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Title: Radio host now says Judgment Day coming in October
Source: MSNBC
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43140373/?gt1=43001
Published: May 23, 2011
Author: GARANCE BURKE
Post Date: 2011-05-23 22:32:28 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 3156
Comments: 19

ALAMEDA, Calif. — California preacher Howard Camping says his prophecy that the world would end was off by five months because Judgment Day actually will come on Oct. 21.

The independent Christian radio host said Monday the apocalypse will come five months after May 21, the original date he predicted.

Camping, 89-year-old retired civil engineer, says he felt so terrible when his doomsday prediction did not come true on Saturday that he left home and took refuge in a motel with his wife.

Rather than give his normal daily broadcast, Camping made a special statement before the press at the Oakland headquarters of the media empire that has broadcast his message.

His earlier apocalyptic prediction in 1994 also was a bust, but he said it didn't happen because of a mathematical error.

Camping told the San Francisco Chronicle on Sunday he was "flabbergasted" his latest doomsday prophecy did not come true.

Gunther Von Harringa, who heads a religious organization that produces content for Camping's media enterprise, said he was "very surprised" the Rapture did not happen as predicted, but said he and other believers were in good spirits. Advertise | AdChoices Advertise | AdChoices Advertise | AdChoices

"We're still searching the Scriptures to understand why it did not happen," said Von Harringa, president of Bible Ministries International, which he operates from his home in Delaware, Ohio. "It's just a matter of OK, Lord, where do we go from here?"

Apocalyptic thinking has always been part of American religious life and popular culture. Teachings about the end of the world vary dramatically — even within faith traditions — about how they will occur.

Still, the overwhelming majority of Christians reject the idea that the exact date or time of Jesus' return can be predicted.

Tim LaHaye, co-author of the best-selling "Left Behind" novels about the end times, recently called Camping's prediction "not only bizarre but 100 percent wrong!" He cited the bible verse Matthew 24:36, 'but about that day or hour no one knows" except God.

"While it may be in the near future, many signs of our times certainly indicate so, but anyone who thinks they 'know' the day and the hour is flat out wrong," LaHaye wrote on his Web site, leftbehind.com.

Signs of disappointment were evident online, where groups that had confidently predicted the Rapture — and, in some cases, had spent money to help spread the word through advertisements — took tentative steps to re-establish Internet presences in the face of widespread mockery.

The Linwood, Penn.-based group eBible Fellowship still has a website with images of May 21 billboards all over the world, but its Twitter feed has changed over from the increasingly confident predictions before the date to circumspect Bible verses that seem to speak to the confusion and hurt many members likely feel.

"For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee," the group tweeted on Sunday, quoting the book of Isaiah.

Family Radio spent millions — some of it from donations made by followers — on more than 5,000 billboards and 20 RVs plastered with the doomsday message. In 2009, the nonprofit reported in IRS filings that it received $18.3 million in donations, and had assets of more than $104 million, including $34 million in stocks or other publicly traded securities.

Family Radio's special projects coordinator, Michael Garcia has said he believed the delay was God's way of separating true believers from those willing to doubt what he said were clear biblical warnings.

"Maybe this had to happen for there to be a separation between those who have faith and those who don't," he said. "It's highly possible that our Lord is delaying his coming."


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he was "flabbergasted" his latest doomsday prophecy did not come true. 32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0) (Edited)

Camping originally predicted the world would end in 1994.

There was at least one person who cashed in his retirement account to post advertisements to save people based on Camping's predictions for this year. Our tax money will probably support this idiot for the rest of his life. That's sick and wrong.

Two points:

1.) The Bible clearly states that no person knows when Jesus is coming back

2.) This entire "rapture" nonsense is a fiction invented by an English guy (John Darby) in the 19th century. Darby's nonsense is called dispensationalism. Unfortunately, it's the primary belief system of most American protestants.

The biblical verse about people being taken to heaven refers to Christ's second coming, not some pre-event that will save believers from whatever turmoil happens before Christ returns.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-05-23   22:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: jwpegler (#1)

2.) This entire "rapture" nonsense is a fiction invented by an English guy (John Darby) in the 19th century. Darby's nonsense is called dispensationalism. Unfortunately, it's the primary belief system of most American protestants.

Also known as the Republican party base.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-24   9:54:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#0)

I enjoy fairy tales as much as the next guy, but this one cost some delta minus types their jobs and life savings. You Magic Christians should take up a collection for them because it was your idiot religion that suckered them in. It would be the right thing to do.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-24   10:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Skip Intro (#3)

Go to hell dumb ass.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-24   10:32:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#4) (Edited)

Go to hell dumb ass.

Lucky for you there is no hell or you'd be spending a long time there. What have you got against helping out your fellow christians? That's not very Jesus-like of you, but then I don't believe Jesus was a stone hearted racist like you.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-24   10:36:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Skip Intro (#5)

Are you trying to wear out your welcome?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-24   10:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)

No, I'm trying to get some sense pounded into that concrete skull of yours. I expect to fail.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-24   10:41:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Skip Intro (#7)

You expect to do that by calling me a racist? That is worse than calling someone a nigger.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-24   10:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)

You expect to do that by calling me a racist? That is worse than calling someone a nigger.

You are what you are, Stone.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-24   10:47:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Skip Intro (#9)

They why did I vote for a black man for president in the past?

Why am I considering voting for Cain?

Just because someone doesn't like Obama doesn't make them racist.

If someone says nigger it doesn't make them racist either.

I believe God created us all. When I grew up my father was in the military. We lived on military bases sometimes. Some of my best friends growing up were black.

I've actually recently found an old friend of mine who happens to be black on my wifes facebook thing. I will be contacting him sometime soon to see what is up.

So don't call me a racist. It isn't what I am.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-24   10:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Just because someone doesn't like Obama doesn't make them racist.

That's true. It's calling him a nigger that does it.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-24   10:53:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Skip Intro (#11)

That's true. It's calling him a nigger that does it.

Then war is a racist. I saw him use the word nigger. I also saw you or go65 use the word.

That is ridiculous.

That is just an inult. Like calling someone an asshole, dick, or a faggot.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-24   10:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Why am I considering voting for Cain?

If Cain were to somehow get the nomination, the very same people who call any criticism of the POS Kenyan currently occupying the WH as racist would be trashing Cain in the vilest, most mean spirited ways possible.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-24   11:00:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: no gnu taxes (#13)

If Cain were to somehow get the nomination, the very same people who call any criticism of the POS Kenyan currently occupying the WH as racist would be trashing Cain in the vilest, most mean spirited ways possible.

true.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-24   11:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#14)

true.

No, it's not true. If I disagree with his policies then I'll say so, but unlike you and padlock I won't sink to calling him a nigger.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-24   11:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Skip Intro (#15)

Will you call him an uncle tom? That is worse then being called a nigger.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-24   11:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#16)

Will you call him an uncle tom? That is worse then being called a nigger.

I won't call him anything regarding his skin color.

I will say that Cain doesn't have a prayer of getting the nomination, though. It's Romney's turn, and that's that.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-24   11:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Skip Intro (#17)

It's Romney's turn, and that's that.

It'll be interesting to see if a Mormon can get elected to the highest office.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-05-24   11:19:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Fred Mertz (#18)

It'll be interesting to see if a Mormon can get elected to the highest office.

I doubt it, but I do think he'll get the nomination.

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-24   11:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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