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Title: A link between climate change and Joplin tornadoes? Never!
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The Washington Post
URL Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini ... 2011/05/23/AFrVC49G_story.html
Published: May 23, 2011
Author: Bill McKibben
Post Date: 2011-05-24 12:32:18 by war
Keywords: Pay No, Attention To That, Man Behind The Curtain
Views: 45540
Comments: 60
Caution: It is vitally important not to make connections. When you see pictures of rubble like this week’s shots from Joplin, Mo., you should not wonder: Is this somehow related to the tornado outbreak three weeks ago in Tuscaloosa, Ala., or the enormous outbreak a couple of weeks before that (which, together, comprised the most active April for tornadoes in U.S. history). No, that doesn’t mean a thing. It is far better to think of these as isolated, unpredictable, discrete events. It is not advisable to try to connect them in your mind with, say, the fires burning across Texas — fires that have burned more of America at this point this year than any wildfires have in previous years. Texas, and adjoining parts of Oklahoma and New Mexico, are drier than they’ve ever been — the drought is worse than that of the Dust Bowl. But do not wonder if they’re somehow connected. If you did wonder, you see, you would also have to wonder about whether this year’s record snowfalls and rainfalls across the Midwest — resulting in record flooding along the Mississippi — could somehow be related. And then you might find your thoughts wandering to, oh, global warming, and to the fact that climatologists have been predicting for years that as we flood the atmosphere with carbon we will also start both drying and flooding the planet, since warm air holds more water vapor than cold air. It’s far smarter to repeat to yourself the comforting mantra that no single weather event can ever be directly tied to climate change. There have been tornadoes before, and floods — that’s the important thing. Just be careful to make sure you don’t let yourself wonder why all these record-breaking events are happening in such proximity — that is, why there have been unprecedented megafloods in Australia, New Zealand and Pakistan in the past year. Why it’s just now that the Arctic has melted for the first time in thousands of years. No, better to focus on the immediate casualties, watch the videotape from the store cameras as the shelves are blown over. Look at the news anchorman standing in his waders in the rising river as the water approaches his chest. Because if you asked yourself what it meant that the Amazon has just come through its second hundred-year drought in the past five years, or that the pine forests across the western part of this continent have been obliterated by a beetle in the past decade — well, you might have to ask other questions. Such as: Should President Obama really just have opened a huge swath of Wyoming to new coal mining? Should Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sign a permit this summer allowing a huge new pipeline to carry oil from the tar sands of Alberta? You might also have to ask yourself: Do we have a bigger problem than $4-a-gallon gasoline? Better to join with the U.S. House of Representatives, which voted 240 to 184 this spring to defeat a resolution saying simply that “climate change is occurring, is caused largely by human activities, and poses significant risks for public health and welfare.” Propose your own physics; ignore physics altogether. Just don’t start asking yourself whether there might be some relation among last year’s failed grain harvest from the Russian heat wave, and Queensland’s failed grain harvest from its record flood, and France’s and Germany’s current drought-related crop failures, and the death of the winter wheat crop in Texas, and the inability of Midwestern farmers to get corn planted in their sodden fields. Surely the record food prices are just freak outliers, not signs of anything systemic. It’s very important to stay calm. If you got upset about any of this, you might forget how important it is not to disrupt the record profits of our fossil fuel companies. If worst ever did come to worst, it’s reassuring to remember what the U.S. Chamber of Commerce told the Environmental Protection Agency in a recent filing: that there’s no need to worry because “populations can acclimatize to warmer climates via a range of behavioral, physiological, and technological adaptations.” I’m pretty sure that’s what residents are telling themselves in Joplin today. Bill McKibben is founder of the global climate campaign 350.org and a distinguished scholar at Middlebury College in Vermont.
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#21. To: war, jwpegler (#19)
Republicans aka conservatives aka kooks don't do science.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Somewhere on this board is someone screeching that snow is "caused" by cold weather. As if the cold temps created the water in the atmosphere. IN fact, it might have been pegler...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Strong words from the avowed SOCIALIST. Here's a clue for you, butt-boy: this country was founded on FREEDOM from intrusive government and individual rights. In other words, YOU are the "filthy traitor." You're no American, than Fidel Castro. Why don't you go find yourself a nice socialist or communist country? REAL Americans, real PATRIOTS, will fight you and your ilk. Traitors like you will get the reward that ALL traitors deserve... List of those unable to think: Bumper sticker on DwarF's car: The Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Socialist.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Right wingers should think of that every time they recite the words "equality and justice for all".
