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Source: The NY Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/03/opinion/03krugman.html?_r=1
Published: Jun 3, 2011
Author: Paul Krugman
Post Date: 2011-06-03 12:10:35 by war
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Earlier this week, the Federal Reserve Bank of New York published a blog post about the “mistake of 1937,” the premature fiscal and monetary pullback that aborted an ongoing economic recovery and prolonged the Great Depression. As Gauti Eggertsson, the post’s author (with whom I have done research) points out, economic conditions today — with output growing, some prices rising, but unemployment still very high — bear a strong resemblance to those in 1936-37. So are modern policy makers going to make the same mistake?

Mr. Eggertsson says no, that economists now know better. But I disagree. In fact, in important ways we have already repeated the mistake of 1937. Call it the mistake of 2010: a “pivot” away from jobs to other concerns, whose wrongheadedness has been highlighted by recent economic data.

To be sure, things could be worse — and there’s a strong chance that they will, indeed, get worse.

Back when the original 2009 Obama stimulus was enacted, some of us warned that it was both too small and too short-lived. In particular, the effects of the stimulus would start fading out in 2010 — and given the fact that financial crises are usually followed by prolonged slumps, it was unlikely that the economy would have a vigorous self-sustaining recovery under way by then.

By the beginning of 2010, it was already obvious that these concerns had been justified. Yet somehow an overwhelming consensus emerged among policy makers and pundits that nothing more should be done to create jobs, that, on the contrary, there should be a turn toward fiscal austerity.

This consensus was fed by scare stories about an imminent loss of market confidence in U.S. debt. Every uptick in interest rates was interpreted as a sign that the “bond vigilantes” were on the attack, and this interpretation was often reported as a fact, not as a dubious hypothesis.

For example, in March 2010, The Wall Street Journal published an article titled “Debt Fears Send Rates Up,” reporting that long-term U.S. interest rates had risen and asserting — without offering any evidence — that this rise, to about 3.9 percent, reflected concerns about the budget deficit. In reality, it probably reflected several months of decent jobs numbers, which temporarily raised optimism about recovery.

But never mind. Somehow it became conventional wisdom that the deficit, not unemployment, was Public Enemy No. 1 — a conventional wisdom both reflected in and reinforced by a dramatic shift in news coverage away from unemployment and toward deficit concerns. Job creation effectively dropped off the agenda.

So, here we are, in the middle of 2011. How are things going?

Well, the bond vigilantes continue to exist only in the deficit hawks’ imagination. Long-term interest rates have fluctuated with optimism or pessimism about the economy; a recent spate of bad news has sent them down to about 3 percent, not far from historic lows.

And the news has, indeed, been bad. As the stimulus has faded out, so have hopes of strong economic recovery. Yes, there has been some job creation — but at a pace barely keeping up with population growth. The percentage of American adults with jobs, which plunged between 2007 and 2009, has barely budged since then. And the latest numbers suggest that even this modest, inadequate job growth is sputtering out.

So, as I said, we have already repeated a version of the mistake of 1937, withdrawing fiscal support much too early and perpetuating high unemployment.

Yet worse things may soon happen.

On the fiscal side, Republicans are demanding immediate spending cuts as the price of raising the debt limit and avoiding a U.S. default. If this blackmail succeeds, it will put a further drag on an already weak economy.

Meanwhile, a loud chorus is demanding that the Fed and its counterparts abroad raise interest rates to head off an alleged inflationary threat. As the New York Fed article points out, the rise in consumer price inflation over the past few months — which is already showing signs of tailing off — reflected temporary factors, and underlying inflation remains low. And smart economists like Mr. Eggerstsson understand this. But the European Central Bank is already raising rates, and the Fed is under pressure to do the same. Further attempts to help the economy expand seem out of the question.

So the mistake of 2010 may yet be followed by an even bigger mistake. Even if that doesn’t happen, however, the fact is that the policy response to the crisis was and remains vastly inadequate.

Those who refuse to learn from history are condemned to repeat it; we did, and we are. What we’re experiencing may not be a full replay of the Great Depression, but that’s little consolation for the millions of American families suffering from a slump that just goes on and on.

