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Title: Obama Economy Worse Than 1970s
Source: PU
URL Source: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/obama-economy-worse-than-1970s
Published: May 29, 2011
Author: Floyd Brown
Post Date: 2011-05-29 08:53:25 by CZ82
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Views: 125821
Comments: 113

Obama Economy Worse Than 1970s

Written on May 28, 2011 by Floyd Brown

The worst economic conditions in recent memory were during the Jimmy Carter era of stagflation. Stagflation was a term coined in the 1970s to describe high unemployment with high inflation. Stagflation is back. Translation: America’s middle class is getting poorer; a record number of middle class workers are out of work. If you are lucky enough to have a job, your wages aren’t going up, but you are facing higher prices for everything.

“Recent data suggests that the current economic recovery is both sluggish and slowing with unemployment stubbornly high,” this from a page one story in Investor’s Business Daily.

The Obama/ Bernanke partnership has been a bust.

The Fed is winding down Ben Bernanke’s experiment in money printing called “QE2”. He trumpets his success saying that QE2 has pointed the U.S. economy “in the right direction.” But did it really? It turns out that QE2 has created maybe 700,000 full-time jobs, but at a cost of about $850,000 for each job.

All QE2 did was create a boom in the stock market. Wall Street bankers reaped millions while the average investors barely madeback some small amount of the money that they lost during the 2008 crash.

We believe this boom is an easy money mirage, as MarketWatch.com reports, “But even the stock market boom hasn’t been what it appears. An analysis shows that most of the rise in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index under QE2 has simply been a result of the decline in the dollar in which shares are measured.Measured in hard currencies, the stock market boom has been much less impressive. In Swiss francs, the S&P has risen by just 8.4% since Aug. 27. In currencies like the Swedish krone and Australian dollars it’s even less. Measured in gold, the S&P 500 is up just 4.5%.”

QE2 has had little visible effect on the real economy. Over the same period, the number of part-time workers has gone down by 600,000. In other words, we’ve basically shifted 600,000 or 700,000 workers from part-time jobs to full-time jobs.

Marketwatch.com continues: “The percentage of the population in work is actually lower today – 58.4%, compared to 58.5% last August. The percentage of the work force in actual work, the so-called ‘participation rate,’ has fallen by half a percentage point.”

Housing is no better because of QE2, April housing starts fell 11%. Marketwatch.com says, “Housing is double-dipping. According to the National Association of Realtors, the average price of an ‘existing’ home was $177,300 in August, just before QE2. Now it’s $163,700 – or 8% less.Economic growth has slowed. It was 2.6% last summer. It’s a miserable 1.8% now.Meanwhile inflation has risen, from 1.2% before QE2 to 3.1% now.”

We all wish for better news, but Obama’s policies are pointing us in the wrong direction. Regulation of business is growing. One CEO of a mining firm we talked with said he is looking for new projects abroad. “I have been fighting for nearly a decade to open a new mine in Montana, and at every turn the government places roadblocks in my way. How am I to create any jobs?”

If Obama’s tax policies are enacted then we could see marginal income tax rates of 60% in some states. Obama clings to socialism and his new programs in healthcare and welfare. They all retard growth. Unemployment taxes are at record highs in most states and this further depresses hiring.

The Fed has invested nearly $2 trillion in Treasury debt since 2008. The investment hasn’t paid off, but when the relentless buying of US Treasury debt ends, we have no similar experience to guide us. One result could be even further collapse and a full blown depression.

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#1. To: CZ82 (#0)

America’s middle class is getting poorer; a record number of middle class workers are out of work.

The middle class has been getting poorer (while the rich have been getting richer) since 1975.

Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. CIA World Factbook

But darn, we could always live on credit.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-29   10:05:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#1)

The middle class has been getting poorer (while the rich have been getting richer) since 1975.

Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. CIA World Factbook

But darn, we could always live on credit.

Doesn't change the simple undeniable fact, goofy.

Owe-bama's economic policies, such as they are, have failed spectacularly.

And thats why he's going to get fired in a landslide next year.