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
I don't know what pledge you recite, but when I was a kid, mine went "with liberty and justice for all". I guess the concept of liberty confuses you.
You is right, I is wrong. I guess the concept of liberty confuses you. Nope, just an age-related brain fart.
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
You are not too far off. From: The Pledge of Allegiance A Short History at oldtimeislands.org/pledge/ple dge.htm "His original Pledge read as follows: 'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and (to*) the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.' He considered placing the word, 'equality,' in his Pledge, but knew that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans. [ * 'to' added in October, 1892. ]"
What a relief, thank you!
It is our responsibility to protect that child once that child’s born too. When we start debating a budget, let’s make sure we don’t cut 100,000 vaccines. Let’s make sure we’ve got health insurance. We seem to worship what we cannot see, but as soon as that baby’s born, oh no, we don’t want to be intrusive. Texas is going to shrink government until it fits inside a women’s uterus. Senator Leticia Van de Putte
AND?
I have a computer science degree. 4 semesters of calculus, linear algebra, probably and statistics, 2 semesters of calculus-based physics, etc. How about you? Your teacher's certificate and "PhysEd" degree don't qualify you as an expert in anything except cleaning up sweaty jock straps.
Disinformation Rule #18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can’t do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how “sensitive they are to criticism”. Disinformation Rule #5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left- wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
List of those unable to think: Bumper sticker on DwarF's car: The water cycle is evaporation, condensation, precipitation. Think about that for a day two and then we'll move on.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Which has nothing to do with my post about the last glacial age.
You may as well have cited the last Super Bowl game.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Think about that for a day two and then we'll move on. They did not teach that in computer science class - back in the punch card days I imagine.....
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
You can boil water on top of a stove...in an oven...over a fire...in a microwave. But according to the last glacial age... /morons
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." You two assclowns don't know any more about meteorology than you would know about teleportation or hieorglyphics interpretaion, so just drop the BS. The fact is along with the record snow this past winter, there was also record COLD, including in the tropics, so your BS analysis that the extra moisture was due to higher temps is also demonstrably crap. In fact, in the early 2000's when there were generally mild winters with little snow on the East Coast, the so called "experts" were claiming that this was going to be the wave of the future.
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Quick...tell me 2003 isn't the early 2000's...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
https://www.environmentwashington.org/reports/global-warming/global-warming-reports/less-snow-less-water-climate-disruption-in-the-west Scientists believe that climate disruption in the West likely will result in more heat, less snowpack,
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
A report published in the New Scientist magazine has found the average number of days of snow in the Swiss Alps is lower than ever before. CSIRO climate change expert Dr Penny Whetton says Australia's mountain snow cover could be reduced by up to 54 per cent by 2020. "The probability of any precipitation falling as snow rather than rain is going to decrease, http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/28/2257656.htm?section=australia
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
Overland : Arctic Melt Means Less Snow – Overland : Arctic Melt Means More Snow James Overland 2004 : When scientists trained their analytical tools on the North Pole and its environs, they quantified the local knowledge: The polar ice cap is 40 percent thinner and millions of acres smaller than it was in the 1970s. What happens at the North Pole can affect the rest of the planet, potentially altering the course of the Gulf Stream, which moderates climate from the East Coast of the United States to the British Isles. Closer to home, the jet stream that dictates much of Seattle’s weather can be diverted when the polar vortex speeds up. “It’s probably contributing to the fact that it’s warmer and we’ve been getting less snow,” Overland said. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001910590_northpole23m.html James Overland 2011 : Our region experienced record snowfall last winter, topping the charts dating at least as far back as the late 1800s. In all, more than six feet of snow fell at sites such as Baltimore-Washington International Marshall Airport. Extreme weather nailed other U.S. cities last winter, too, and swaths of Europe saw unprecedented snowfalls and record cold temperatures. This year, the nation’s capital has suffered one unusually severe storm. Parts of the East Coast from Atlanta to Boston have been experiencing blizzard conditions. Last week, a vast swath of the country’s midsection and East Coast got deluged with sleet and snow, paralyzing travel. What gives? To understand how warming and snowstorms may be connected, it helps to start with the epicenter of winter weather. Around the North Pole, some of the world’s coldest air currents blow in what’s typically a tight loop known as the polar vortex. Air masses inside the vortex tend to have not only low temperatures but also low barometric pressures compared with air outside the vortex. The surrounding high-pressure zones push in on the vortex from all sides, helping the cold air stay where it belongs, at the top of the world. …… The root of the problem, Overland says, is melting sea ice. Sea ice forms in the Arctic Ocean during the cold, dark days of fall and winter and hangs around, melting slowly but not completely vanishing, throughout the summer. In recent years, more sea ice has melted during the warm months than can be replenished during the chillier ones.
