Police and firemen in Alameda, California watched a man drown on Monday after realizing they did not have proper certifications for water rescue, leaving them open to possible lawsuits if they attempted to save him.
The drowning victim, 53-year-old Raymond Zack, was apparently suicidal, according to a report from the scene. He waded out about 150 yards into cold waters off Crown Beach in Alameda and took about an hour to drown himself.
A crowd of about 75 gathered to watch the bizarre scene, which saw police and firemen just standing at shoreline watching helplessly. After the man had drowned, authorities couldnt even go into the surf to retrieve the body. They instead recruited a passer-by for the job.
City officials reportedly blamed the incident on budget cuts and said they would have a discussion about why Alameda, an island city, does not have proper authorization to rescue people from the waters surrounding it.
This video is from ABC 7 in San Francisco, Calif., broadcast May 30, 2011.
I said "He wants to not have to pay for a service he's not using, you stupid cunt."
Any comment on that? Didn't think so.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that childs born too. When we start debating a budget, lets make sure we dont cut 100,000 vaccines. Lets make sure weve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that babys born, oh no, we dont want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a womens uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
She didn't call you in the first time (my post#83), but once I point out she's avoiding the question, all of a sudden she's insulted and calling you in.
THIS (#77 forward) is how you shut these fakes down.
Good. Now we know your interest isn't in adult debate but in using abusive language to shut down people you disagree with.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that childs born too. When we start debating a budget, lets make sure we dont cut 100,000 vaccines. Lets make sure weve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that babys born, oh no, we dont want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a womens uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
Easy there...she's a very nice l;ady who likes ghost stories.
Thank you.
Until this morning MD was the only name in my bozo filter.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that childs born too. When we start debating a budget, lets make sure we dont cut 100,000 vaccines. Lets make sure weve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that babys born, oh no, we dont want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a womens uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
There is no magic about it. The overwhelming majority of people do whatever is needed to take care of themselves and their families. It's human nature. It is what enabled us as a species to crawl out of the caves, invent tools, and move ahead with our cars, planes, televisions, computers, iPhones and more. That's the bottom line.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
Until this morning MD was the only name in my bozo filter.
He sounds like another one of those Good Conservatives who hate the first amendment and 'think' women should give up the vote and not be able to own property.
He sounds like another one of those Good Conservatives who hate the first amendment and 'think' women should give up the vote and not be able to own property.
In other words, limiting freedom to himself and his ilk.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that childs born too. When we start debating a budget, lets make sure we dont cut 100,000 vaccines. Lets make sure weve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that babys born, oh no, we dont want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a womens uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
In other words, limiting freedom to himself and his ilk.
Yeah, I don't know what they are so scared of. Seeing big grown 'men' quivering like a bowl of jello every time they hear a little difference of opinion is a little disconcerting and more a tell on the future of this country than their constant rehashing of doomsday scenarios.
Seeing big grown 'men' quivering like a bowl of jello every time they hear a little difference of opinion is a little disconcerting and more a tell on the future of this country than their constant rehashing of doomsday scenarios.
It is a limbic brain response that only knows flight or fight without thought or reason.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that childs born too. When we start debating a budget, lets make sure we dont cut 100,000 vaccines. Lets make sure weve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that babys born, oh no, we dont want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a womens uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
Yet most profess to having served in the military which specifically teaches recruits how to deal with that response.
Oh my, are you suggesting...?
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that childs born too. When we start debating a budget, lets make sure we dont cut 100,000 vaccines. Lets make sure weve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that babys born, oh no, we dont want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a womens uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
I swear that whenever you two fat azzed gibbering morons get together the world actually gets DUMBER.
You two gibbering libTURDS are incapable of even a semblance independent thought.
You NEED the herd.
YOU can't live without it.
You certainly never have, have you?
Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.
Singapore's health care system promotes individual choice and responsibility. The U.S. system promotes dependency on one's employer and/or the government. This is the problem.
Singapore has a universal healthcare system where government ensures affordability, largely through compulsory savings and price controls, while the private sector provides most care.
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Singapore's system uses a combination of compulsory savings from payroll deductions (funded by both employers and workers) a nationalized catastrophic health insurance plan, and government subsidies, as well as "actively regulating the supply and prices of healthcare services in the country" to keep costs in check;
So mandates are a good idea? Government forcing citizens to save and providing subsidies along with price regulation are good approaches?
I thought you were a free market conservative, not a socialist?
"Thats because your basically and idiot." Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET
He sounds like another one of those Good Conservatives who hate the first amendment and 'think' women should give up the vote and not be able to own property.
Know why they call that section between a woman's breasts and her hips a waist?
Because you could easily fit another pair of tits in there!
Who the fuck do you think you're intimidating? You sound like one of those dykes from NOW.
So you think a system where the poor and the retired have no health care is a better one?
So who's fault is that other than their own????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Not everyone is going to get into or stay in the middle class o. There are innumerable factors many of which are beyond their control that could put them in that position. One possible scenario is that someone has a car accident that disables them temporarily (or permanantly) they lose their job and lose their coverage and then can no longer afford insurance.
In regards to the elderly most people live from pay check to pay check and couldn't possibly save enough money to pay for health insurance in their retirement years. Not that in a "free" market an insurance company would want to cover the elderly.
But if health care were like any other "service" it wouldn't matter if it were affordable or not. But unfortunately lacking it can mean life or death.
Not everyone is going to get into or stay in the middle class. There are innumerable factors many of which are beyond their control that could put them in that position. One possible scenario is that someone has a car accident that disables them temporarily (or permanantly) they lose their job and lose their coverage and then can no longer afford insurance.
That's the chance you take from the day you're born, life sucks sometimes....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
In regards to the elderly most people live from pay check to pay check and couldn't possibly save enough money to pay for health insurance in their retirement years. Not that in a "free" market an insurance company would want to cover the elderly.
And so they don't have access to Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
But if health care were like any other "service" it wouldn't matter if it were affordable or not. But unfortunately lacking it can mean life or death.
So.....
A lot of people don't have any supplementary insurance and don't seem to mind or care.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Yeah, wadda peach she is. Much like the southern woman who "complements" another by saying, "I'm amazed at how many seasons you can get out of a dress!"
When you falsely accuse someone of being a certain way, don't be surprised when they act that way toward you, instead of shrinking back on the defensive.
You and lucysmom had a pretty good time fingering each other upthread ascribing attributes to me which I don't possess.
Both of you need to grow up. When you lose an argument, you two turn to a gang-on personal attack, falsely accusing you opponent of things of which you expect him to shrink back, and go into defense mode.
I've told you by detailed opinion on this dozens of times before.
Right, you have repeatedly proclaimed your support for a system that "uses a combination of compulsory savings from payroll deductions (funded by both employers and workers) a nationalized catastrophic health insurance plan, and government subsidies, as well as "actively regulating the supply and prices of healthcare services in the country" to keep costs in check;"
"Thats because your basically and idiot." Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET
When you falsely accuse someone of being a certain way, don't be surprised when they act that way toward you, instead of shrinking back on the defensive.
You lose it all the time, you just don't like being reminded.