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Title: Tornado, Storms Kill 4 Near Oklahoma City
Source: CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/05/24/severe.weather/index.html?hpt=T1
Published: May 24, 2011
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2011-05-24 22:03:55 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 5675
Comments: 35

(CNN) -- A deadly string of tornadoes and thunderstorms rampaged Tuesday through central Oklahoma, killing at least four people, injuring dozens and destroying homes and vehicles, officials said.

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#3. To: go65 (#0)

Storm just passed over us here in Tulsa. Tornado on the ground near Haskell.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-05-24   22:08:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Rudgear (#3)

Storm just passed over us here in Tulsa. Tornado on the ground near Haskell.

stay safe.

go65  posted on  2011-05-24   22:28:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: fred mertz, rudgear, skip intro, war, ferret mike, godwinson, lucysmom (#5)

From weatheronline.com:

A record breaking spring of death and destruction continues in the US with more killer tornadoes and storms striking a large part of the country. There have been approximately 1,000 tornadoes so far this year; in a typical year, the U.S. sees a total of 1,274 for January - December. We're on track to double that. The highest number of tornadoes recorded in a single year were 1,817 in 2004.

go65  posted on  2011-05-25   0:23:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65, fred mertz, rudgear, skip intro, war, ferret mike, lucysmom (#6)

From weatheronline.com:

A record breaking spring of death and destruction continues in the US with more killer tornadoes and storms striking a large part of the country. There have been approximately 1,000 tornadoes so far this year; in a typical year, the U.S. sees a total of 1,274 for January - December. We're on track to double that. The highest number of tornadoes recorded in a single year were 1,817 in 2004.

Ironic as how global climate change is striking at the heart of Republican Rube states.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-25   9:17:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Godwinson (#12)

Ironic as how global climate change

God, you are a fucking idiot.

Tornadoes are actually a sign of unusually COOL weather, or most correctly cool air masses colliding with warm masses. It's strictly a weather phenomenon. AGW would cause fewer such events, not more. Tornadoes are almost unheard of in the tropics.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-25   9:22:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: no gnu taxes (#14)

Like I said, Republican rubes don't do science and are now having to deal with it or die....

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/usa/US-Extreme-Weather-Consistent-with-Climate-Change- -122577569.html

US Extreme Weather Consistent with Climate Change

Scientists say storms likely to become more frequent and intense

Also:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2011/04/tornadoes-severe-weather- climate-change-global-warming/1

Two separate studies in 2007 reported that global warming could bring a dramatic increase in the frequency of weather conditions that feed severe thunderstorms and tornadoes by the end of the 21st century.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-25   9:31:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Godwinson (#16)

Here's the science of the issue, moron

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Today’s Tornado Outlook: High Risk of Global Warming Hype

After the catastrophic death toll from the Joplin, MO tornado, which now stands at 117, we are no doubt in for more claims — dutifully amplified by the news media — that ‘climate change’ must somehow be at least partly responsible for this Spring’s wild weather.

And, to some extent, I’m inclined to agree. That is, if they are talking about the natural cooling effects of La Nina and the tendency for tornado outbreaks to be associated with cooler (not warmer) climate conditions.

But I suspect that’s just the opposite of the message they will be preaching.

So, let’s look at 2 statistics: 1) the number of strong to violent tornadoes, and 2) the deadliest tornadoes in U.S. history

THE DOWNTURN IN STRONG TORNADOES WITH WARMING

The bottom panel of following graphic shows what most meteorologists already know: there has been a downward trend in strong (F3) to violent (F5) tornadoes in the U.S. since statistics began in the 1950s. As seen in the top panel, this has also been a period of general warming. For those statistics buffs, the correlation coefficient is -0.31. Obviously, the conclusion should be that warming causes fewer strong tornadoes, not more. (Or, maybe a lack of tornadoes causes global warming!)

Even when I de-trend the data, the remaining year-to-year variability still has a negative correlation: -0.17, so the conclusion is the same for the long-term trend AND the year-to-year variations in strong tornado activity.

So how does anyone get away with claiming that global warming is contributing to more tornadoes?

Well, maybe because there has indeed been an UPward trend in total reported tornado sightings in the U.S. during the same period of time. But this is only because (as I mention in my first book, Climate Confusion) there are so many more people now spread across the fruited plain, with so many video cameras, and now so many Doppler radars are measuring the wind rotation associated with tornadoes, that it is difficult for any to go unnoticed by at least someone.

THE DOWNTURN IN TORNADO DEATHS

Also, if you hear any news reports that more deaths due to tornadoes are due to global warming, this is also a bogus claim. Here’s a little quiz for you:

QUESTION: Out of the 25 deadliest tornadoes in U.S history, how many would you guess have occurred in the last 50 years (since 1960)?

…wait for it….

ANSWER: Up until a month ago, NONE of them.

On April 27, one of the Alabama tornadoes made the bottom of the list at #25, but now has been knocked back off the list because Sunday’s tornado in Joplin will be ranked #8.

So, to the extent that you hear reports of ANYONE connecting tornadoes to global warming, I think it proves only one thing: The belief that global warming is causing most of the world’s ills is so pervasive that the facts simply do not matter anymore.

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