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-29   11:03:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Badeye, Fred Mertz, A K A Stone, hondo68, Fred Mertz, Godwinson, go65, war, no gnu taxes, Skip Intro, ferret mike, jwpegler, brian s, mcgowanjm, Capitalist Eric, Mininggold (#3)

Owe-bama's economic policies, such as they are, have failed spectacularly.

For youse guys who long for the good old days, the longest recession in US history began in October 1873 and ended March 1879, a total of 65 months. The Great Depression was 43 long months - this recession began December 2007 and ended June 2009, 18 months. Since 1865 we've had 7 recessions that have lasted longer than 18 months. Taken in perspective, Obama's economic policies look pretty successful.

www.nber.org/cycles.html

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-29   11:48:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: lucysmom (#5)

"For youse guys who long for the good old days, the longest recession in US history began in October 1873 and ended March 1879, a total of 65 months. The Great Depression was 43 long months - this recession began December 2007 and ended June 2009, 18 months. Since 1865 we've had 7 recessions that have lasted longer than 18 months. Taken in perspective, Obama's economic policies look pretty successful."

Agreed. Which is one reason he will get my vote again in November 2012.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-29   19:33:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

Agreed. Which is one reason he will get my vote again in November 2012.

Isn't 4 years of baby murders on your hands enough? You're not anti abortion. Quit pretending.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-30   0:21:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#29)

You are for the death penalty thus are anti-life. Quit pretending you are anything else.

Your black and white logic cuts both ways.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-30   2:38:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

You are for the death penalty thus are anti-life. Quit pretending you are anything else.

Your black and white logic cuts both ways.

So are you for or against the death penalty?????

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-30   8:20:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: CZ82, Ferret Mike (#32)

You are for the death penalty thus are anti-life. Quit pretending you are anything else.

Your black and white logic cuts both ways.

So are you for or against the death penalty?????

Ferret is against the death penalty. You could have a man kill 50 women and children on video. He could cut all their heads off. Then kill 100 ferrets. Ferret Mike would see the video and still be against the death penalty.

He votes for a creature that kills innocent life in the womb. But if someone murdered and it is clear. He still would let them live while Obama is enforcing the death of millions of little cute babies.

He would smile the whole time too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-30   9:41:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#34)

He votes for a creature that kills innocent life in the womb. But if someone murdered and it is clear. He still would let them live while Obama is enforcing the death of millions of little cute babies.

He would smile the whole time too.

Still the same Stone. Unable to argue the facts so you tell the whole world why Tea Partiers are so damned stupid. Your favorite country had 19000+ had abortions last year, with at least 5000 more under the table and countless more coming here to have the procedure. I have never heard one word from you condemning them.

Here's a list of the countries you can move to:

"Abortion illegal in all circumstances or permitted only to save a woman's life.

South America: Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Venezuela,

Sub-Saharan Africa: Angola, Benin, Central African Rep.Chad, Congo, C33;te d'Ivoire, Dem. Rep. of Congo, Gabon, Guinea- Bissau, Kenya, Lesotho, Madagascar, Mali, Mauretania, Mauritius, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Somalia, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda. Middle East and North Africa: Afghanistan, Egypt, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Oman, Sudan (r), Syria, United Arab Emirates, Yemen.

Asia and Pacific: Bangladesh, Indonesia, Laos, Myanmar, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Sri Lanka.

Europe: Ireland, Malta, Vatican City"

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_wha...on_illegal#ixzz1NqcqNG3P">wiki.answers.com/Q/ In_wha...on_illegal#ixzz1NqcqNG3P

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-30   11:02:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mininggold (#39)

Tea Partiers are so damned stupid.

Is that the best you can do?

Also your abortion numbers are way off. We had way more abortions than you mentioned.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-30   11:11:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#43)

so your abortion numbers are way off. We had way more abortions than you mentioned.

There's only one country you never criticize. It's not the USA.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-30   11:14:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: mininggold (#44)

There's only one country you never criticize. It's not the USA.

Did Jews take your lunch money when you were a little girl?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-30   11:16:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#47)

Did Jews take your lunch money when you were a little girl?

Actually I took my lunch to school but it definitely was not kosher. Sorry, I can see I dissed your idols again.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-30   11:23:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#54. To: mininggold (#50)

I knew he wouldn't admit to being wrong...

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