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Title: The Tragedy of Sarah Palin
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine ... e-tragedy-of-sarah-palin/8492/
Published: May 22, 2011
Author: JOSHUA GREEN
Post Date: 2011-05-22 18:56:38 by Mad Dog
Keywords: libTURD, angst, on display
Views: 16431
Comments: 40

From the moment Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech electrified the Republican convention, she was seen as an unbending, hard-charging, red-meat ideologue—to which soon was added “thin-skinned” and “vindictive.” But a look at what Palin did while in office in Alaska—the only record she has—shows a very different politician: one who worked with Democrats to tame Big Oil and solve the great problem at the heart of the state’s politics. That Sarah Palin might have set the nation on a different course. What went wrong?

IT’S HARD TO escape Sarah Palin. On Facebook and Twitter, cable news and reality television, she is a constant object of dispute, the target or instigator of some distressingly large proportion of the political discourse. If she runs for president—well, brace yourself! But there is one place where a kind of collective resolve has been able to push her aside, make her a less suffocating presence than almost everywhere else: Alaska.

During a week spent traveling there recently, I learned that Palin occupies a place in the minds of most Alaskans roughly like that of an ex-spouse from a stormy marriage: she’s a distant bad memory, and questions about her seem vaguely unwelcome. Visitors to Juneau, the capital and a haven for cruise-ship tourism, are hard-pressed to find signs of the state’s most famous citizen—no “Mama Grizzly” memorabilia or T-shirts bearing her spunky slogans. Although the town was buzzing with politics because the legislature was in session, talk of Palin mainly revolved around a rumored Democratic poll showing her to be less popular in Alaska right now than Barack Obama. The only tangible evidence I saw was her official portrait in the capitol and a small sign in the window of a seedy-looking gift shop advertising “Sarah Palin toilet paper.” Alaska has moved on.

So has Palin. Two years after abruptly resigning the governorship, she is a national figure, touring the country to promote her books; speaking out whenever moved to on important issues of the day; and serving, mainly through Fox News, as the guardian-enforcer of a particularly martial brand of conservatism. Though she still lives in Alaska, she has all but withdrawn from its public life, appearing only seldom and then usually to film her reality- television show, Sarah Palin’s Alaska.

But if she decides to run for the White House—and she’ll have to make up her mind soon—all of that will change. As much as Alaska might like to forget Sarah Palin, and she it, her record there, especially as governor, will take on new salience.

Palin entered the national consciousness more suddenly than most high-level politicians do, and she did it in the intense final stretch of a presidential campaign, which had a kiln-like effect of hardening the initial impression—depending on your point of view, of the provincial half-wit portrayed by Tina Fey or the plain-sense Mama Grizzly proudly leading her army of culture warriors. In modern politics, your “brand,” once established, is almost impossible to change. Only a handful of politicians have changed theirs (Hillary Clinton is one), and then only through tireless perseverance. Palin has shown little inclination to revise or deepen these impressions—she didn’t respond to my requests to discuss her record—and she hasn’t designated anyone else to do it for her. (Mama Grizzlies claw; they don’t contextualize.)

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#1. To: All (#0)

LOL! libTURD angst on display!

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"What Is ‘The Tragedy of Sarah Palin’?

To the Atlantic, it's that she didn't choose to be a liberal.

An article so titled in the June issue of the Atlantic is composed in an interesting new key of Palin attack. The author, the unabashedly liberal journalist Joshua Green, doesn’t do the usual cheap jokes nor dismiss Palin as a ninny or a figurehead; instead he respectfully reviews her accomplishments in Alaska, where he spent a week reporting, and supposes that she could have been a welcome figure on the national stage (to people like Joshua Green, at least) if only she had continued down the same path she trod in Juneau. Which Green says was a path of raising taxes and remaining silent on social issues.

In other words: Sarah Palin is secretly and heroically a liberal, and it’s a shame she can’t acknowledge that.

