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Title: Dude, Where’s My Freedom? The government tightens the noose on guns, health, travel, and more.
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URL Source: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/dude-w ... ™s-my-freedom/?singlepage=true
Published: Jun 11, 2011
Author: Paul Hsieh
Post Date: 2011-06-13 02:48:47 by Mad Dog
Keywords: the feral gooberment, FERAL, GOOBERMENT
Views: 38686
Comments: 91

Benjamin Franklin once warned Americans that “they who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.” Yet in the seemingly unrelated areas of health care and physical security, our political leaders are embracing this folly with predictably bad results.

In the realm of health care, the Obama administration is forging ahead to implement its “universal health care” plan, despite consistent popular opposition and numerous legal challenges. They claim they must restrict patients’ freedoms by forcing them to purchase insurance on government terms and restrict doctors’ freedoms by herding them into Accountable Care Organizations (ACOs) in order to guarantee everyone the supposed “security” of guaranteed health care.

Yet, as we’ve already seen in Massachusetts (which has a health plan similar to the national ObamaCare program), this results in patients having theoretical “coverage” — but less of an ability to get actual medical care.

In the related realm of pharmaceuticals, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) claims it must restrict patients’ freedom to purchase (and manufacturers’ freedom to sell) drugs in order to protect our safety. However, pharmaceutical industry experts fault onerous FDA regulations for contributing to the current dangerous shortage of many injectable drugs by artificially raising the costs of drug creation and production. Hence, many seriously ill patients are now unable to get the medications they need.

Even worse, as Mark McCarty of Medical Device Daily recently described, FDA advisors have sought to deny terminally patients access to potentially life-extending treatments on the grounds that “the risk-benefit ratio was not up to par.” Similarly, medical device makers are now finding Europe a more hospitable environment for innovation than the U.S. due to FDA regulations. Rather than protecting Americans, the FDA is endangering them.

In the realm of transportation security, the Transportation Security Agency (TSA) is already a national joke for groping grandmothers and babies. Yet when tested with fake bombs and real guns, they’ve failed miserably. Indeed, it was the passengers who stopped the would-be bomber in Detroit of Northwest Airlines flight 253, not the TSA — a classic example of what blogger Glenn Reynolds calls “An Army of Davids.”

Americans have surrendered their freedoms (and their dignity) to the TSA for a sham “security theater” rather than genuine security. Yet politicians like Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) want to extend such controls from air travel to train travel.

Finally, Obama administration officials recently let slip that they are working on new gun control measures “under the radar.” Gun control is the classic example of foolishly exchanging an essential liberty for an illusion of security. The U.S. states that respect the honest citizen’s right to carry firearms in self-defense have consistently lower rates of violent crimes than states with strict gun control laws.

These examples illustrate the problems that arise when government oversteps its proper bounds. The proper function of government is to protect individual rights, such as our rights to free speech, property, and contract. Only those who initiate physical force or fraud can violate our rights. A properly limited government thus protects our rights by protecting us from criminals who steal, murder, rape, and so on, as well as from foreign aggressors. But it should otherwise leave honest people alone to live peacefully.

Whenever government exceeds those proper bounds, it violates honest citizens’ rights, rather than protecting them. Rather than the guilty, the innocent thus bear the costs.

Innocent patients in Massachusetts suffer by having to wait nearly twice as long for primary care appointments than patients in the other 49 states. Innocent patients around the country suffer from FDA barriers restricting their access to life-saving drugs and medical devices. TSA gropings punish innocent travelers, not the bad guys. Gun control punishes honest gun owners while rewarding violent criminals by delivering to them a populace of disarmed victims.

Fortunately, we can rectify these injustices by insisting that the government adhere to its legitimate function of protecting individual rights.

In health care, a proper government would allow patients, doctors, and insurers to enter into insurance contracts according to their own best judgment. The government’s job would be to enforce those contracts against any attempts by patients, providers, or insurers to cheat. It should not punish insurance companies for selling products that customers want, as recently occurred in Massachusetts. Note that in such a free market, the freedom to contract protects insurability (including for patients with pre-existing conditions), rather than destroying it.

