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Title: So this is what GOP overreach produces
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Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/ ... 20%28Not%20Premium%29_7_30_110
Published: May 24, 2011
Author: Steve Kornacki
Post Date: 2011-05-26 02:46:01 by lucysmom
Keywords: None
Views: 25547
Comments: 51
Let’s start by getting all of the caveats out of the way about misinterpreting the results of the special House election that Democrat Kathy Hochul just won in Western New York. There were local issues at work that mean nothing outside of the Buffalo area. There was a third candidate in the race -- a one-time Democrat who ran under the Tea Party banner -- whose presence probably hurt the Republican candidate, Jane Corwin, more than it hurt Hochul (although the disparity is probably not nearly as severe as Republicans will claim). And there was probably a basic difference in candidate quality: Hochul was easier to like and seemed to run a better campaign than Corwin. All of these things are true, but none of them erase the single most significant message of Hochul’s victory: The backlash against Tea Party governance is real. snip But something important has changed in the last six months. When they retook the House in their midterm landslide, Republicans ceased to be the default protest vehicle for voters. This was the role they played for all of 2009 and 2010, and it was easy. With Democrats running the White House and Congress and with economic anxiety soaring, all Republicans had to do was shake their heads and ask voters, "Is this the kind of change you can believe in?" They didn’t need a platform, they didn’t need strong candidates, and they didn’t need much money. In the climate of 2010, any generic Republican could win just about any competitive race. But as the majority party in the House, Republicans need to present a platform. And because their base is so inflamed with anti-Obama hysteria and so insistent on absolute ideological purity, the Republicans running the House are constricted in the agenda they can pursue. In several high-profile GOP primaries in 2010, insufficiently pure Republican candidates were rejected by the base. Keeping this base from revolting again in 2012, Speaker John Boehner and his fellow Republicans realized when they took over, would be one of their main challenges -- something they’d have to do even if it meant taking some positions that aren’t popular with non-GOP voters.
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#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)
I never said that Stone. I'm pretty open about my voting history: 08 - Obama I did contribute to Ron Paul in 2008.
"Thats because your basically and idiot." Must have been skip intro. I get your two views confused sometimes. Because they are very similar.
Wisconsin Republicans have made it harder to vote while making it easier to conceal and carry guns in public.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
Wisconsin Republicans mistook a protest vote for a mandate.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
How is ideological purity like Reagan's big tent?
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
Carrying a gun in public is a constitutional right.
The anti-gay, anti-abortion and pro-gun rights party?
All moral issues. Do you have none Fred?
I believe politics and religion don't mix well together. It's because of those dang Baptists that about 70 counties in Kentucky are dry - no booze.
You left out anti-tax, and anti-union.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
It's because of those dang Baptists that about 70 counties in Kentucky are dry - no booze. They mix just fine. I don't drink to much. But when we go to Lake Cumberland. If we need beer we get it before we get there. Russel County. Speaking of KY. How is the level if the lake where they repaired the dams? I am thinking about going down there soon.
So is voting.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
When I was a kid, I used to love going to "church" in places like Greenbackville, Virginia and other places down DelMarVa into Tidewater...the preachers would call everyone out on what he had seen them do the previous week... It was nice to see someone else get yelled at for their fuck ups for a change...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." For president? If so where?
Its amusing how some desperately want to believe this was the result of Ryan's plan. Its not. No more than O'Donnell losing in Delaware last November was a referendum on the GOP. Republicans ran a candidate that simply wasn't ready for prime time. Combined with the laughable stalking horse Dem that tried to claim he was a Tea Party candidate, it was enough to elect a lame Dem. big deal.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
IIRC Skip said he voted for Ron Paul.
Exit polls be damned...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Ryans plan is to timid. I wonder why they are building him up as some kind of defecit hawk. They need to replace that light weight who voted for prescription drugs with a real man like Rand Paul.
Do you think you have the Constitutional right to impose your morals on those who don't share them?
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
Do you think you have the Constitutional right to impose your morals on those who don't share them? Last I checked, murder, stealing, and beating someone up was illegal. All moral issues. The law is supposed to be moral.
Sorry, I have no idea. But I'll be betting Sally Sally in the 8th race today at Churchill Downs.
No such thing as "my morals" or "your morals". It is moral and immoral. We know right from wrong. Some will try to pretend and spin. But they are liars.
"The debate over whether Medicare mattered more than a third-party candidate who split the Republican vote is mostly a partisan Rorschach test,” said Steven Law. “What is clear is that this election is a wake-up call for anyone who thinks that 2012 will be just like 2010. It’s going to be a tougher environment, Democrats will be more competitive, and we need to play at the top of our game to win big next year" ~snip~ FWIW, Steve Law is the President of American Crossroads which is a conservative group that was one of the biggest spoenders int hat race. But Boofer knows better...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." huh?
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
My dad said it would take a very long period of time to get the lake back to level. I was hoping he was wrong. I enjoy Lake Cumberland.
I wonder why they are building him up as some kind of defecit hawk. The problem, the 'immediate problem' isn't Medicare, its Medicaid...followed by the record number of Americans on foodstamps. And its negative 'force multiplier' is the record unemployed receiving UE benefits plus the record number unemployed and no longer ELIGIBLE for UE Benefits - they aren't contributing tax revenue at any level nor spending. Thats why the growth number for the 1st quarter is 1.8% The implications are staggering. I wish I had been wrong last year when I predicted the economy would be much worse this year than last year. I really do. The only real question is how bad will it be between today and the day the new POTUS takes over in January of 2013.
Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao
huh? I was pointing out there is no constitutional right to vote for president.
Actually I voted for nobody for pres last time.
Do you have a boat? Which activities do you enjoy there? Fishing, boating, camping, chasing loose wimmins?
