Police and firemen in Alameda, California watched a man drown on Monday after realizing they did not have proper certifications for water rescue, leaving them open to possible lawsuits if they attempted to save him.
The drowning victim, 53-year-old Raymond Zack, was apparently suicidal, according to a report from the scene. He waded out about 150 yards into cold waters off Crown Beach in Alameda and took about an hour to drown himself.
A crowd of about 75 gathered to watch the bizarre scene, which saw police and firemen just standing at shoreline watching helplessly. After the man had drowned, authorities couldnt even go into the surf to retrieve the body. They instead recruited a passer-by for the job.
City officials reportedly blamed the incident on budget cuts and said they would have a discussion about why Alameda, an island city, does not have proper authorization to rescue people from the waters surrounding it.
This video is from ABC 7 in San Francisco, Calif., broadcast May 30, 2011.
Here's the real headline: Government bureaucrats allow their customer to die.
Fire and rescue services can and should be privatized. There are many private rescue / ambulance services in the country and even some private fire services.
As a general rule, they do twice as good a job (using very measurable statistics) at half the cost of government services. In other words, they are 4 times better. Same with trash collection.
There is no reason whatsoever for the government to monopolize these things. Doing so puts us all at risk.
Nope. My views have been crafted based on: A.) years of personal experience working across 41 states and 26 countries, B.) a voracious amount of reading across numerous disciplines, and C.) debating people like you.
I've done my research. It's time that you do yours.
Nope. My views have been crafted based on: A.) years of personal experience working across 41 states and 26 countries, B.) a voracious amount of reading across numerous disciplines, and C.) debating people like you.
None of which provides anything but anecdotal "evidence", which is why you can't provide any real data to back up your assertions.
You should just stop now. You're embarrassing yourself and making me feel sorry for you.
which is why you can't provide any real data to back up your assertions.
This has nothing do to with you, but I have bent over backwards numerous times on this site gluing together evidence for my assertions so that I could try to show the opposition the facts.
Every single time, the opposition just dismissed the evidence and went back to their partisan talking points.
So, I'm not going to bend over backwards any more because there isn't any point in doing so.
I'm on this site because I learn things from certain people and I hope that they learn things from me. If the brain dead politicos like Lusysmom and Maddog don't learn squat, I really don't care.
This has nothing do to with you, but I have bent over backwards numerous times on this site gluing together evidence for my assertions so that I could try to show the opposition the facts.
Every single time, the opposition just dismissed the evidence and went back to their partisan talking points.
That's the way it is for everybody. No one here will ever be convinced of anything they don't already believe. That's why this is just a chat site for entertainment purposes only, and nothing more.
That's the way it is for everybody. No one here will ever be convinced of anything they don't already believe. That's why this is just a chat site for entertainment purposes only, and nothing more.
Yes, but I've also learned a few things from some people.
Why? Because I was open to learn. Most people are closed and won't learn anything.