With pharmaceuticals, the government should protect us against fraudulent claims. But otherwise drugmakers should be left free to decide what drugs to manufacture. Likewise, doctors and patients should decide what medications they should prescribe/take. The resultant free market would make safe, effective drugs much more affordable and available to all.

With respect to terrorism, the government should adopt a proactive foreign policy that actually tackles the threat of Islamic totalitarianism, rather than harassing law-abiding travelers.

With respect to violent crime, the government should go after actual criminals rather than penalizing law-abiding gun owners.

All forms of “gun control,” “travel control,” or “health control” are just examples of a broader “freedom control.” And they are all doomed to fail because at root they are just different ways of government violating our individual rights rather than protecting them.

In Memorial Day and D-Day commemorations around the country, America recently honored the many brave men and women who fought abroad for our liberty. Let us not ignobly surrender that hard-won liberty for politicians’ sham promises of “security” here at home. Otherwise, we may all wake up one day soon wondering, “Dude, where’s my freedom?”

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#30. To: Mad Dog (#27)

"What makes you "think" that anything you say to me matters? "

Spoken like a true sociopath, Steve. You think only your opinion and belief system matters. Which makes you the world's worst spokescritter for the Constitution and this country.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   10:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Mad Dog (#0)

Watch out for attack ferrets! Nice snack for the dogs. LOL at the faux domestic terrorist.

I hate to interrupt this flame war with facts related to the topic, but another gross violation of the constitution has just happened. Attorney General Eric Holder has pulled some "guidelines" out of his azz, which he believes permit the FBI to search anyone without permission from anyone, no paperwork or record whatsoever, for any imagined reason.

www.libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=21181

The fourth amendment has been repealed, by order of the AG.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Obama's watch stopped on 24 May 2008, but he's been too busy smoking crack to notice.

Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-13   12:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: hondo68 (#31)

That guy is one big flame war. Where have you been?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   12:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: hondo68, Mad Dog (#31) (Edited)

#35. To: Some Mothers Son (#34)

Some damsel's beau, some father's son, some mother's child...twenty-five days ago these men were alive. But now they're dead in Iraq, Falluja, Samarra, anywhere where the war on terror is raging. This is the other side of the story, this is the horror of war. When men (and women) in smart suits send their young to battle, what they don't often say is that war means death, bodies bloated and rotten, severely injured men and women being whisked in the middle of the night to military hospitals in Germany, anywhere, to be patched up, sedated, amputated. Bodies are taken out of body bags, laid in caskets, draped in flags, stored in warehouses, then taken home for burial. The world doesn't see these pictures, the media keep them under very low profile. The President of the United States hardly ever attends those funerals, except by his gung-ho ravings from afar. In fact, there is a prohibition against showing those flag-draped coffins to the American people.

Those who do, grieve silently — if they can — or they make it public, like Carlos Arredondo, who set himself on fire when told that his 20 year old son Lance Cpl. Alejandro Arredondo had been killed in Najaf. To the general public these deaths don't happen because all they see is Fox, CNN, NBC and all those other hippy-happy media that make war so much fun, about terrorists having to be flushed out, and paving the way for an election that's fair and free.

Twenty-five days ago those soldiers [above] were alive. Now they're dead soldiers mourned only by family members.

ferret posted on 2005-06-29 21:38:48 ET (1 image) Reply Untrace Trace

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#1695. To: ferret (#35)

Twenty-five days ago those soldiers [above] were alive. Now they're dead soldiers mourned only by family members. No weasel.

These MEN, these American HEROS, who have gone to glory, who are mourned by ALL Americans, (except weasels like you and the rest of America's enemies within).

When, and where, did you serve weasel? Which branch weasel?

Or are you just another coward, happy to spit on the memory of those better than you, who have given the last full measure, so that you can spew your insane hatred and bile with impunity under LAW?

Those men knew HONOR, (an unknowen country to weasels like you).

They knew that "nobody gets out alive", (out of LIFE weasel), and that "a coward dies a thousand times, while a brave man dies but ONCE".

Testify weasel.

Tell it like it ain't.

Mad Dog posted on 2007-01-29 3:21:03 ET Reply Untrace Trace

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#1696. To: Mad Dog (#1695)

"When, and where, did you serve weasel? Which branch weasel?"

Army, Special Forces. I don't remember his MOS. He can't respond to your post. He's been banned.

