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Title: Christa and Danny Schultz Hate People Praying.
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/0 ... tion-ceremony/?test=latestnews
Published: Jun 3, 2011
Author: Todd Starnes
Post Date: 2011-06-03 07:12:04 by A K A Stone
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A federal judge has ordered a Texas school district to prohibit public prayer at a high school graduation ceremony. Chief U.S. District Judge Fred Biery’s order against the Medina Valley Independent School District also forbids students from using specific religious words including “prayer” and “amen.” The ruling was in response to a lawsuit filed by Christa and Danny Schultz. Their son is among those scheduled to participate in Saturday’s graduation ceremony. The judge declared that the Schultz family and their son would “suffer irreparable harm” if anyone prayed at the ceremony. Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott said the school district is in the process of appealing the ruling, and his office has agreed to file a brief in their support. “I’ve never seen such a restriction on speech issued by a court or the government,” Abbott told Fox News Radio. “It seems like a trampling of the First Amendment rather than protecting the First Amendment.” Judge Biery’s ruling banned students and other speakers from using religious language in their speeches. Among the banned words or phrases are: “join in prayer,” “bow their heads,” “amen,” and “prayer.” He also ordered the school district to remove the terms “invocation” and “benediction” from the graduation program. “These terms shall be replaced with ‘opening remarks’ and ‘closing remarks,'” the judge’s order stated. His ruling also prohibits anyone from saying, “in [a deity’s name] we pray.” Should a student violate the order, school district officials could find themselves in legal trouble. Judge Biery ordered that his ruling be “enforced by incarceration or other sanctions for contempt of Court if not obeyed by District official (sic) and their agents.” The Texas attorney general called the ruling unconstitutional and a blatant attack from those who do not believe in God -- “attempts by atheists and agnostics to use courts to eliminate from the public landscape any and all references to God whatsoever.” “This is the challenge we are dealing with here,” he said. “(It’s) an ongoing attempt to purge God from the public setting while at the same time demanding from the courts an increased yielding to all things atheist and agnostic.” Ayesa Khan, an attorney representing the student and his parents, told KABB-TV she was delighted in the judge’s decision. “It caused him a great deal of anxiety,” she said, referring to her teenage client. “He has gone to meet with the principal to try and talk in a civilized way about long-standing problems, and the school district has continued to thumb its nose.” The judge did grant students permission to make the sign of the cross, wear religious garb or kneel to face Mecca. But that’s not good enough for some students at the high school. “It’s just a big surprise that one kid can come in and change what’s been a tradition since Medina Valley started,” student Abigail Russell told KABB-TV. Fellow student Alicia Jade Geurin agreed. “At graduation, I would love to be able to speak from my heart,” she told the TV station. “But in this situation I feel my freedom of speech and my First Amendment is being infringed upon if I can’t say what I feel.” But the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, hailed the judge’s decision. “This is a high school graduation,” he told Fox News Radio. “It is not a church service.” Lynn was critical of the attorney general’s allegation that the ruling was an attempt to purge Christianity from the public square. “Any attorney general worth his salt would know that’s the issue and that this is not about promoting atheism,” he said. “That’s ludicrous.” “Part of this goes to the very heart of the unraveling of moral values in this country,” Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott told Fox News Radio, saying the judge wanted to turn school administrators into “speech police.” Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/02/prayer-prohibited-at-graduation-ceremony/#ixzz1OD6AdgHy
Poster Comment: Christa and Danny Schultz are worthless pieces of shit imo. Chief U.S. District Judge Fred Biery order is illegal and should be IGNORED. He should be removed from office, tarred and feathered. “I’ve never seen such a restriction on speech issued by a court or the government,” Abbott told Fox News Radio. “It seems like a trampling of the First Amendment rather than protecting the First Amendment.” Judge Biery’s ruling banned students and other speakers from using religious language in their speeches. Among the banned words or phrases are: “join in prayer,” “bow their heads,” “amen,” and “prayer.” He also ordered the school district to remove the terms “invocation” and “benediction” from the graduation program. “These terms shall be replaced with ‘opening remarks’ and ‘closing