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Title: She's A Grand Old Fag...er Flag...
Source: The NY Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/11/us/11flag.html?ref=us
Published: Jun 11, 2011
Author: Sabrina Tavernise
Post Date: 2011-06-11 08:16:29 by war
Keywords: Cmon Folks
Views: 12048
Comments: 26

ICHMOND, Va. — The Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond ran a rainbow flag up its flagpole last week and has been hearing about it ever since.

From conservative groups who are outraged. From gay rights groups who are pleased. And from state lawmakers on both sides who just cannot seem to stop talking about it.

The bank unfurled the flag on June 1, at the request of a group of gay and lesbian employees in honor of gay pride month.

One day later, Bob Marshall, a Republican in the House of Delegates and an outspoken opponent on gay rights issues, was moved to write a letter to the bank’s president, saying that the flag was inappropriate for a quasi-governmental entity.

Gay and lesbian “behavior,” he wrote, “undermines the American economy, shortens lives, adds significantly to illness, increases health costs, promotes venereal diseases,” among other things.

That prompted a series of outraged rejoinders from gay rights advocates, including Adam Ebbin, a gay lawmaker from Northern Virginia who said that despite Mr. Marshall’s views, things had “gotten better for L.G.B.T. Virginians.”

In many ways, the controversy mirrors the changing demographics of this fast-growing state, whose traditions and habits are mixing with an influx of immigrants and young professionals in the northern part of the state.

Jim Strader, a spokesman for the bank, said the bank had fielded hundreds of phone calls and as many e-mails about the flag. The flag, he said, symbolizes “values of being open and inclusive,” and shows that the bank is “a place that doesn’t discriminate.”

That is important in Virginia, said James Parrish, executive director of Equality Virginia, because House Republicans have twice blocked a bill that would protect state employees from discrimination by sexual orientation.

Rainbows, which festoon entire neighborhoods in some cities during gay pride month, are hard to spot in Richmond, and Mr. Parrish said the flag outside the bank was “noticeable.”

“This is not Greenwich Village or Hell’s Kitchen,” he said.

One of the most popular arguments by the flag’s opponents was that the bank is a government institution and so should not be displaying a flag that promotes a cause. And now that they are, the argument goes, they have an obligation to other causes.

“We hope there would be an even hand played when a Christian requests the Christian flag in September during Christian Heritage month,” said Victoria Cobb, president of the Family Foundation, a conservative advocacy group.

Mr. Strader’s response is that the bank is in fact privately owned, as are all regional Federal Reserves, and that it considers requests by employees — this was the first one — but not the general public.

Mr. Marshall, 67, has been vocal on gay issues. He told The Washington Post last year that he was concerned gay troops would spread venereal disease. He was also a sponsor of Virginia’s ban on gay marriage.

Mr. Strader said the bank “anticipates” that it will respond to Mr. Marshall’s letter. Meanwhile, Mr. Marshall has written an opinion article that he said is scheduled to run on Sunday in The Richmond Times-Dispatch.

“I am sure this flag and or Fed story will not end here,” he said.

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#1. To: war (#0)

The bank unfurled the flag on June 1, at the request of a group of gay and lesbian employees in honor of gay pride month.

Ok,so this means if they have any skinhead employees they will be flying the Nazi flag on Hitler's birthday?

Or maybe the LaRaza flag for the brown racists,or the African flag for the Tan Klan,or the red cross for the white Kluxxers?

One of the most popular arguments by the flag’s opponents was that the bank is a government institution and so should not be displaying a flag that promotes a cause. And now that they are, the argument goes, they have an obligation to other causes.

BINGO! And being private instead of public (and HOW I wish they would publicize this more!) offers them even LESS protection because the above mentioned groups can sue them for discrimination if they refuse to fly their flags.

Equal protection under the law works even when it's not convenient for YOU.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-11   8:59:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#1)

It's just a flag Sneak...

war  posted on  2011-06-11   9:09:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#2)

It's just a flag Sneak...

That's not all it is. It also serves as a implication.

I am happy that this caused the feral reserve to "come out of the closet" and admit in public that they are a private bank,not a government organization,though. MAYBE that will cause a few people to say "HUH?"?

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-11   10:17:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#3)

That's not all it is. It also serves as a implication.

And thus you were opposed to the "confederate" flag being flown from the Capitol dome of the Statehouse in South Carolina.

war  posted on  2011-06-11   10:23:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#4)

And thus you were opposed to the "confederate" flag being flown from the Capitol dome of the Statehouse in South Carolina.

I haven't really thought about it,but my kneejerk reaction is that is ok because it is a historic flag that symbolizes a sovereign nation,not a idea.

And don't start in on that lame old shit about slavery. The south didn't create it and the War of Northern Aggression had nothing to do with the issue of slavery.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-11   10:32:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#5) (Edited)

I'll let you continue on with your fractured view of history.

But, the Confederate flag most CERTAINLY embodied an idea. The csA was never a nation.

war  posted on  2011-06-11   10:34:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: war (#6)

The csA was never a nation.

Yes,it was. They had their own political system,legal system,army,navy,etc,etc,etc. They even had their own money,which is worth more today than US money.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-11   14:11:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#7)

Yes,it was.

According to whom? What nation ever recognized the existence of the csA?

They even had their own money,which is worth more today than US money.

Only as a novelty item.

war  posted on  2011-06-11   14:25:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#8)

What nation ever recognized the existence of the csA?

I believe both France and England did,but it's been so long ago that I was researching this stuff that I am no longer certain.

Not that it matters. Something exists because it is,not because others recognize it. Only as a novelty item.

Yeah,how ironic is that. A novelty item is more valuable that what is alleged to be the real thing.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-11   20:32:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#9)

I believe both France and England did,but it's been so long ago that I was researching this stuff that I am no longer certain.

Neither one recognized the CSA as a sovereign country.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-12   12:42:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mininggold (#18)

Neither one recognized the CSA as a sovereign country.

Both were trading with the south,and running blockades to do so.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-12   21:36:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#20)

Both were trading with the south,and running blockades to do so.

That doesn't equate to recognizing a sovereign country.

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-13   12:26:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#26. To: mininggold (#25)

Both were trading with the south,and running blockades to do so.

That doesn't equate to recognizing a sovereign country.

You are right. It doesn't.

Then again,a sovereign country IS a sovereign country and doesn't need recognition by other countries to be what it is.

sneakypete  posted on  2011-06-13 19:10:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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