Big Meanie posted on 2007-01-29 03:24:56 ET Reply Untrace Trace

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#1697. To: Mad Dog, ferret (#1695)

"When, and where, did you serve weasel? Which branch weasel?"

Ferret's a vet, I'm pretty sure, but he's definitely become an anti-war zealot over the years.

I miss him, though, he was interesting...MUD

Mudboy Slim posted on 2007-01-30 14:48:52 ET Reply Untrace Trace

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http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=100329&Disp=1695&Trace=on#C1695

You whine about 'flame wars,' but actually Mad Dog was the first one to start in on me.

It was right after he, Sneaky Pete and others had responded appropriately to his perennial diarrea of the mouth maliciousness.

I find it interesting he cried so many crocodile tears about not being taken seriously as a vet and being accused of not being one the first thing he did without knowing me was to question my service.

He set the standard for future exchanges. If you infer I am being hard on him, then you just have not seen Skull Stomper/Mad Dog in action long enough to know he ultimately is just out for himself.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   13:34:18 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

LOL!

Spoken as the supercilious self centered pedant that we all know you to be bitch!

Rejecting YOU and YOUR ilk by no means means that I am left "alone".

On the contrary bitch, I am left with SANITY and GOODNESS when I reject scum such as YOU.

Am I going too fast for you bitch?

YOU NEED the HERD little bitch.

I despise the herd.

What a MOE-ROON you are bitch!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   15:21:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Mad Dog (#34)

The purpose of such language is to OFFEND YOU asshole.

(Pls note that you make VERY happy to learn that my feeble attempts to OFFEND YOU, and the rest of your wingnut butt buddies, is working.)

So now you get a wee bit of a taste of how your specious, inane, stupid, bloviations, affect the rest of us pinhead.

What IS filthy is your so called "thought process", which is MORE OFFENSIVE than any mere words that I could ever come up with.

Have a s**tty day.

Mad Dog posted on 2007-02-14 3:53:32 ET

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=174299&Disp=1134#C1134

When you so clearly state your comments are not for discussion but only there to try to offend, this takes the punch out of your attempt to cause consternation.

You post as if you were a one person crusade against debate and lively talk in forums. In fact you are so hell bent to leather to be rude reflexively, have of the few you do post somewhat civilly to you stated off by attacking then backing down saying you mis-understood them.

Which means you are a poor listener and this goes hand and hand with a generally anti-social outlook on life, Mr. Bait and Tackle Stevie.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   15:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: hondo68 (#31)

Watch out for attack ferrets! Nice snack for the dogs. LOL at the faux domestic terrorist.

While I agree that cornflake WHORE is a weak, cowardly, libTURD pussy, unlikely to actually DO anything but talk, I have through experience learned never to underestimate the ability of people to act out.

Honestly, "he" acts like some grade school gurl with a crush on me.

Note the subject of the thread on which this little libTURD bitch decided to start threatening me and my dogs.

THIS is a great example of how libTURDS operate.

When you beat them down like the vermin they are with the objective TRUTH, when you destroy them in every encounter, when they get angry and frustrated at you NOT going along with their "Hate America FIRST!" agenda, THEN they ALWAYS pull out the personal attacks and THREATS and such.

THIS will get worse as we go on, as the gibbering libTURD legions realize that they are getting whuppped.

Anyhow ... the little bitch thinks because he can and has trespassed in my system, that I'm supposed to be afraid of his threats.

I'm RIGHT here. I'm NOT going anywhere.

LOL!

Then he threatens my dogs?

LOL!

It would appear that weasel Mikey has a death wish.

Yep.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   15:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: hondo68, Ferret Mike (#33)

Mad Dog was the first one to start in on me.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Rule #1 of being a gibbering libTURD whore, "it's NEVER, EVER your fault".

NOTHING that any libTURD does is EVER their own fault! It's ALWAYS somebody else's "fault"!

(Usually it's some ebil repukelican't or ebil conservative's "fault".)

EVERYBODY knows libTURDS are pure as the driven snow. /S

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   15:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

.

LOL!

POINTING AT YOU

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You stoopid piece of libTURD shit, I'm not interested in having a "discussion" or "debate" with you and/or your ilk.

