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Title: Howard Dean warns Democrats Sarah Palin could beat Obama in 2012
Source: The Hill
URL Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaig ... palin-could-beat-obama-in-2012
Published: Jun 5, 2011
Author: Alexander Bolton
Post Date: 2011-06-05 09:25:37 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 927
Comments: 10

Howard Dean, the former Democratic National Committee chairman who helped Democrats capture the White House in 2008, warns that Sarah Palin could defeat President Obama in 2012.

Dean says his fellow Democrats should beware of inside-the-Beltway conventional wisdom that Obama would crush Palin in a general-election contest next year.

“I think she could win,” Dean told The Hill in an interview Friday. “She wouldn’t be my first choice if I were a Republican but I think she could win.”

Dean warns the sluggish economy could have more of a political impact than many Washington strategists and pundits assume.

“Any time you have a contest — particularly when unemployment is as high as it is — nobody gets a walkover,” Dean said. “Whoever the Republicans nominate, including people like Sarah Palin, whom the inside-the-Beltway crowd dismisses — my view is if you get the nomination of a major party, you can win the presidency, I don’t care what people write about you inside the Beltway,” Dean said.

Dean spoke to The Hill the same day the Labor Department revealed the national economy added only 54,000 jobs in May and the national unemployment rate had risen to 9.1 percent.

Last month the private sector created 83,000 jobs, about a third the average for the previous three months.

Dean said he doesn’t think Palin will win the GOP nomination or would have the advantage over Obama in 2012. But he warned it is dangerous for Democrats to dismiss her.

Palin said Friday that she was "still weeks away" from making a decision about a presidential campaign.

“Anybody who gets the nomination could win the presidency,” he said. “Do I think she’s going to get the nomination? No. But that process is so difficult and really tests candidates in ways that no other process can."

Dean knows the rigors of presidential primaries first hand. In 2004, his unconventional campaign briefly put him in contention for the Democratic nod before the eventual winner, Sen. John Kerry (Mass.), pulled away.

“Anybody who survives the process can win the presidency,” he added.

Dean said Republicans made the mistake of underestimating Bill Clinton in the rest of the Democratic field in 1991 when former President George H.W. Bush seemed to have a strong advantage but the economy was still mired in recession.

“I can remember Bill Clinton, I think, was one of the seven dwarfs,” Cain said. “This goes on every four years and I think it’s best not to pay attention to that kind of talk.”

Bruce Cain, a political science and public policy professor and director of the University of California Washington Center, subscribes to the prevailing view that Palin would be a weak opponent against Obama.

“I stand with conventional wisdom that she’s way too flawed,” Cain. “Polls show that many women and independent voters aren’t happy with her.”

Cain believes the national economy must sink back into recession and unemployment swell to double digits before Palin becomes dangerous to Obama.

“If unemployment soars back up to double digits, voters will tune out any personal differences and be desperate for an alternative,” Cain said.

Dean thinks former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, Jr. (R), who recently finished serving as the Obama administration’s ambassador to China, would be the president’s most dangerous general-election opponent in 2012, a view shared by many Democrats.

“He is an independent. He is a moderate on some social issues and has a strong record as a governor and also has international experience that I think is lacking in every other candidate,” Dean said, comparing Huntsman to the rest of the GOP field.

Dean, however, doubts Huntsman, who has little national name recognition, could win the GOP primary.

Cain, of the University of California, said Dean’s view of Huntsman matches up with the conventional wisdom of many Democrats.

He says Huntsman would be especially strong in the general election if unemployment and growth numbers fail to improve.

“With Huntsman or a more credible candidate, Obama could be in trouble with unemployment in the 9 percent range and [economic] growth at one percent,” he said.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Dean thinks former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, Jr. (R), who recently finished serving as the Obama administration’s ambassador to China, would be the president’s most dangerous general-election opponent in 2012, a view shared by many Democrats.

Someone that no one has heard of or mentioned. That means they want to run against this Obama appointee.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-06-05   9:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Howard Dean, the former Democratic National Committee chairman who helped Democrats capture the White House in 2008, warns that Sarah Palin could defeat President Obama in 2012.

When a far left liberal says that Palin could win, it obviously means that Democrats think she would be easy to beat and so they want her nominated, right Stone?

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-06-05   12:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#2)

When a far left liberal says that Palin could win, it obviously means that Democrats think she would be easy to beat and so they want her nominated, right Stone?

I think that depends on who it is, some of them actually have a grasp of reality.... LOL......

Now do I think she can beat him..... As of now I would say no, a year from now..... maybe....

She is testing the waters with her bus tour and the trip into New Hampshire when Romney was declaring his candidacy was a small part of it..... Her trip there made the front page of the states largest newspaper and Romney was relegated to page 2......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-05   13:17:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

If the unemployment rate stays around 9% and the housing market continues to be in the toilet, Bozo the Clown will be able to beat Obama.

The GOP's #1 problem is that if they nominate RINO Romney with his disastrous healthcare system and ethanol subsidies, someone credible will run as an independent.

Democrats have a floor of about 40% of the electorate. As we saw in 92, the GOP's floor is somewhat lower. The GOP's ceiling is higher (look at 84) than the Democrats, but their floor is lower. Any serious independent candidate is likely to hurt the GOP.

The GOP better wise up and nominate someone who is credible on the economy.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-05   14:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: jwpegler (#4)

The GOP better wise up and nominate someone who is credible on the economy.

Wouldn't you agree that Mitt Romney is far more credible than Sarah Palin given their respective educations/business experiences?

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-06-05   21:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#3) (Edited)

Now do I think she can beat him..... As of now I would say no, a year from now..... maybe....

FWIW i had lunch with a friend of mine last week who is about as far right as they come (though she didn't buy into the birther garbage she is an avid follower of Limbaugh, and has attended numerous tea party events).

I asked her what she thought about Palin. Her reply was that Palin scared her and she thinks Palin is an idiot. She thinks that Conservatives have a golden opportunity to win next year and are going to completely blow it if they nominate someone like Palin.

I should add that the person I had lunch with runs a very successful and 10 year old growing small business

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-06-05   21:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#5)

Wouldn't you agree that Mitt Romney is far more credible than Sarah Palin given their respective educations/business experiences?

I want a candidate who has both has the right ideas and the right experience.

Romney has the right experience and the wrong ideas.

Palin has some of the right ideas and the wrong experience.

I was really disappointed that Mitch Daniels didn't run. He is boring as hell, but has both the right ideas and the right experience.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-05   22:15:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: jwpegler (#7)

I was really disappointed that Mitch Daniels didn't run. He is boring as hell, but has both the right ideas and the right experience.

I actually agree, he would have made this at least an interesting issues-based campaign.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-06-05   22:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#8) (Edited)

I actually agree, he would have made this at least an interesting issues-based campaign.

You and I agree on a lot, even though we come from different perspectives.

This is a good thing.

People like us could get together and solve the country's problems.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-05   23:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: jwpegler (#9)

People like us could get together and solve the country's problems.

yep, but it would make for lousy TV. :-)

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-06-05   23:21:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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