Green explains that there is only one important industry in Alaska: oil. “Oil taxes supply almost 90 percent of the general revenue, so oil is the central arena of state politics.” Republicans, Green says, tend to let oil companies dictate oil policy, whereas Democrats call for more oversight and taxation of big oil. Palin, of course, came to prominence by unseating then-Gov. Frank Murkowski in a Republican primary by opposing his crony-capitalist plan for dealing with the oil companies. Then she raised oil taxes, against the opposition of her own party, by allying with the Democrats. A Democratic state senator is quoted as praising her “moral courage.” Alaska came out of the affair with a AAA bond rating and a $12 billion budget surplus.

Yet as Green also notes, Alaska’s politics are much to the right of the nation’s, and even an Alaska Democrat rates as considerably more oil-friendly than most of his counterparts in Washington. Moreover, the notion that nationally prominent Republicans are advocating Murkowski-style sweetheart deals for oil is mere liberal paranoia.

What really stings Green is that she was the first, and remains the best, at demolishing and mocking the absurd mythology of Barack Obama. Wisely, Green does not quote at length anything Palin said at her uproarious, galvanizing and tremendously successful 2008 Republican National Convention address. To quote her words would be too hurtful to an Obama lover. Green calls the speech a “full-throated assault on Barack Obama, rooted in deep cultural resentment….what resonate are her charges that Obama wanted to ‘forfeit’ the war in Iraq and that he condescended to ‘working people’ with talk of ‘how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns.’”

Green provides no evidence that “cultural resentment” (code for racism, I suppose, but if Green wants to call her a racist he should be a man about it and say so; his subject, after all, has done us all the favor of never mincing words) rather than a difference in political philosophy was behind her remarks, but then liberals invariably grow queasy when ideals are in play. They’d much rather retreat to name calling: “Down with racists! I mean, cultural resenters!”

And of course Barack Obama condescended to working people when he said they were clinging to guns and religion. Even Obama knows that, which is why he doesn’t say such things anymore. Moreover, if Obama’s opposition to the surge and plan to vacate Iraq while the place was in a state of near civil war, thereby snuffing out a nascent democracy and guaranteeing an age of mass slaughter in Iraq while humiliating America for a generation or more to come — if this was not a proposed “forfeit,” then what other label would Green like to place on it? Surrender? Unilateral declaration of defeat? Kinetic military withdrawal?

Green tsk-tsks — more in sorrow than in anger, you understand — that in her convention speech, “You can practically hear her shift registers, the state figure morphing into a national one, the old Palin becoming the new.” Well, yes. She couldn’t very well build her candidacy for the vice presidency on Alaska pipeline issues, could she? A national candidate must discuss national issues. Such as Iraq, for instance.

The piece tells us, finally, very little about Sarah Palin, and a great deal about the wishes and aspirations of Joshua Green and his like. The most hilarious part of his profile comes near the end, when he imagines his fantasy Palin taking on those nasty Wall Streeters and attacking the deficit with huge tax hikes. Green believes something called “true Palinism” means not “hewing to any ideological extreme,” (i.e. raising taxes), “setting a pragmatic course,” (i.e. raising taxes) and “applying a rigorous practicality” (i.e. raising taxes).

Green further notes that “Republicans sometimes must confront powerful business interests” (i.e. by raising taxes on business), that “to govern effectively, you have to cooperate with the other side” (this can only mean Republicans agreeing with Democrats to raise taxes–not Democratic presidents signing off on Republican budget cuts) and that, finally, “you sometimes must raise taxes.” Green could have saved us some time by dropping all of the coded references and cutting to the chase.

Since even Barack Obama turned out not to have the stomach to take on Wall Street and raise taxes, it would appear that to Green, “true Palinism” means a politics considerably to the left of Obama’s. Maybe Green is so unhappy that the country has steered insufficiently leftward in the last two and a half years that he is now imagining even Sarah Palin agrees with him. It would be cruel to ask him, “How’s that hope-y change-y thing working out for ya?”"

pajamasmedia.com/blog/wha...ah-palin/?singlepage=true

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-22   19:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Mad Dog (#1)

In other words: Sarah Palin is secretly and heroically a liberal, and it’s a shame she can’t acknowledge that.

She's a neo-con,which amounts to the same thing when it comes to government power and the loss of rights to the people.