There are RULES for discussion and debate that you libTURD cunts totally ignore.

YOU creeps aren't interested in any objective truth, your only interest is to ADVANCE YOUR libTURD "Hate America FIRST!" agenda.

You just HATE having regular Americans turn your own weapons around and using them against YOU and YOUR filthy tyrannical agenda.

You libTURD cunts always TRY to pose as if you have some superior "moral" position, while WE ALL KNOW you are vermin of the lowest order.

You feel free to stroll through my system, and then threaten both me and my dogs, and then you whine like the little no ball libTURD cunt that you really are, that the mean 'ol DOG "started it".

Did you ever have any balls cornflake WHORE? (The ones bouncing off of your chin don't count WHORE.)

Let me ask you a simple question faggot, I'm sure that EVERYONE including STONE and the feds will be all ears, WHAT exactly makes you think that my name is "Steve" mikey boy?

Hmmmmmmmmmm?

Yeah, I thought so.

You foul gibbering libTURD MOE-ROON.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   15:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Mad Dog (#38)

Your post is all empty calorie. There is the usual and oft repeated bluster. And there is your laughable ascertain I seek revenge without having any love for the practice, never mind there doesn't exist a reason to take that posture.

That is your own inner turmoil and fears working on you to think in those terms. But thanks for sharing anyway, Steve. I am highly amused.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   16:11:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mad Dog (#38) (Edited)

Sapiens nihil affirmat quod non probat.

As I said, I can understand why you care so much for your dogs. Most people who don't socialize with others well usually have to get kindness from somewhere and usually this is animals that assume this role.

Frankly Steve, I don't know you well enough personally to go postal on you. And even if I did change my outlook on life to accept revenge as a viable way to do things, the last thing I would do is hurt an innocent animal.

You should ask yourself why you default to fears of revenge. You will find that in invoking such fears involves projecting how you do things in live on me. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   16:34:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Mad Dog (#38)

#1742. To: Mudboy Slim (#1725)

Mud: : "Yessir...why waste time with nastiness?"

Well..., to be blunt, the entire point of "nastiness" is to offend, insult, demean and ridicule, the appropriate "lifeforms".

Some, (too many) "lifeforms" NEED to be offended, (every moment), because they offend the traditional SANE American ethos with their miserable absurd hateful paranoid delusions.

(Not to mention the sheer entertainment value of said "lifeform's" whinning and crying.)

Mad Dog posted on 2007-02-21 5:50:37 ET Reply Trace

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In other words, your false sense of superiority is used by you to justify a fuckwit stance in forum.

Fuckwit is an old USENET term for someone who lives to abuse others and rhetorically bludgeon a discussion to a standstill.

Further, you admit the real reason you do this; to entertain yourself if possible by recreationally going after others.

Frankly, if you can't vicariously cop a thrill by typing out a written form of an obscene phone call, the activity does not interest you.

By the way, the George Parks Hwy is very scenic. Though the small size of the timber takes some getting used to to my Oregonian perspective. But I see why you like it up there. ;-D

It's colder, but in many ways the pan handle and southern coat of Alaska is much like where I live climate-wise.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   18:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Ferret Mike (#39)

LOL!

You are nothing but a gibbering libTURD FOOL!

I'd actually be worried if you "liked" me.

FOOL!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   19:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike (#40)

LOL!

What, exactly makes you think that my name is "Steve" again bitch?

LOL!

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah, I thought so ........

LOL!

You are nothing but a gibbering libTURD FOOL!

I'd actually be worried if you "liked" me.

FOOL!

LOL!

I don't know you as an individual bitch, but I sure DO know you.

YOU are a craven COWARD, who hides behind the web to make threats against people and their pets. You don't have the balls to come out and say it, you suggest it by implication.

Want me to make some phones calls you cowardly little bitch?

Want me to respond, in kind, to you cowardly little bitch?

Do you really think that it would be difficult to find you bitch? That you're unknown? Think that you're immune from the very real consequences of your threats to me bitch?

I don't put up with this shit bitch, not even for a second.

My only fears are of me losing control and coming at you in response to your threats to me and mine.

I don't like the cage, but ... whatever NEEDS to be done.

WILL be.