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#21. To: war (#0)

Mr. Eggertsson says no, that economists now know better

Economists know better, but the GOP is listening to the teahadist minority. Just today Boehner said that the jobs report was evidence that further spending cuts are needed, ignoring the fact that he claimed to have passed "historic" spending cuts not long ago - and the result is falling job growth. And then of course we had the extension of the Bush tax cuts plus additional tax cuts in December.

Never let facts get in the way of ideology though.

go65  posted on  2011-06-03   22:42:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: go65 (#21)

Just today Boehner said that the jobs report was evidence that further spending cuts are needed, ignoring the fact that he claimed to have passed "historic" spending cuts not long ago - and the result is falling job growth.

You're blaming falling job growth on spending cuts?

We The People  posted on  2011-06-03   22:54:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: We The People (#24)

You're blaming falling job growth on spending cuts?

Cutting spending will slow the economy. Economics 101 - See U.S. 1937, UK 2011

go65  posted on  2011-06-03   22:57:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: go65 (#26)

You're blaming falling job growth on spending cuts?

Cutting spending will slow the economy. Economics 101 - See U.S. 1937, UK 2011

Increasing spending when you're broke will do what?

What brought us to this point?

Keynesians Gone Wild!

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We The People  posted on  2011-06-04   11:30:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: We The People (#78) (Edited)

What brought us to this point?

Bankers stole the treasury by lending it out according to policies they lobbied for?

mininggold  posted on  2011-06-04   11:41:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: mininggold (#81)

Bankers stole the treasury by lending it out according to policies they lobbied for?

That isn't true at all.

Over the years the "The Community Reinvestment Act" of 1977 maintained an increasing perspective on local banks portfolios requiring the banks to reinvest at larger rates into their same communities. This, in turn, required lowering the standards for real estate loans (first time home buyers with the idea of their own family occupation).

The banks were literally PUSHED into this issue by the federal government even by GWBush.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-04   11:58:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo (#88)

Over the years the "The Community Reinvestment Act" of 1977 maintained an increasing perspective on local banks portfolios requiring the banks to reinvest at larger rates into their same communities. This, in turn, required lowering the standards for real estate loans (first time home buyers with the idea of their own family occupation).

The banks were literally PUSHED into this issue by the federal government even by GWBush.

The CRA didn't cause the financial crisis - private banks seeing the profit potential of making garbage loans to unqualified people, because they could then spin into CDS in an unregulated market caused the financial crisis.

go65  posted on  2011-06-04   12:00:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: go65 (#90)

The CRA didn't cause the financial crisis - private banks seeing the profit potential of making garbage loans to unqualified people, because they could then spin into CDS in an unregulated market caused the financial crisis.

I agree with you about some of the shady bundled re-packaging of the loans. But, that is not the trigger mechanism for the issue. It was CRA that created the requirement of lowering first-time homeowner's qualifications as those same requirements were strictly enforced by both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

And others, too, in the private markets. It was an artificial bubble in the housing market that went on and on pushing up demand while simultaneously requiring fewer qualifications of first time home buyers.

That demand drove the price valuations to incredible heights. Which in turn gave reason for many existing homeowners to refinance their own homes adding even more fuel to the fire in a latter collapsed market.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-06-04   12:09:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: buckeroo (#92) (Edited)

It was CRA that created the requirement of lowering first-time homeowner's qualifications as those same requirements were strictly enforced by both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

I've debated this to death, Freddie and Fannie had very little to do with the financial crisis, they controlled a very small percentage of junk loans, most were controlled by private institutions including countrywide. Less than 20% of subprime mortgages issued in the 2000's were subject to CRA.

read this when you get a chance:

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/hotproperty/ archives/2008/10/community_reinvestment_act_had_nothing_to_do_with_subprime_crisis.html

go65  posted on  2011-06-04   22:18:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: go65 (#134)

read this when you get a chance:

It’s telling that, amid all the recent recriminations, even lenders have not fingered CRA. That’s because CRA didn’t bring about the reckless lending at the heart of the crisis. Just as sub-prime lending was exploding, CRA was losing force and relevance. And the worst offenders, the independent mortgage companies, were never subject to CRA — or any federal regulator. Law didn’t make them lend. The profit motive did. And that is not political correctness. It is correctness.

That democrats and poor people by way of the CRA are responsible for the mortgage melt-down is a matter of faith, not fact or reason.

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