BTW,there is a new book out about her now,and the guy that wrote it was a close insider that helped her run for the office of Governor of Alaska,and was then with her during her VP run. He claims she is not the person in private that she appears to be,but he does defend her intelligence.

I just saw this guy interviewed about the book on television,and recommend everybody interested in the book do this before he gains polish. He comes across as shallow,dishonest,and invective when you can see him and his body language as he talks. He can't make eye contact with anybody when talking,and has to look down at the table.

MY best GUESS is she has no plans on running for public office again,so she no longer had any need for a political adviser based in Alaska. This means she let him go and he MAY be bitter about it. He may also just be doing this to get a few bucks and gain a little publicity now that he is out of work. He knows for a fact he can be a short-term media sensation by exposing faults or weaknesses in the Palin family. Just look at how much mileage and money a loser like Levi Johnson got out of it,when normally the left would go after a deadbeat father not paying any child support.

In MY opinion Palin isn't going to run anyhow,so all this amounts to is the media filling in headline spaces and selling advertising.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-24   12:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#2)

He may also just be doing this to get a few bucks and gain a little publicity now that he is out of work.

At least he learned something from Palin, as did Levi Johnson.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-05-24   12:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#2)

LOL!

Frankly I don't care.

I never have claimed that she was anything but another politician. A supposedly "honest" one but in today's world?

What cracked me up was both the absolute adoration AND the instant HATE that people reacted to her with.

It's WAY too much to expect Americans to act like free and independent INDIVIDUALS.

It's always so much safer and warmer in the herd.

But ... if I expect anything to change in any way outside of my own behavior, I'm pissing into the prevailing breeze, I know that.

Oh well.

Point em down hill.

The STEEP and the DEEP!

FTW.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-25   0:54:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Mad Dog (#4)

--

German Kid does pretty good M. Doggie Dog immitation.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-25   0:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#2)

Btw

I wasn't trying to be rude to you.

I honestly don't care about Governor Palin's act.

If it was between her and the little failure messiah 'king" obammy fraud, I'd still vote for her.

But don't freak out, I'd vote for YOU before I'd ever vote for the little failure messiah "king" obammy fraud.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-25   1:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

LOL!

You know what really cracks me up you credulous libTURD tool?

That you seem to think that I give a rusty fuck what you "think".

I'd kill myself before I'd voluntarily live even a pico second of your ball less little PC bitch life.

Chongo.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-25   1:05:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Mad Dog (#7)

Relax M.D. surely you can take some tongue in cheek kidding about your posting style.

I actually have found some of your posts recently to make good sense in a courageous way I never would expect a conservative to achieve.

So it's all good, and glad you are here. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-25   1:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#8)

Honestly.

SPARE me.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-25   1:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#2)

She's a neo-con

You shouldn't use that word. It makes you look less intelligent.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-25   7:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#8)

I actually have found some of your posts recently to make good sense in a courageous way

Link.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-25   7:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: war (#11)

He has said he does not give a rip about people's sexual preference. Do you really need a link for that? He's said it many times and I applaud him for that.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-25   7:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

Sneaky says the same thing.

Fuck if I can discern what the hell else he is "talking" about.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-25   8:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: war (#13)

Sneaky is not homophobic or racist. He hates/is amused by everyone equally.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-25   8:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

Good point...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-25   8:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#15) (Edited)

My policy is to compliment anyone, even Mad Dog when I agree with them. He is suspicious and takes it as patronizing. So it goes. I just say what I feel on things and however someone wants to take it is their trip.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-25   8:13:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Mad Dog (#4)

I never have claimed that she was anything but another politician. A supposedly "honest" one but in today's world?

Yeah,that IS a floating pedestal,ain't it?

I think she was very honest at first,but then she became immersed in the political swaps,gained professional political advisers that taught her to say what they thought was necessary to advance her career,and it went downhill from there.

Not many can resist the lure of such power and fame. Especially people who weren't born into wealth and fame.

What cracked me up was both the absolute adoration AND the instant HATE that people reacted to her with.

That really didn't have anything to do with her as an individual. It is always the way people react in the political world where one groups sees the emerging politician as a absolute savior of their beliefs and the other group sees them as a absolute danger to theirs.