You pitiful little libTURD bitch.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   19:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#41)

LOL!

No shithead, what it means is that libTURD TOOLS/FOOLS/WHORES such as YOU are not worth the effort it takes to construct a valid logical argument backed in cited FACTS, because you libTURD WHORES are not actually interested in communication, discussion or debate.

All that you libTURD cunts want to do is to advance your pro tyranny agenda each and every time you spew your lies and crap.

You see, you little libTURD cunt, you are a libTURD herd dwelling TOOL/ FOOL and WHORE.

You aren't honest, you LIE with every breath.

You are just stoopid libTURD filth.

You are America's self declared enemy and so you are MY enemy.

I have no interest in trying to cure your mental and moral corruption and diseases, I only want to isolate you from the body politic, and let you "die" somewhere, alone, and bitter, reflecting on your long useless failure of a life spent in the mewling libTURD herd.

You don't have "another view point", what you have is a terminal DISEASE called libTURDISM.

I have no problem letting them comfort you as you pass on.

I just want to try to stop you from infecting still decent and normal folks with your filthy diseases.

You aren't even as important individually as even a single skeeter to me bitch.

Because TOOL, YOU ARE JUST A SYMPTOM, not an individual free adult "person".

Bummer.

BUT just for YOU!

LOL!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   20:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Mad Dog (#42)

"I'd actually be worried if you "liked" me."

In your good moments I do like you. In your worst I refuse to be bothered by you. And I do appreciate your apology after your first rant at my old pre- banned from eLPee post.

I do not hate or get upset with people over ideological differences. And in cases where the behavior is problematic, I generally only get irritated if that person fucks with me in person. Of course I will harp on them for what I know they are doing that they should not do.

I'm the oldest of six, and you know how bossy being the first born can make folks.

I didn't post on Free Republic for several year because I agreed with many of the people there. I made friends and agreed to disagree with them. And I wouldn't be here of in 4UM if opposing opinions ate my brains.

You can keep trying to bait all you usually do, but with me it goes in one ear and out the other without any bad effects. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   20:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Mad Dog (#43) (Edited)

"YOU are a craven COWARD, who hides behind the web to make threats against people and their pets. You don't have the balls to come out and say it, you suggest it by implication."

Actually, I have never had any interest in threatening you, and even if I was so immature, I still would leave the dumb animals out of it. The only time animals have ever influences me was when someone attacked my pet.

There was violence then.

I first mentioned I was coming up in the event you wanted to and were able to rendezvous. I used to pal with Blackie who was from Eugene, and know Lazamataz well and am still friends with him.

At this point though, I don't know how stable a person you are, especially if your perceptions of things are that I am 'threatening' you merely for having driven down your main highway and whatever else it is setting you off.

So when I come up, I don't plan on telling you. Which is no biggie, I have plenty of friends up there. Some of whom were in SF too and damn good sleuths.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   20:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Ferret Mike (#45)

wtf?

Your illness is invincible and thereby terminal.

You should seek help cornflake whore, you fit the nutjob definition to the tee.

First you threaten me and my dogs, and then you gibber on about Lord know what. Something to do with your delusion of being a shrink? Then you tell me that actually you "like" me?

"DUDE", really, seek mental help.

But in the end, I DON'T CARE, you foul gibbering libTURD fuckwad.

Because as a self declared enemy of the USA and Americans, I want you and your ilk to "crash and burn". Soon.

Why shouldn't what I say to you "go in one ear and out the other"?

There isn't ANYTHING in there to interfere with it's transit.

Is there bitch?

LMAO!!!!!!!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:01:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Mad Dog (#47)

If you call understanding why you like your dogs a threat, you are the one with the mental disconnect.

I'm 57 and have a very clean record. I have no violence anywhere on it. So how I supposed to suddenly change and threaten someone I have only met online in a forum is a real stretch.

You really need to do more thinking on this, you aren't doing so well in the perception of reality department. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:07:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#46)

Actually, I have never had any interest in threatening you, and even if I was so immature, I still would leave the dumb animals out of it. The only time animals have ever influences me was when someone attacked my pet.

Hey asswipe, you already made a threat against my dogs and me.

I'm not the cops or court system, I don't need to establish an admissible charge against you fuckwad.

