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Title: 77,000 federal workers paid more than governors
Source: AT
URL Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog ... _paid_more_than_governors.html
Published: Jun 2, 2011
Author: Rick Moran
Post Date: 2011-06-02 07:05:59 by CZ82
Keywords: None
Views: 15941
Comments: 29

77,000 federal workers paid more than governors

Rick Moran

It used to be a parent wanted their son or daughter to grow up and be a doctor, a lawyer, or even president - someone who would make a lot of money, live in a nice house, and have everything they wanted in material goods.

Today, a parent might dump that idea and hope their kid gets a berth on the gravy train of federal employment:

More than 77,000 federal government employees throughout the country -- including computer operators, more than 5,000 air traffic controllers, 22 librarians and one interior designer -- earned more than the governors of the states in which they work.

The findings, from a Congressional Research Service report requested by Sen. Tom Coburn, Oklahoma Republican, were released at a time when public workers' salaries and benefits are under scrutiny across the country as governments try to streamline.

CRS reviewed 2009 salary figures, the most recent available, and found 77,057 employees who earned more in annual pay than their respective governors. Of those workers, 18,351 were doctors -- the highest percentage. The second-highest total was for 5,170 air traffic controllers -- likely both front-line controllers and their supervisors.

In Maryland, 7,283 federal employees -- about 7 percent of all full-time federal employees in the state -- earned more than Gov. Martin O'Malley's $150,000 salary. Maryland was topped by Colorado, which in 2009 had 10,875 employees who made more than the $90,000 salary of the governor, Bill Ritter.

What the hell happened? It is mind boggling that we have now reached this point where it is so lucrative to work for the government. It used to be considered "public service." Now it's "Public Reaming" as unelected bureaucrats hold sway over huge swaths of our economy and our daily lives.

I don't buy the argument that we have to pay exhorbitant salaries to attract and retain good help. There is a higher calling that should be at work. No one should get rich at the taxpayer's expense - not politicians, and certainly not bureaucrats.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

More than 77,000 federal government employees throughout the country -- including computer operators, more than 5,000 air traffic controllers, 22 librarians and one interior designer -- earned more than the governors of the states in which they work.

Good. They do more important work.

Why do you assume the governor should be the head money maker? Is this a carry over from the Republican gimp like sex slave love affair with corporate CEOs so it is assumed a governor is like a CEO and should be the leading salary drawer of state employees?

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-02   11:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Godwinson (#1)

IIRC, Slick Willy made about $30K per year as governor of Arkansas.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-06-02   11:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Godwinson (#1)

Good. They do more important work.

I've never met a government worker who actually knew their job, so you have a FALSE impression of what they do/know!!!!

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-02   18:17:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82 (#3)

I've never met a government worker who actually knew their job, so you have a FALSE impression of what they do/know!!!!

Yea, those gold bricks in the Navy SEALs just stand around all day doing nothing. And I don't know how mail gets in my mail box for just a few cents. Must be magic.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-03   10:48:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Godwinson (#4)

Yea, those gold bricks in the Navy SEALs just stand around all day doing nothing. And I don't know how mail gets in my mail box for just a few cents. Must be magic.

I guess I should have been more specific, the military (for the most part) knows what it's doing, but the civilians don't..... And you picked a very good example of that, the USPS...... about 8 Billion in debt and it's non-government equivalents like UPS and FedEx are making a profit.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-03   16:03:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: CZ82 (#5)

nd you picked a very good example of that, the USPS...... about 8 Billion in debt and it's non-government equivalents like UPS and FedEx are making a profit.....

USPS is a needed cost for a country this size unless you want people in rural states to pay $20 bucks to get small packages/mail.

I wonder how many billions the fire dept costs us....

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-03   17:00:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Godwinson (#6)

USPS is a needed cost for a country this size unless you want people in rural states to pay $20 bucks to get small packages/mail.

So why can't the USPS get it's shit together?????

I have been told by a good friend of mine who is one of their Union stewards, that it's their contract that is the problem....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-03   17:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Godwinson (#6)

USPS is a needed cost for a country this size...

Wow... you're even more stupid today than usual.

Here's a quick counter-point to your idiotic statement: "E- mail."

...unless you want people in rural states to pay $20 bucks to get small packages/mail.

Interestingly, USPS often farms out package delivery... to Fedex and UPS- for a small markup "fee," of course.

See, gobsheit... this is why you lose every argument. You fall for the old bullshit propaganda, instead of pulling your head out of your ass, and thinking.

Postal mail versus email, as an example. Technology has bypassed (and effectively bankrupted) postal mail service, as we know it.

