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Title: GOP govs move ahead on health exchanges
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Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/55856.html
Published: May 29, 2011
Author: Politico
Post Date: 2011-05-29 21:51:17 by go65
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Views: 7067
Comments: 16
A small but growing number of prominent, Republican governors — including Mitch Daniels and Haley Barbour — are taking the lead to shape a key component of the health care overhaul their party fought so hard to kill. It’s a delicate balancing act for Republicans who, on the one hand, oppose federal health reform, even challenging its constitutionality in federal court, and, on the other hand, are pragmatically trying to control as much of the implementation process as they can. In Indiana, Gov. Mitch Daniels issued an executive order that allowed the state to become one of just three to receive a multimillion dollar grant to establish a health exchange, the online insurance marketplaces that all states must eventually have if the reform law stands up in court. Wisconsin, under the leadership of Gov. Scott Walker, is one of six states to win an Early Innovator grant. While the grant was received under Walker’s predecessor, Gov. Jim Doyle, Walker has continued to use the resource, setting up the Office of Free Market Health Care that has prominently advertised its innovator status. And in a weird twist of politics in Mississippi, state agencies of Gov. Haley Barbour have relied on little- used statutory authorities to set up an exchange, reviving a Democratic-sponsored effort to do so through the Mississippi State Legislature.
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#1. To: go65 (#0)
ie Death Panels. Where you exchange your health for Corporate Profits... 8D
ie Death Panels. Nope. The death panels are Obama's Payment Advisory Board of 15 unelected bureaucrats who get to deny people treatment because of cost. The entire notion of 15 people making life and death decisions for 310 million people is absolutely totalitarian.
Nope. The Death Panels are the HMO/BigPharma 'accountants' telling the patients that risk/benefit analysis won't allow for 'X' procedure...
You are extremely confused as usually. There are about 200 health insurance companies in the U.S. There would be more if it weren't for misguided state laws that restrict competition. Those companies offer a wide variety of plans at a wide variety of prices. You and/or your employer choose what kind of coverage and at what cost is appropriate for your circumstances. That is very, very different than 15 bureaucrats dictating whether or not you and 310 million others get to have a treatment or not. Choice versus dictatorship. It's very clear.
If you have pre-existing conditions and are trying to buy an individual policy you may not be able to purchase insurance at any cost. Since pretty much every single person over 40 does have one or more pre-existing conditions there's a huge pool of people who will go without insurance at no fault of their own.
That's a function of having your employer, rather than you, own your healthcare policy. America is a very mobile society. When you move from one job to another you are at risk because the employer-based insurance system that was set up during WWII no longer serves the needs of the country. We could solve most of the problems with the current mess by putting people in charge of buying their own insurance. You and/or your employer could put money into a health savings account. You buy the policy you need / can afford. If you are low income or are retired, the taxpayers can subsidize in lieu of Medicare and Medicaid. This would clean the system up, increase choice, provide the right incentives, and bend the cost curve significantly. Singapore did this in the 1980s and it worked very well. Americans and their politicians aren't smart enough to have figured this out.
I am 52 and I don't have any pre-existing conditions. Neither does my 79 year old mother. It's called eating right and exercising, which most tuba-lard Americans have failed to do. Personal responsibility -- that's the answer to most of the country's problems.
Really? Never taken a prescription medication? Never been in a hospital? Both of those are pre-existing conditions as far as insurance companies are concerned.
I got my tonsils taken out when I was in the third grade.
Choice versus dictatorship. It's very clear. BWAHAHAHAHA BUWAHAHAHAHA So why have HMO's in the first place if Gov't is footing the tab... Sweet Baby Hesus, you work for Aetna: "Those companies offer a wide variety of plans at a wide variety of prices.." I don't go to the hospital now w/o contactiong my lawyer... No 1 cause of Bankruptcies: Med Bills: Meanwhile, Back at the Ranch: Largest Banks Profited by Borrowing From Federal Reserve, Lending to Federal Government June 2nd, 2011 Via: Huffington Post: A newly-released study from the Congressional Research Service bolsters claims that the nation’s largest banks profited off the Federal Reserve’s financial crisis-era programs by borrowing cash for next to nothing, then lending it back to the federal government at substantially higher rates." " CONGRESS MULLS CUTS TO FOOD STAMPS PROGRAM AMID RECORD NUMBER OF RECIPIENTS May 31st, 2011 Millions of broke, hungry, armed people? What could possibly go wrong? Besides, there are robotic, long range nuclear bombers to be built. Via: ABC News:
I demand the same Health Care that Congress/VA gets. Simple as that.....LMFAO 8D The Decline of the Empire proceeds apace...
Bull.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." None, nada, ZERO. It's called taking care of myself you fat, lazy shit.
Because Ted Kennedy and his idiot buddies in Congress created laws to push people into HMOs. Years later, the same group idiots turned on their own creation. Government created the healthcare mess we have today. The solution is get completely remove government from the process.
Chuckles...anything but... That said, asthma is a pre-existing condition, doofus. A heart murmur is a pre- existing condition. Spondelo is a pre-existing conitions. Taking care of yourself has nothing to do with those pathologies. As usual, you are absolutely CLUELESS about the terms you ar using.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Nixon & Haldeman HMO's Å8; Search Results 1. Capitalism Magazine - The History of HMOs Nov 1, 1999 ... Nixon's HMO Act was passed 25 years ago. Since then, the individual has become a prisoner of the tax code. Covered by an employer and herded ... www.capitalismmagazine.com › Science › Healthcare - Cached 2. YouTube - Nixon Launches the HMO's - What a SICKO Dec 29, 2007 ... the smoking gun for what HMO's are really designed for. www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QkgUkM0o6Q - Cached - Similar 3.
Health Exchanges
#2. To: mcgowanjm (#1)
Health Exchanges
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#3. To: jwpegler (#2)
#4. To: mcgowanjm (#3)
The Death Panels are the HMO/BigPharma 'accountants' telling the patients that risk/benefit analysis won't allow for 'X' procedure...
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#5. To: jwpegler (#4)
Those companies offer a wide variety of plans at a wide variety of prices. You and/or your employer choose what kind of coverage and at what cost is appropriate for your circumstances.
#6. To: Skip Intro (#5)
(Edited)
If you have pre-existing conditions and are trying to buy an individual policy you may not be able to purchase insurance at any cost.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#7. To: Skip Intro (#5)
Since pretty much every single person over 40 does have one or more pre-existing conditions
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#8. To: jwpegler (#7)
I am 52 and I don't have any pre-existing conditions.
#9. To: Skip Intro (#8)
Really? Never taken a prescription medication? Never been in a hospital?
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#10. To: jwpegler (#4)
That is very, very different than 15 bureaucrats dictating whether or not you and 310 million others get to have a treatment or not.
#11. To: All (#10)
#12. To: jwpegler (#7)
I am 52 and I don't have any pre-existing conditions.
--GW Bush
#13. To: war (#12)
Bull.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#14. To: mcgowanjm (#10)
So why have HMO's
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#15. To: jwpegler (#13)
(Edited)
It's called taking care of myself you fat, lazy shit.
--GW Bush
#16. To: jwpegler (#14)
So why have HMO's
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