I'll have to give you credit for not voting for Obama. You're not considering voting for him this time around are ya?
I like taking the kids there. We usually went to Lees Ford Marina. It was going downhill though. The hotel rooms. I like fishing, jet skiing and swimming. I just really like getting away with the family and hanging out. It is a very pretty state.
Well...let's hope that your writing gets better anyway...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." I doubt that I'll vote for anybody this time too. It really doesn't matter anyway, since my state always votes the same way so my vote is totally meaningless.
The GOP win in the midterm election was an impressive comeback vote but it also seems to be that the GOP shot it's last load to win that big. The GOP won by going crazy. They mustered into their ranks the last vestiges of the kooks and cranks and racists. In a midterm election where the vote is local, the crazies don't stand out so much and thus the media did not play that up as much. But in a national race, it is one on one and the GOP candidate can't be seen embracing birthers, racers and other nutsos. They were trying to rebrand the GOP into a a fiscal conservative party and overreached on SS. They did so because the GOP lives in an echo chamber where talk about doing away with hated FDR's SS program is common overt talk but denied when talking to a mixed crowd. If the GOP loses the next election and is knocked out of congressional power we will see change in the GOP. I predict the Rockefeller wing of the GOP will re-emerge which at this point has had enough of the jihadis within their ranks. These kooks and cranks were useful when the Democrats had overwhelming majorities and special interest voting blocks on their side but now they have become a hinderance to the point the GOP can't even denounce birthers as the kooks they are because the kooks are a major voting block.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
That would be a disaster. No reason to even vote if that happened. That is what you are hoping happens. I don't think it will.
Just guessing out what will happen if Obama destroys the kook wing of the GOP in 2012. When will the GOP accept that their ideology since Reagan does not work? Trickle Down does not work, cutting taxes does not raise revenues, military spending is a hinderance on prosperity, free trade did not work out so well for the majority of Americans and so on. I mean 30+ years now of Reagan era ideology has failed. All that is left is hatred of gays and Mexicans in the GOP and that's about it.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
What has that got to do with requiring a photo id to exercise one's right vote?
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
Either the GOP will change or become irrelevant.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
Indeed. List of those unable to think: Bumper sticker on DwarF's car: Says the guy who never developed beyond the anal stage.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
snicker
You were in denial earlier this year or late last year. When you said you didn't vote for him and weren't a supporter of his.
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Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET
#12. To: go65 (#11)
#13. To: war (#2)
#14. To: go65 (#4)
The trend is growing, Obama's popularity is up, and look at Wisconsin where a majority of citizens of that state now favor recalling their teahadist governor.
#15. To: A K A Stone (#3)
No it would bring waves of new voters. There would be a clear difference that way. You know, kind of how Reagan won 49 states.
#16. To: lucysmom (#13)
#17. To: lucysmom (#1)
Will ideological purity drive the GOP to extinction?
#18. To: Fred Mertz (#17)
The anti-gay, anti-abortion and pro-gun rights party?
#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)
#20. To: Fred Mertz (#17)
The anti-gay, anti-abortion and pro-gun rights party?
#21. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
I believe politics and religion don't mix well together.
#22. To: A K A Stone (#16)
#23. To: Fred Mertz (#19)
(Edited)
--GW Bush
#24. To: lucysmom (#22)
So is voting.
#25. To: A K A Stone (#3)
#26. To: A K A Stone, Skip Intro (#12)
Must have been skip intro. I get your two views confused sometimes. Because they are very similar.
#27. To: Badeye (#25)
Its [sic] amusing how some desperately want to believe this was the result of Ryan's plan.
--GW Bush
#28. To: Badeye (#25)
#29. To: A K A Stone (#18)
All moral issues.
#30. To: lucysmom (#29)
All moral issues.
#31. To: A K A Stone (#21)
How is the level if the lake where they repaired the dams?
#32. To: lucysmom (#29)
your morals
#33. To: Badeye (#25)
(Edited)
--GW Bush
#34. To: A K A Stone (#24)
For president? If so where?
#35. To: Fred Mertz (#31)
Sorry, I have no idea.
#36. To: A K A Stone (#28)
Ryans plan is to timid.
#37. To: lucysmom (#34)
For president? If so where?
#38. To: mininggold, A K A Stone (#26)
IIRC Skip said he voted for Ron Paul.
#39. To: A K A Stone (#35)
I enjoy Lake Cumberland.
#40. To: Skip Intro (#38)
#41. To: Fred Mertz (#39)
Do you have a boat? Which activities do you enjoy there? Fishing, boating, camping, chasing loose wimmins?
#42. To: Badeye (#36)
The only real question is how bad will it be between today and the day the new POTUS takes over in January of 2013.
--GW Bush
#43. To: A K A Stone (#40)
You're not considering voting for him this time around are ya?
#44. To: go65, lucysmom, AKA Stone (#4)
The trend is growing, Obama's popularity is up, and look at Wisconsin where a majority of citizens of that state now favor recalling their teahadist governor.
#45. To: Godwinson (#44)
I predict the Rockefeller wing of the GOP will re-emerge which at this point has had enough of the jihadis within their ranks.
#46. To: A K A Stone (#45)
(Edited)
#47. To: A K A Stone (#37)
I was pointing out there is no constitutional right to vote for president.
#48. To: Godwinson (#44)
If the GOP loses the next election and is knocked out of congressional power we will see change in the GOP.
#49. To: A K A Stone (#12)
Must have been skip intro. I get your two views confused sometimes. Because they are very similar.
mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.
#50. To: Capitalist Eric (#49)
mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.
#51. To: Godwinson (#44)
They mustered into their ranks the last vestiges of the kooks and cranks and racists.
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