Oh... the USPS survives on government largess (i.e., taking MY money in the form of taxes, and giving it to under-performing, slovenly, lazy and surly "workers"), and the kickbacks gained by delivering "circular" advertising to my mailbox [which either lines the bottom of my trash-can or serves to mask my automotive projects from overspray, when needs be...]. I don't need them to receive bills, do banking, or even search for sales on items I need... Which means even the lowly advertising that lands in my mailbox is utterly unnecessary.

The USPS is a defunct government organization. Kinda' like Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, welfare, EDD, etc., etc., etc. ALL are bankrupt, all deserve to be declared insolvent, and put out of OUR misery.

Oh, BTW, if you think SS and Medicare/Medicaid, welfare and EDD programs should continue to be funded, I have no problem with you donating every dollar you can grub, to them.

But they'll be Hell to pay, if you try to rob MY wallet, or take the food out of MY kids' mouths, to feed your pet projects.

You're nothing more than a parasite, who needs to be burned off the body politic.

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mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-03   17:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: hondo68, cz82, jwpegler (#8)

Ping.

List of those unable to think:
mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.

Bumper sticker on DwarF's car:

Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-03   17:19:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: CZ82 (#7)

So why can't the USPS get it's shit together?????

http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2010/05/25/usps-made-268m-profit-in-april-before-650m-retiree- health-charge-turned-it-into-a-loss/ystem.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-03   17:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Capitalist Eric (#8) (Edited)

I live in a modern connected part of the country. If you want to stick it to the rubes out in Reagan country by charging them UPS and FedEx fees to get their land packages and mail - go for it. Let us see how the Red States like life without Blue state subsidies.

Right now the only way so called Red State Republicans can afford anything is with Blue State subsidies.

I support ending that because suddenly those Red Staters would be on their own and find out their views were fantasies and they would turn socialist in a heart beat the way they were back in the last century.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-03   17:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Capitalist Eric, hondo68, cz82, jwpegler, lucysmom, war, go65, Skip Intro (#9) (Edited)

Fedex and UPS

Where is Fedex and UPS in the US Constitution? The USPS is a Constitutional entity. Why are you strict construction conservatives against a constitutional entity? It is older than the Constitution and the founding of the nation. The US Mail is conservative in every way yet you scum attack it. Why attack it? Because you are not constitutionalists at all but Republican ideologues of some kind masquerading as conservatives.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-03   17:47:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Godwinson (#10)

http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2010/05/25/usps-made-268m-profit-in-april-before-650m-retiree- health-charge-turned-it-into-a-loss/ystem.

Your link aint worth shit.... It no workie....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-03   17:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Godwinson (#12)

Where is Fedex and UPS in the US Constitution? The USPS is a Constitutional entity. Why are you strict construction conservatives against a constitutional entity? It is older than the Constitution and the founding of the nation. The US Mail is conservative in every way yet you scum attack it. Why attack it? Because you are not constitutionalists at all but Republican ideologues of some kind masquerading as conservatives.

Get over yourself, you're not impressive.....

If the USPS was actually conservative it wouldn't have a Liberal affliction, being paid too much for not doing shit and almost bankrupt to boot...

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-03   17:57:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Godwinson (#12)

Where is Fedex and UPS in the US Constitution? The USPS is a Constitutional entity. Why are you strict construction conservatives against a constitutional entity? It is older than the Constitution and the founding of the nation.

True enough. Interestingly, on this one point, I agree.

You want to keep it? FINE. Let it come out of YOUR paycheck, NOT mine. I don't use postal mail... If I need a package delivered, I use UPS or FEDEX, because they're more efficient, more cost-effective, and the people that work in their offices aren't like USPS workers- surly, fat slobs (or foreignors who smell like they've not seen a bath in a few years).

The US Mail is conservative in every way yet you scum attack it.

When the constitution was ratified, it was the only way to deliver information. Technology has changed, relegated the USPS to obsolence.

Suppose the constitution mentioned that type-setting-machine manufacturing companies were to be protected, because they were necessary to allow freedom of the press.... When was the last time YOU saw a machine like that? For me it's been decades. I took of the Wall Street Journal printing operations in N.California... they don't even bother with such antiquities anymore... Would you still support subsidies to a manufacturer that services a market segment which no longer exists? Does that make sense?

Let's take a different tack: let them survive or fail ON THEIR OWN. NO subsidies, no tax dollars, no support of any kind. They do what they must to at least break even (or- gasp- make a profit!), or they die. In other words, get competitive, or get dead. If you pushed that approach, I'd be happy.