All I need to do is "feel" threatened.

Want to tell us ALL again why you seem to think that my name is "Steve" bitch?

Want to tell us ALL again why you seem to think that the very first time you have ever mentioned my dogs, and you say that they look nice, and you "can see why I wouldn't want anything to happen to them" isn't an implied threat cunt?

Want to tell us ALL again where you have EVER "seen" my dogs cunt?

Want to tell us ALL again why you want to ask me about Caswell cunt?

You are base, foul, cowardly, gibbering libTURD filth.

Piss off.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:11:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Mad Dog (#47)

"Because as a self declared enemy of the USA and Americans, I want you and your ilk to "crash and burn". Soon."

Actually I care a great deal about this country. It's not like I spent nine years active and four years part time in the Guard because I liked spending all day getting ready for an exercise, all night doing it, then most the next day debriefing, cleaning weapons and all that shit.

Never mind the part how you go get shot at and shoot at others when called upon to do so.

Your mis-perception in this realm is your baggage. You are the one who is going to have to come to terms with that.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Mad Dog (#49)

"Want to tell us ALL again why you seem to think that my name is "Steve" bitch?"

Because you posted your name online. ;-D

Ask me nice and I will point to it for you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Ferret Mike (#48)

LOL!

You foul little gibbering libTURD cunt, I go by what people DO not what they say.

You are OBVIOUSLY a person with serious mental and moral issues.

I have no idea what the F you are actually going to do.

Do I?

Which is how you TRY to put me into a place of fear. You don't much like it when I turn it back around at YOU do you cunt?

You see bitch, I'm not laughing.

I'm scared of only one thing, and I've already told you what that is.

It sure ain't YOU.

BUT if you ever dared hurt my animals, I'm pretty sure I'd lose it on you.

I'm not scared bitch, I'm RIGHT here.

What I find offensive is a libTURD hypocrite cunt like you feeling that it's acceptable to threaten folks over the web.

It's not.

It's 100% cunt behavior.

Which figures in your case.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Mad Dog (#52)

"BUT if you ever dared hurt my animals, I'm pretty sure I'd lose it on you."

Well, if I ever picked on an animal to get at someone, I would deserve it. ;-D

It is on my list of revoltingly unacceptable behaviors. I am a dog lover anyway. I grew up with dogs. I owned a German Shepard and a schnauzer. The latter was a show quality dog. I've also had three or four mutts.

Dogs and humans have a special bond, and I don't violate it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Mad Dog (#52)

"Which is how you TRY to put me into a place of fear. You don't much like it when I turn it back around at YOU do you cunt?"

I didn't, and in turn, you haven't. ;-D

Your cognitive dissonance is your problem, not mine.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:26:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike (#51)

"Want to tell us ALL again why you seem to think that my name is "Steve" bitch?"

Because you posted your name online.

Nah LIAR that's what we call a "control" question, I already knew that one.

What has me "confused" is why you won't answer my other THREE questions bitch?

"Want to tell us ALL again why you seem to think that the very first time you have ever mentioned my dogs, and you say that they look nice, and you "can see why I wouldn't want anything to happen to them" isn't an implied threat cunt?

Want to tell us ALL again where you have EVER "seen" my dogs cunt?

Want to tell us ALL again why you want to ask me about Caswell cunt?"

Oh, I KNOW the answer to those questions also bitch.

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Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Mad Dog (#52)

"I'm not scared bitch, I'm RIGHT here."

Likewise, I'm sure.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:28:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ferret Mike (#53)

I see your lips moving but I don't hear a word that you're saying creep.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:31:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Ferret Mike (#54)

I see your lips moving but I don't hear a word that you're saying creep. . .

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:31:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Mad Dog (#55) (Edited)

Want to tell us ALL again where you have EVER "seen" my dogs cunt?

"Want to tell us ALL again where you have EVER "seen" my dogs cunt?"

I haven't. Like I said, I understand why you hqave a strong bond with them you mention many times in your posts on eLPee. You obviously don't do well with human contact, and everyone needs companionship.

Many people who deal poorly with humans take better to dogs or other animals. ;- D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Ferret Mike (#56)

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The difference is that I haven't threatened YOU or your DOGS bitch.

EVER.