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
That's why we listen to actual scientists who agree we are seeing man made global climate change by a margin of 10 to 1 if not more. You assclowns are the ones ignoring what the vast majority of climate scientists are saying. Science works by peer reviewed consensus which states man made global warming is reality right now. Like I said, right winger Republican conservatives don't do science.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
My company builds iPhone, iPad, Android, and Windows Mobile applications. What do you do? Circle jerk.
That's why we listen to You assclowns are the ones ignoring what the vast majority of Science works by peer reviewed consensus which states man made global warming is reality right now. Consensus has nothing to do with science. Even thinking is such a manner is demonsstrating the politicization of science which is all AGW theory is. Like I said, right winger Republican conservatives don't do science. We don't do mind numbed robot left wing kook junk science.
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
Even the notion that there is any kind of consensus among scientist is dubious. http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/science/environment/epa/5270-epa-fascism-versus-america-there-is-no-consensus-among-scientists-4-of-7.html
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
Conspiracy theory kookdom to explain away why 99% of scientists agree that there is man made global climate change.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
"Shredding the 'climate consensus' myth: More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims – Challenge UN IPCC & Gore" INTRODUCTION: More than 1000 dissenting scientists (updates previous 700 scientist report) from around the globe have now challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore. This new 2010 320-page Climate Depot Special Report... Selected Highlights of the Updated 2010 Report featuring over 1000 international scientists dissenting from man-made climate fears: “We’re not scientifically there yet. Despite what you may have heard in the media, there is nothing like a consensus of scientific opinion that this is a problem. Because there is natural variability in the weather, you cannot statistically know for another 150 years.” — UN IPCC’s Tom Tripp, a member of the UN IPCC since 2004 and listed as one of the lead authors and serves as the Director of Technical Services & Development for U.S. Magnesium. “Any reasonable scientific analysis must conclude the basic theory wrong!!” — NASA Scientist Dr. Leonard Weinstein who worked 35 years at the NASA Langley Research Center and finished his career there as a Senior Research Scientist. Weinstein, is presently a Senior Research Fellow at the National Institute of Aerospace. “Please remain calm: The Earth will heal itself — Climate is beyond our power to control…Earth doesn’t care about governments or their legislation. You can’t find much actual global warming in present-day weather observations. Climate change is a matter of geologic time, something that the earth routinely does on its own without asking anyone’s permission or explaining itself.” — Nobel Prize-Winning Stanford University Physicist Dr. Robert B. Laughlin, who won the Nobel Prize for physics in 1998, and was formerly a research scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. “In essence, the jig is up. The whole thing is a fraud. And even the fraudsters that fudged data are admitting to temperature history that they used to say didn’t happen…Perhaps what has doomed the Climategate fraudsters the most was their brazenness in fudging the data” — Dr. Christopher J. Kobus, Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering at Oakland University, specializes in alternative energy, thermal transport phenomena, two-phase flow and fluid and thermal energy systems. “The energy mankind generates is so small compared to that overall energy budget that it simply cannot affect the climate…The planet’s climate is doing its own thing, but we cannot pinpoint significant trends in changes to it because it dates back millions of years while the study of it began only recently. We are children of the Sun; we simply lack data to draw the proper conclusions.” — Russian Scientist Dr. Anatoly Levitin, the head of geomagnetic variations laboratory at the Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism, Ionosphere and Radiowave Propagation of the Russian Academy of Sciences. “Hundreds of billion dollars have been wasted with the attempt of imposing a Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory that is not supported by physical world evidences…AGW has been forcefully imposed by means of a barrage of scare stories and indoctrination that begins in the elementary school textbooks.” — Brazilian Geologist Geraldo Luís Lino, who authored the 2009 book “The Global Warming Fraud: How a Natural Phenomenon Was Converted