The Defense Authorization Act or H.R. 1540, aka The Forever War Act of 2012, was overwhelmingly approved by the House of Representatives earlier today on a vote of 322 to 96.
The Senate will now vote on its own version and then the two bills will need to be reconciled before going to Barry Obama for his signature into law.
The law authorizes the United States to use military force anywhere it says there are terrorists, including within the borders of our own country. It represents the largest hand-over of unchecked war authority from Congress to the executive branch in modern American history.
The founders were seriously opposed to handing this much power over to executive, fearing tyranny. If enacted into law, this provision will make Obama a dictator who can wage war without the consent of the American people.
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And Barry Sotero-bama wonders why people cling to their bibles and guns.
#2. To: hondo68, A K A Stone, Badeye, jwpegler, Capitalist Eric (#0)
And Barry Sotero-bama wonders why people cling to their bibles and guns.
I can guarantee you that between the statements of you, Stone Boofer and Erica and, occasionaly, pegler...no one with a minimal sense of intelligence so wonders.
America...My Kind Of Place...
"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." --GW Bush
This is why Ron Paul is great. He tell is it like it is.
I bet Romney would disagree and support more tyranny.
I don't deny Ron Paul routinely makes some excellent points, Stone. But the fact is he's still a kooks kook, and simply doesn't know how to keep EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THOUGHT that occurs to him from passing out his mouth.
Hence appearing to support legalizing heroin, for just one recent example.
(I don't want to debate 'what he actually meant' on that one. That in itself proves my point he's unelectable outside of his weird district. You ALWAYS have to explain 'what he really meant' after a Ron Paul interview if you are a member of the cult of Paul lol).
I don't believe Romney would be bombing the hell out of Libya today, or last month, or next month, based on whats occuring internally, and I don't believe you have anything to support suggesting otherwise.
This is why Ron Paul is great. He tell is it like it is.
I bet Romney would disagree and support more tyranny.
Agreed about Ron Paul.
Unfortunately, I must submit that there isn't a single other potential GOP nominee (aside from Ron Paul) that would significantly deviate from your observation about Romney.
I think we're in the final days of the Republic. We have dark times ahead.
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But the fact is he's still a kooks kook... he's unelectable outside of his weird district...
Disinformation Rule #5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as kooks, right-wing, liberal, left- wing, terrorists, conspiracy buffs, radicals, militia, racists, religious fanatics, sexual deviates, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
List of those unable to think: mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.
To: hondo68, A K A Stone, Badeye, jwpegler, Capitalist Eric
And Barry Sotero-bama wonders why people cling to their bibles and guns.
DwarF: I can guarantee you that between the statements of you, Stone Boofer and Erica and, occasionaly, pegler...no one with a minimal sense of intelligence so wonders.
Really?
I don't aspire to take away the rights of others, in the name of "equality." I don't push the police-state agenda. I DO push the rights of the individual to be left alone, and have the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. I push the right to privacy, and the right to be free of government corruption. I don't advance the agenda of over-arching control by a nanny-state (socialist) government. I support the original Constitution, in its entirety (NOT the bullshit "interpretations" provided by a corrupt SCOTUS.
YOU, on the other hand, are a traitor. You promote the destruction of everything that this nation was founded upon, and what made it great. You and your ilk support a marxist traitor who sits in the White House. He makes an ass of himself, he's corrupt and vile... And you gladly kiss his ass...
Those who hold their bibles and guns tight, understand what you and all like you, are doing... And Soetero knows that the population is awake. That's the reason for the police-state tactics... to try to cow the population into submission.
But I have news for you: It won't work.
You have no idea how badly you've underestimated America- REAL America.
But hey, just keep going the way you're going... and you'll be introduced to reality, in a most unpleasant fashion.
Oh, and BTW, I know you were trying to use a combination of the following Rules of Disinformation:
17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can argue with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you cant do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how sensitive they are to criticism.
You're so transparent, you're actually funny to watch, as you wildly gyrate through the various rules, trying to find something that'll stick...
Thanks for the laugh.
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Disinformation Rule #20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution.
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You really don't need the fourth grade graphics here.
Yeah, I see your point. I put them up, simply to annoy the leftists/socialists, and jab a finger in the DwarF's eye, every day.
He can't win the nomination. And he can't win a national election.
Perhaps. If he's unable to win, it's not an indication of his being unfit (in whatever manner you choose to judge) as a candidate... but a reflection on how the dull stupidity of the electorate at large, truly is.
Never again will I fall into having to vote for the "lesser of two evils," because I would still be giving tacit approval to evil. If I have to write in the name of the candidate that earns my vote, then I will.
I refuse to participate in two-party charade.
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