remarks,'” the judge’s order stated. His ruling also prohibits anyone from saying, “in [a deity’s name] we pray.” Should a student violate the order, school district officials could find themselves in legal trouble. Judge Biery ordered that his ruling be “enforced by incarceration or other sanctions for contempt of Court if not obeyed by District official (sic) and their agents.” The Texas attorney general called the ruling unconstitutional and a blatant attack from those who do not believe in God -- “attempts by atheists and agnostics to use courts to eliminate from the public landscape any and all references to God whatsoever.” “This is the challenge we are dealing with here,” he said. “(It’s) an ongoing attempt to purge God from the public setting while at the same time demanding from the courts an increased yielding to all things atheist and agnostic.” Ayesa Khan, an attorney representing the student and his parents, told KABB-TV she was delighted in the judge’s decision. “It caused him a great deal of anxiety,” she said, referring to her teenage client. “He has gone to meet with the principal to try and talk in a civilized way about long-standing problems, and the school district has continued to thumb its nose.” The judge did grant students permission to make the sign of the cross, wear religious garb or kneel to face Mecca. But that’s not good enough for some students at the high school. “It’s just a big surprise that one kid can come in and change what’s been a tradition since Medina Valley started,” student Abigail Russell told KABB-TV. Fellow student Alicia Jade Geurin agreed. “At graduation, I would love to be able to speak from my heart,” she told the TV station. “But in this situation I feel my freedom of speech and my First Amendment is being infringed upon if I can’t say what I feel.” But the Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, hailed the judge’s decision. “This is a high school graduation,” he told Fox News Radio. “It is not a church service.” Lynn was critical of the attorney general’s allegation that the ruling was an attempt to purge Christianity from the public square. “Any attorney general worth his salt would know that’s the issue and that this is not about promoting atheism,” he said. “That’s ludicrous.”
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Good decision. No one can be coerced by a government paid official or at a government paid for event into praying or listening to the prayer of others.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." It doesn't say anything about forcing people to pray and nobody in history has ever been irreparably harmed by hearing prayer. Another quality response from the sites premier Antichrist shrunken head w.a-r.
war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.
"BLESS US OH LORD WE PRAY..." At the word "us" it's game over...keep your blessings to yourself... Thanks...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." That's not true. In fact various Christian groups are forbidden to pray with other religions or with Christians they view as heretics. Various conservative Jews are also forbidden to pray with none Jews. In some cases Jews must segregate sexes in order to pray. For example: the Catholic Code of Canon Law of 1917 clearly stated: “It is not licit for the faithful to actively assist at or participate in ceremonies of non-Catholics” (canon 1258). Decretas of 1907 specified that Catholics could not pray or sing with heretics, schismatics or pagans. Catholics are instructed, "under pain of sin, to never participate in the liturgical acts of those who reject the one true Catholic Church." There are also examples of this kind of stricture from Protestants in regards to others as well - I did not mean to single out Catholics - they just provide an easier reference point online from me to source from. I wonder if all this communal prayer with different faiths has its origins in the Free Masonic influence of the early American nation - Free Masons accept as members all religions as equal but you have to have a faith in a god to start with - no matter what god. So this communal prayer of different faiths can be seen as something from that influence.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
-- Paul Ryan and others admire the Atheist Ann Rand. Do you like her too?
You hate the constitution and freedom of speech. The decision was wrong and has since been struck down. If you told me not to pray I would kick your ass then not pray for your recovery.
I don't know to much about her. I'm sure she has good points and bad ones.
-- Since you like Rand who is also a big Ann Rand supporter too, you should watch these tow short videos.
--GW Bush
#2. To: war (#1)
#3. To: Rudgear (#2)
It doesn't say anything about forcing people to pray
--GW Bush
#4. To: Rudgear, war (#2)
(Edited)
and nobody in history has ever been irreparably harmed by hearing prayer.
#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)
#6. To: war (#1)
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#8. To: A K A Stone (#7)
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