into a False World Emergency.” “I am an environmentalist,” but “I must disagree with Mr. Gore” — Chemistry Professor Dr. Mary Mumper, the chair of the Chemistry Department at Frostburg State University in Maryland, during her presentation titled “Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide and Global Warming, the Skeptic’s View.” “I am ashamed of what climate science has become today,” The science “community is relying on an inadequate model to blame CO2 and innocent citizens for global warming in order to generate funding and to gain attention. If this is what ‘science’ has become today, I, as a scientist, am ashamed…Science is too important for our society to be misused in the way it has been done within the Climate Science Community.” Swedish Climatologist Dr. Hans Jelbring, “Those who call themselves ‘Green planet advocates’ should be arguing for a CO2- fertilized atmosphere, not a CO2-starved atmosphere…Diversity increases when the planet was warm AND had high CO2 atmospheric content…Al Gore’s personal behavior supports a green planet – his enormous energy use with his 4 homes and his bizjet, does indeed help make the planet greener. Kudos, Al for doing your part to save the planet.” — Renowned engineer and aviation/space pioneer Burt Rutan, who was named “100 most influential people in the world, 200483; by Time Magazine and Newsweek called him “the man responsible for more innovations in modern aviation than any living engineer.” “Global warming is the central tenet of this new belief system in much the same way that the Resurrection is the central tenet of Christianity. Al Gore has taken a role corresponding to that of St Paul in proselytizing the new faith…My skepticism about AGW arises from the fact that as a physicist who has worked in closely related areas, I know how poor the underlying science is. In effect the scientific method has been abandoned in this field.” — Atmospheric Physicist Dr. John Reid, who worked with Australia’s CSIRO’s (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization) Division of Oceanography and worked in surface gravity waves (ocean waves) research. “We maintain there is no reason whatsoever to worry about man-made climate change, because there is no evidence whatsoever that such a thing is happening.” — Greek Earth scientists Antonis Christofides and Nikos Mamassis of the National Technical University of Athens’ Department of Water Resources and Environmental Engineering. “There are clear cycles during which both temperature and salinity rise and fall. These cycles are related to solar activity…In my opinion and that of our institute, the problems connected to the current stage of warming are being exaggerated. What we are dealing with is not a global warming of the atmosphere or of the oceans.” — Biologist Pavel Makarevich of the Biological Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences “Because the greenhouse effect is temporary rather than permanent, predictions of significant global warming in the 21st century by IPCC are not supported by the data.” — Hebrew University Professor Dr. Michael Beenstock an honorary fellow with Institute for Economic Affairs who published a study challenging man-made global warming claims titled “Polynomial Cointegration Tests of the Anthropogenic Theory of Global Warming.” “The whole idea of anthropogenic global warming is completely unfounded. There appears to have been money gained by Michael Mann, Al Gore and UN IPCC’s Rajendra Pachauri as a consequence of this deception, so it’s fraud.” — South African astrophysicist Hilton Ratcliffe, a member of the Astronomical Society of Southern Africa (ASSA) and the Astronomical Society of the Pacific and a Fellow of the British Institute of Physics.
Now, I know Iām not going to change the minds of any of the True Believersā¦those who read all of Reverend Alās sermons, and say things like, āYou know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, ā¦ā. Can I get an āamenā??
99% of scientists certainly do not agree with this nonsense. Only government hacks living off of tax money agree.
And that makes you a climate expert again, how? Because, thanks to you, I can download "The Weather Channel" ap?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." It is very close to 99%...the only reason that the deniers have a voice is because it generates cash for some pro-pollution politicians...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." 2007? Mine are from before that. And 2007 is not the "early 2000's"...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." 1000 out of how many?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." How is this quote in any way a refutation of climate change? IN point of fact, it concedes that there is... Guess you're down to 999.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." A biologist? an honorary fellow with Institute for Economic Affairs An economist?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Utter nonsense.