I know you are old enough,so think about about the hatchet job pulled on Barry Goldwater in 64. The Country Club Republicans (called RINO's today) saw him as being as much of an enemy as the Dims did,and did absolutely nothing to help him while the Dims attacked him from ever angle they could think of.

Ironically enough,this is what really set the stage for Reagan's election. By the time Reagan decided to run the public had been made aware of the hatchet job pulled on Goldwater,and weren't buying ANY of the shit the Country Club assholes and their brother socialists the Dims were trying to pull.

It's WAY too much to expect Americans to act like free and independent INDIVIDUALS.

It's always so much safer and warmer in the herd.

Sadly,there is no question as to the truth of this. Prior to the 1960's Americans that stood up to the bullshit and lies were considered to be heroes,and everybody admired them. Nowadays anybody that stands up above the grazing herd is considered to be a fool and a speedbump that deserves anything that happens to them,and are constantly ridiculed by the Party People from both branches of the ruling party. Look at Ron Paul for proof of this.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-25   11:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Mad Dog (#6)

I wasn't trying to be rude to you.

I know. If there is one thing you and I share it is the fact that it is obvious to everybody when we are being intentionally rude.

But don't freak out, I'd vote for YOU before I'd ever vote for the little failure messiah "king" obammy fraud.

I'm not so sure I would. I don't think most people would be ready to handle that kind of shock.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-25   11:31:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

M. Doggie Dog immitation.

I don't know for sure who that idiot is,but it sounds like a crap "star".

As of the little German sociopath,there was a time when mothers would suffocate children like this,or the kids would "accidentially" drown while being bathed. That insured they wouldn't live long enough to breed. She could always explain that she thought that shit always floated,so it wasn't her fault the little shit drowned while in the bathtub.

The world was a better place back then.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-25   11:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#10)

You shouldn't use that word. It makes you look less intelligent.

Why? What would YOU call her when she hires neo-con establishment advisers and follows the neo-cons when it comes to perpetual war,the Office of Reich Security,the so-called Patriot Act,amnesty for illegal aliens,etc,etc,etc?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-25   11:42:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#13)

Sneaky says the same thing.

And it's true,I don't.

I don't claim to own that thought,though. Many conservatives think the same way on this issue. IMHO,it is the ONLY way for real conservatives to think. Conservatism is all about individual freedoms and the freedom to love who you want to love is as important as any of the others. One thing I know for a fact is that nobody,including no government,is ever going to be able to force ME to become a homosexual regardless of what they do or say,so why would I think it was right for them to try to force a homosexual to become a heterosexual?

We are either all free,or none of us are free. It really IS as simple as that.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-25   11:48:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: sneakypete (#17)

I never have claimed that she was anything but another politician. A supposedly "honest" one but in today's world?

Yeah,that IS a floating pedestal,ain't it?

LOL! "floating pedestal"? THAT's a real good one pete, very accurate and expressive of the thing it's self.

I hear you about her starting out as an honest person. But ...

I know no human, including myself, who would be able to resist that culture of absolute corruption in DC.

I remember what the country clubbers did to Goldwater . My dad was a Goldwater supporter.

You are 10000000000000000% correct about how prior to the 60's Americans would NEVER put up with this sort of crap.

I honestly don't know if that sense of the individual even exists in today's 'subjects"?

I was raised with it being at the core of being an American.

No matter what happens, WE will fight against these wannabe tyrants.

But ... the Hegelian dialectic is a means of gradual change through time.

And that's where we are now.

Forget the nose, the camel's forequarters are now in the tent.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-25   16:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#18)

But don't freak out, I'd vote for YOU before I'd ever vote for the little failure messiah "king" obammy fraud.

I'm not so sure I would. I don't think most people would be ready to handle that kind of shock.

Look man you have at least two things that America needs in a leader, you actually believe IN America, AND you are honest about what YOU think.

Of course THAT'S "shocking" to most people nowadays.

Never mind.

;^)

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-25   16:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Mad Dog (#22)

"I remember what the country clubbers did to Goldwater . My dad was a Goldwater supporter."