But if you want to subsidize an ineffective, bloated and bankrupt government agency- which is obsolete- with your own money, then Hey! More power to you!

Just don't expect me to support your pet-projects and black-holes with MY money.

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-03   18:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Capitalist Eric, Godwinson (#15)

When the constitution was ratified, it was the only way to deliver information. Technology has changed, relegated the USPS to obsolence.

Don't look now but Erica just stated that the USCON is a living, breathing document and parts of it have died...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-06-03   18:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Capitalist Eric (#9)

The USPS has stayed afloat by borrowing $12 billion from the U.S. Treasury. This year it will reach its statutory debt limit. After that, insolvency looms.

On Mar. 2, Postmaster General Patrick R. Donahoe warned Congress that his agency would default on $5.5 billion of health-care costs set aside for its future retirees scheduled for payment on Sept. 30 unless the government comes to the rescue. "At the end of the year, we are out of cash," Donahoe said.

www.businessweek.com/prin.../11_23/b4231060885070.htm

Socialist medicine, unions, and bureaucratic inefficiency are killing the post office (and the country). Gov will try to ream the peasants for more taxes of course, It's gonna get worse before the sheeple scream NO, and get down to real change. Soap box, jury box, ballot box, cartridge box... Where we at?


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

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Hondo68  posted on  2011-06-03   19:07:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: war (#16)

You fukwad LIAR.

It's time for a Constitutional amendment, to address the failures of the USPS.

I *never* said it "lives."

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mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-03   19:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Capitalist Eric (#8)

Here's a quick counter-point to your idiotic statement: "E- mail."

Yep. The entire concept of first class mail is obsolete.

The only thing I have put in the mail for the last 10 years or so are birthday cards and bill payments. I only pay one bill by mail today.

Mostly what shows up in my mailbox is junk mail. Dealing with it is irritating beyond belief.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-03   19:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: hondo68 (#17)

Soap box, jury box, ballot box, cartridge box... Where we at?

We're already beyond the ballot box. The overt corruption we see at all levels of government + the blatant police-state tactics + the TSA, make this all too clear.

After the '12 elections- maybe 2 years from now- the vast majority of the electorate will finally understand this.

THEN will be the ammo box.

List of those unable to think:
mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.

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Capitalist Eric  posted on  2011-06-03   19:54:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#17)

Soap box, jury box, ballot box, cartridge box... Where we at?

Cartridge box, .45 caliber.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-03   19:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: jwpegler, Capitalist Eric, war (#19)

Yep. The entire concept of first class mail is obsolete.

The USPS future will be in parcel post and if not for those rates internet shopping would crash as UPS and FedEx are more expensive. The US Mail has always been subsidized except for minor periods. Postage rates were there to defray costs not to generate a profit. If a strict constructionist is attacking the US mail then that shows they are liars in what they are.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-03   19:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: jwpegler (#19)

Mostly what shows up in my mailbox is junk mail. Dealing with it is irritating beyond belief.

95% of my mail goes right straight into the shredder......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-03   20:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Godwinson (#22) (Edited)

The USPS future will be in parcel post

The government has no business whatsoever competing with private industry in any area including delivering package.

The government should spin the post office off. Hire a CEO and CFO, create an initial public offering, and use the money to pay down the debt.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-03   20:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Godwinson (#22)

The USPS future will be in parcel post and if not for those rates internet shopping would crash as UPS and FedEx are more expensive.

Almost everything I buy off of the Internet is shipped by either FedEx or UPS.. Every once in awhile if I buy something on E-Bay it might be shipped by the USPS....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-03   20:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: jwpegler (#24)

The government has no business competing with private industry in any area including delivering package.

The Founding Fathers thought otherwise.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-06-03   20:06:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: CZ82 (#25)

Every once in awhile if I buy something on E-Bay it might be shipped by the USPS....

Which is also a pain in the ass. FedEx and UPS will leave a package on my porch. The Post Office justs leave a little yellow card telling me where I can pick it up. Of course, they are only open between 9 and 4:30 Monday through Friday, which makes it impossible for me to do so.

The FedEx store is open 24 hours. It's also 4 miles from my house, while the post office is 15 miles away.

F the stinking government.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-03   20:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: jwpegler (#27)

FedEx and UPS will leave a package on my porch.

I've got my UPS guy trained to put any packages I get (when someone isn't home) under the boat cover and leave a card stuck on the front door to let me know I have something....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-06-03   20:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: jwpegler (#27) (Edited)

FedEx and UPS will leave a package only if a release has been signed by the sender.

The USPS will leave a package as well if the sender waives a signature.

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