Snow requires moisture in the atmosphere.
#22. To: Godwinson (#21)
(Edited)
Republicans aka conservatives aka kooks don't do science.
--GW Bush
#23. To: Godwinson (#20)
Leave my country, you filthy traitor.
mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.
#24. To: Capitalist Eric (#23)
Strong words from the avowed SOCIALIST.
#25. To: Godwinson (#24)
The Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Socialist.
#26. To: lucysmom (#25)
Right wingers should think of that every time they recite the words "equality and justice for all".
#27. To: Get Outta Dodge! (#26)
I don't know what pledge you recite, but when I was a kid, mine went "with liberty and justice for all".
#28. To: lucysmom (#27)
(Edited)
Nope, just an age-related brain fart.
#29. To: mininggold (#28)
#30. To: war (#19)
Snow requires moisture in the atmosphere.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#31. To: Godwinson (#21)
Republicans aka conservatives aka kooks don't do science.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#32. To: Godwinson (#21)
(Edited)
Republicans aka conservatives aka kooks don't do science.
mcgowanjm, ferret mike, skippy, fartboy/yukko, white sands, bucky, lucys idiot mom, e_type_jackoff, go56, badlie, wreck, calCON, mininggold, war, Banjo Boris, Biff, Godwinson and meguro. If you're on the above list, you're too fucking stupid to hold a real conversation.
#33. To: jwpegler (#30)
--GW Bush
#34. To: war (#33)
The water cycle is evaporation, condensation, precipitation.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#35. To: jwpegler (#34)
--GW Bush
#36. To: war, jwpegler (#33)
The water cycle is evaporation, condensation, precipitation.
#37. To: Godwinson (#36)
--GW Bush
#38. To: war, godwinson (#37)
(Edited)
#39. To: no gnu taxes (#38)
In fact, in the early 2000's when there were generally mild winters with little snow on the East Coast, the so called "experts" were claiming that this was going to be the wave of the future.
--GW Bush
#40. To: no gnu taxes (#38)
--GW Bush
#41. To: war (#39)
According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event". "Children just aren't going to know what snow is," he said...
#42. To: war (#39)
#43. To: war (#40)
The advocacy group Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS), in collaboration with 50 experts, developed a comprehensive report called the Northeast Climate Impacts Assessment (NECIA). The report outlines the expected course of action for climate change in the Northeast region. What it predicts is increased temperatures, shorter winter seasons, less snow and quicker melting of the snow that does fall. The report even goes so far as to measure the economic impact of ski slopes that will face added costs with the less lucrative winters to come. Clearly, there is a legitimate case that climate change will cause less.
#44. To: war (#40)
Scientists say Australian skiers should prepare for shorter ski seasons because of global warming.
#45. To: war (#40)
#46. To: war (#40)
#47. To: war, no gnu taxes (#38)
....don't know any more about meteorology
#48. To: Godwinson (#36)
(Edited)
back in the punch card days I imagin
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#49. To: Godwinson (#47)
actual scientists fringe alarmists and/or vested special interest groups who agree we are seeing man made global climate change by a margin of 10 to 1 if not more. climate scientists fringe alarmists and/or vested special interest groups are saying.
#50. To: Godwinson (#47)
#51. To: no gnu taxes (#50)
#52. To: Godwinson (#51)
#53. To: Godwinson (#51)
99% of scientists agree
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#54. To: jwpegler (#48)
--GW Bush
#55. To: jwpegler (#53)
(Edited)
--GW Bush
#56. To: no gnu taxes (#46)
--GW Bush
#57. To: no gnu taxes (#52)
--GW Bush
#58. To: no gnu taxes (#52)
(Edited)
lease remain calm: The Earth will heal itself — Climate is beyond our power to control…Earth doesn’t care about governments or their legislation. You can’t find much actual global warming in present-day weather observations. Climate change is a matter of geologic time, something that the earth routinely does on its own without asking anyone’s permission or explaining itself.
--GW Bush
#59. To: no gnu taxes (#52)
Biologist Pavel Makarevich
--GW Bush
#60. To: war (#55)
It is very close to 99%
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
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