute for Truth in Accounting, a Chicago-based group that advocates better financial reporting. "Without accurate accounting, we can't make good decisions..."

USA TODAY has calculated federal finances based on standard accounting rules since 2004 using data from the Medicare and Social Security annual reports and the little-known audited financial report of the federal government.

The government has promised pension and health benefits worth more than $700,000 per retired civil servant. The pension fund's key asset: federal IOUs.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-16 18:49:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: lucysmom (#61)

There's SHITLOADS of data on this subject... What'll it take, to get you to understand? What the fuck is WRONG in your empty head, that you can't accept reality, even when it slaps you?

If you think the sky is red, and I post a photo showing that it's blue, you'll insist that it's red... You are fucking DELUSIONAL.

For maybe thirty seconds, I thought about just BURYING this thread with financial data... graphs, audit results, etc.... the data is all out there, publically available.

But hey, you think that the money just magically appears, because you have DECIDED it will just magically appear... and if you have to STEAL it from someone else, or EVERYONE else, to fund your entitlement mentality, then so be it, eh?

You are one sick and STUPID broad...

Let me give you a little heads-up on something, granny... If it comes down to a choice between supporting your fat and lazy ass, or putting food on the table for my kids... I'll KICK your ass to the curb tout de suite.

Screw you, and your demands. You had your time and opportunity to make your own money, set up your own retirement, and all that.

You blew it.

YOUR problem, NOT mine.

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-16 18:57:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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