Want to answer the other THREE questions bitch?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:33:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Mad Dog (#58)

One thing this shows beyond contention is you can dish it out, but you can't take it.

All I need to do is give you the tools and you prove this all by your lonesome self.

And face it Steve, you have been asking for some quid pro quo. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Mad Dog (#60)

"The difference is that I haven't threatened YOU or your DOGS bitch."

And I would never threaten yours. Your inability to deal with that is your problem, not mine.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:38:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ferret Mike (#59)

Actually bitch, you said, "Nice dogs. I see why they mean so much to you."

So bitch, how do you know that they are "nice dogs"?

I've never published their pictures bitch.

Their pictures are only ONE place bitch.

So, bitch ...

Want to tell me where you've ever seen my dogs or pictures of them bitch?

Want to tell me where you came up with CASWELL bitch?

I don't do well with YOU foul gibbering libTURD cunts, (actually I do fine, they don't do fine with me), nonetheless I do just fine with actual HUMANS.

Which certainly leaves YOU out.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:43:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Ferret Mike (#61)

You call threatening me and my dogs a "quid pro quo"?

No you little libTURD pissaant.

I won't let you threaten me, or my dogs, or anybody else, over the web without slamming your worthless libTURD ass into the mat over and over about it.

You little libTURD monkey boys just aren't trainable outside of Pavlovian techniques.

2" x 4" meet libTURD ASS!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Mad Dog (#63)

"So bitch, how do you know that they are "nice dogs"?"

That is the part I cannot share. But it's nothing you need fret about. Nobody I know wants to harm you.

As for where I came up with the information, I will be happy to give the source to you. Ask with some politesse and it's your's.

I'll even E mail it if you don't want it put in open forum.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   21:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Ferret Mike (#65)

M dog; "So bitch, how do you know that they are "nice dogs"?

I've never published their pictures bitch.

Their pictures are only ONE place bitch.

So, bitch ...

Want to tell me where you've ever seen my dogs or pictures of them bitch?

Want to tell me where you came up with CASWELL bitch?"

libTURD bitch; That is the part I cannot share. But it's nothing you need fret about. Nobody I know wants to harm you.

As for where I came up with the information, I will be happy to give the source to you. Ask with some politesse and it's your's.

I'll even E mail it if you don't want it put in open foruM"

ONE place bitch.

And bitch THIS is as "polite" as I'll EVER be to you.

((((((((((((((((((((((((crickets))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   21:56:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Mad Dog (#66)

"And bitch THIS is as "polite" as I'll EVER be to you."

I figured as much. This does not go contrary to my expectations.

You are a big boy, if you decide you want some courtesy, you are going to have to be courteous to get what you want.

It's just the way it is.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   22:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Ferret Mike (#67)

.

LOL!

You absurd puffed up Poppin Jay!

YOU have absolutely NOTHING that I want fool.

Other than you foul gibbering libTURD FOOLS/TOOLS/WHORES/useful idiots disappearing completely, in all ways from AMERICA'S life and history. (LOL! YEAH LIKE THAT'S EVER going to happen. /NOT LOL!)

I'm a federalist, so if you want to shit in your own nest, have at it!

BUT leave the rest of US Americans in the other 49 several states alone.

So ... (2" x 4" time), IF you gibbering libTURD hypocrite assholes just wanted to shit in your own nest and fuck up just the state that you live in I wouldn't care at all.

BUT, you assholes "think" that you have the right to FORCE ALL OF US OTHER AMERICANS TO LIVE ACCORDING TO YOUR STATE'S WAYS and WISHES! (Afterall libTURDISM IS the philosophy of the stoopid.)

Well asshole, in AMERICA, you don't have that "right", and the time of America's feral gooberments running America THAT way uncontested is OVER.

Sabe chongo?

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-06-13   22:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Ferret Mike (#67)

BRAVO thread! Keep it up as you have time.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-13   22:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Mad Dog (#68)

"YOU have absolutely NOTHING that I want fool."

Kewl. So, why are you bringing it up again then?

Oh and you are some kind of dilletante asshole in your own right. And you probably thought I did not catch the gist of your insult, bird brain. ;-D

You are a legend in your own mind, and you are a fool if you underestimate me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-06-13   22:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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