Too bad Barry did not win in 1964. He would of made a far better president than Johnson did.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-25   16:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

.

I actually kind of hate it when I agree with you.

Not really, ... well OK, sort of.

Barry Goldwater would have been a better choice for America.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-25   16:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#20)

You make things up.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-25   19:46:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#26)

So, you're a Palin fan Stone?

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-05-25   21:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mad Dog (#22)

I know no human, including myself, who would be able to resist that culture of absolute corruption in DC.

It wouldn't be easy to resist. Almost everybody would be either trying to recruit you or set traps so they can blackmail you. That's how the system has been working there since at least the late 30's,and they are good at it.

I honestly don't know if that sense of the individual even exists in today's 'subjects"?

There will be no room for individualism in Corporate World.

No matter what happens, WE will fight against these wannabe tyrants.

Yeah,but all of us old enough to remember how the system is SUPPOSED to work will be dead within another 20 years,and there is nobody today born after 1964 that has ever lived in a free country and they have no basis for comparison when it comes to how bad things are getting.

Forget the nose, the camel's forequarters are now in the tent.

I think he is already in the tent,and wandering around at will.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-26   1:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Mad Dog (#23)

Of course THAT'S "shocking" to most people nowadays.

And completely unacceptable.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-26   1:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

Too bad Barry did not win in 1964.

AMEN!

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-26   1:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#26)

You make things up.

Oh,bullBush. Look it up for yourself. It ain't a secret.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-26   1:23:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

Show me where she said she is for perpetual war.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-26   9:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Show me where she said she is for perpetual war.

Read my tagline.

She has also said the survival of America is dependent on the survival of Israel,so she would even involve us militarily if Israel went to war.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-26   10:47:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#33)

Your tagline and comment about Israel. Doesn't mean she said she was for perpetual war. That is just your spin on the subject.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-26   10:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#34)

Doesn't mean she said she was for perpetual war.

Yes,it does,and my tagline is about her blind support for the Neo-Con wars of Empire.

You can't see this because you don't WANT to see it.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-26   12:08:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#28)

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Honest to GOD pete, I can't understand people who are afraid of being whoever they really are.

You don't get "do overs" for lives, (Dharma wheel be d@mned).

It's NOW or it's NEVER.

That's how sheep live, not how free born men and women live.

Anyhow ... freaks me out.

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-27   18:55:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#29)

And completely unacceptable.

Only in the "POP" kulture of death and "Hate America FIRST!"ism.

I still believe Americans are that way naturally and that we act that way when free.

Hell it almost made even that fraud Trump look like he had b@lls! Just by acting like the messiah "king" was a mere President Trump got a ground swell of support.

To those to whom it is "unacceptable" I say, well you KNOW what I say.

The discourse and execution of adult matters will not be constrained in vocabulary or content in accordance with whatever a callow infant or an old maid et. al. finds "offensive".

LIBERTY for ALL or LIBERTY for NONE!

Spoiled, stupid and ignorant, brain dead phuckwads, libTURD fools, tools, and idiots, are the real sickness; the messiah "king" obammy and his regime are only the symptoms.

Mad Dog  posted on  2011-05-27   19:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Show me where she said she is for perpetual war.

Neither she nor anyone else has ever said they were for perpetual war.

Their actions speak louder than their words,though.

What she HAS said is that the future of America is tied to the future of Israel,and that is saying that if necessary to save Israel she would send US troops to the middle east to help Israel win a war.

And of course,as a neo-con in good standing,supporting perpetual war is a basic requirement to join the club.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-27   23:31:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Mad Dog (#36)

I can't understand people who are afraid of being whoever they really are.

Me,either. It ain't like the people you worry about impressing are living your life for you or paying your bills for you.

Hell,even if you were perfect in every way there are people who would be jealous and hate you for that.

Since there is no way of pleasing them,you might as well focus on pleasing yourself and your loved ones and not worry about what strangers think.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-27   23:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mad Dog (#37)

LIBERTY for ALL or LIBERTY for NONE!

AMEN! I'm always going to agree with you on that one.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-27   23:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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