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Title: Budget Cuts Force Calif. Police And Firemen To Watch Man Drown
Source: RAWSTORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2 ... -man-drown-due-to-budget-cuts/
Published: Jun 1, 2011
Author: Stephen C. Webster
Post Date: 2011-06-01 15:54:24 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 150575
Comments: 179

Police and firemen in Alameda, California watched a man drown on Monday after realizing they did not have proper certifications for water rescue, leaving them open to possible lawsuits if they attempted to save him.

The drowning victim, 53-year-old Raymond Zack, was apparently suicidal, according to a report from the scene. He waded out about 150 yards into cold waters off Crown Beach in Alameda and took about an hour to drown himself.

A crowd of about 75 gathered to watch the bizarre scene, which saw police and firemen just standing at shoreline watching helplessly. After the man had drowned, authorities couldn’t even go into the surf to retrieve the body. They instead recruited a passer-by for the job.

City officials reportedly blamed the incident on budget cuts and said they would have a discussion about why Alameda, an island city, does not have proper authorization to rescue people from the waters surrounding it.

This video is from ABC 7 in San Francisco, Calif., broadcast May 30, 2011.

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#3. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

firemen

Here's the real headline: Government bureaucrats allow their customer to die.

Fire and rescue services can and should be privatized. There are many private rescue / ambulance services in the country and even some private fire services.

As a general rule, they do twice as good a job (using very measurable statistics) at half the cost of government services. In other words, they are 4 times better. Same with trash collection.

There is no reason whatsoever for the government to monopolize these things. Doing so puts us all at risk.

jwpegler  posted on  2011-06-01   16:43:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: jwpegler (#3)

Here's the real headline: Government bureaucrats allow their customer to die.

Sort of like the private hospitals that were dumping their patients on skid row.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-06-01 17:54:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: jwpegler (#3)

Fire and rescue services can and should be privatized. There are many private rescue / ambulance services in the country and even some private fire services.

Right, and folks should have to pay if they want service. Remember that house that was allowed to burn down because the guy hadn't paid his dues? That's the kind of country we should strive to live in.

Collapse in the street, haven't paid your fire/rescue dues, tough luck. Just carry the leeches out to the trash.

Show up at an emergency room. Aren't insured? Too bad, go out on the street.

Elderly and can't afford you care? Life sucks, and it's time for you to die.

Have a child with severe birth defects that you can't afford to care for? Sucks to be you, put them out in the trash.

That, my friends is the conservative vision for america.

go65  posted on  2011-06-01 18:18:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: jwpegler (#3)

As a general rule, they do twice as good a job (using very measurable statistics) at half the cost of government services.

Does this rule have any basis in reality or are you just making it up?

Note that I'm not saying that government does a better job than private industry; I just wonder where you get your figures from.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-06-01 20:11:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: jwpegler (#3)

Fire and rescue services can and should be privatized.

Would you have to show proof of purchase first?

Of all the Kook ideas you have this one is tops. Police, Fire and Rescue are all legitimate government functions and the Framers thought so as well.

war  posted on  2011-06-01 20:28:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: jwpegler (#3)

As a general rule, they do twice as good a job (using very measurable statistics) at half the cost of government services. In other words, they are 4 times better. Same with trash collection.

Here's what privatized firefighting looked like:

In 1736 young Benjamin Franklin, already one of the most influential men in Pennsylvania, began urging readers of his "Pennsylvanian Gazette" to establish fire-fighting companies. Soon, six volunteer corps were established in Philadelphia. In 1752, insurance companies in the colonies began issuing plaques, or "fire marks," to be prominently displayed on building fronts as an incentive for volunteer fire fighters to save their insured buildings. These fire marks are extremely rare these days as most of them were made of lead and were melted to make ammunition for the Revolutionary War. With bonuses offered as incentives, rivalries ensued between groups. Marked homes and businesses were brawled over, while residences on the same street, with no fire mark, often burned to the ground.

http://www.afirepro.com/history.html

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