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Title: Obama to aides: Netanyahu will never do what it takes to achieve Mideast peace
Source: Haaretz
URL Source: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma ... achieve-mideast-peace-1.362964
Published: May 20, 2011
Author: Haaretz Service
Post Date: 2011-05-20 02:13:35 by socalv8
Keywords: Obama, WW III, Tool
Views: 5179
Comments: 30

U.S. President Barack Obama does not think Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will never make the concessions necessary to achieve a Middle East peace deal, the New York Times cited Obama aides as saying on Friday.

The comments attributed to associates of the U.S. president comes amid what is turning become into a veritable war of words between Israel and the U.S., following Obama's Mideast strategy speech on Thursday in which the American leader voiced his support for a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders.

Following Obama's speech, Netanyahu, who is set to meet the U.S. president later today, said Thursday that Israel would object to any withdrawal to "indefensible" borders, adding he expected Washington to allow it to keep major settlement blocs in any peace deal.

"Israel appreciates President's Obama commitment to peace," Netanyahu said, but stressed that he expects Obama to refrain from demanding that Israel withdraw to "indefensible" 1967 borders "which will leave a large population of Israelis in Judea and Samaria and outside Israel's borders."

In what seems to be a response to Netanyahu's comments, Obama aides told the New York Times that the U.S. president did not believe Netanyahu will ever be willing to make the kind of concessions that would lead to a peace deal.

Those comments, which seem to heat an already intense atmosphere between Netanyahu and Obama, comes just hours before a fateful meeting between the two leaders in the White House on Friday.

Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor expressed disappointment Thursday in regards to Obama's Mideast policy speech, saying he failed to propose a serious plan for achieving Mideast peace.

"Today, the president outlined his hopes for Mideast peace – a goal that we all share – but failed to articulate a serious plan for achieving this goal," Cantor said in a statement. "This approach undermines our special relationship with Israel and weakens our ally’s ability to defend itself."

"The President’s habit of drawing a moral equivalence between the actions of the Palestinians and the Israelis while assessing blame for the conflict is, in and of itself, harmful to the prospect for peace. In reality, Israel - since its creation - has always proven willing to make the sacrifices necessary for peace, while the Palestinians on numerous occasions have rejected those offers."

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#1. To: socalv8 (#0)

There is nothing Netanyahu can do to achieve Middle East peace. Even if every last Jew on Earth were to commit suicide the M.E. Muzbos would still be killing each other. It's in their DNA.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2011-05-20   4:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Happy Quanzaa (#1)

It's in their DNA

And their "supposed" religion.....

I've always wondered why the religous freaks always preach that their followers are better than everybody else????? I guess it's because they think they have superior imaginary friends..... (just like the Liberals).....LOL.....

Oh well, religion is responsible for almost all of the worst things that has happened in mans history, and it doesn't look like that's gonna change any time soon......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-20   6:27:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: socalv8 (#0)

How many US Presidents have to go down this dead end street?

The ugly reality is Owe-bama just moved the so called 'doomsday clock' up a few minutes, dramatically increasing the odds of another war involving Israel and Egypt, Syria, et al. The difference is its exceedingly obvious we won't send massive amounts of military aid during the battle to come as we did in previous Arab attacks

Finally, this won't gain America a damn thing from the Arabs/Muslims.

Oh, and those chirping the Republicans couldn't attack Owe-bama on international policy in the wake of nailing bin Laden?

You look ridiculous, courtesy of your messiah.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-20   8:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Happy Quanzaa, socalv8 (#1)

There is nothing Netanyahu can do to achieve Middle East peace. Even if every last Jew on Earth were to commit suicide the M.E. Muzbos would still be killing each other. It's in their DNA.

The long term picture for Israel is pretty ugly, unless they plan to ethnically cleanse Arabs, or institute aparthaid, the Jewish population in Israel is heading for minority status as population growth is slower than that of Arab non-Jews.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-20   10:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: socalv8 (#0)

Obama to aides: Netanyahu will never do what it takes to achieve Mideast peace

Why do you think this isn't true?

Remember, Netanyahu's coalition includes extremist "settlers" that go out at night with Uzi's strapped to their backs to cut down Palestinian Olive and Lemon trees.

Most of these people believe the God gave them Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) and they are not about to give it back.

They are as a big a problem as is Hamas.

Unfortunately, some of the most influential and militant "settlers" are American citizens. This is one reason why we are so hated by the Palestinians. They should be stripped of American citizenship because they are essentially implementing a private foreign policy, which is not allowed by U.S. law.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-05-20   11:41:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#3) (Edited)

How many US Presidents have to go down this dead end street?

The consensus for the last 40 years is that the "two-state" solution is the answer. But it hasn't worked. It reminds me of communism -- good in theory, doesn't work in reality.

If something doesn't work in reality, it's not a good theory. This will never work in reality because there are extremists on both sides that benefit from the violence.

I don't understand why we cling to this nonsense. We need to pull the on middle east and get out.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-05-20   11:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jwpegler (#6)

We can't pull out of the region where the majority of the worlds available oil is, JW.

Its a nice theory around the coffee table, but completely unrealistic beyond that table after dinner conversation. Kinda like 'green technology' being a wonderful concept, but unable to power a airliner.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-20   11:57:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#7)

We can't pull out of the region where the majority of the worlds available oil is, JW.

We can once we start moving American cars to hydrogen fuel cells, which will start happening in 2015 according to every major company.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-05-20   12:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: jwpegler (#8)

We can once we start moving American cars to hydrogen fuel cells, which will start happening in 2015 according to every major company.

I'll believe it when it happens. Til then...

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-20   13:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Happy Quanzaa (#1)

...the M.E. Muzbos would still be killing each other. It's in their DNA.

Can we just lock them in a big room together?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-20   15:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Badeye (#3)

You look ridiculous, courtesy of your messiah.

?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-20   15:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: go65 (#4)

...unless they plan to ethnically cleanse Arabs, or institute aparthaid

Where do I vote?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-20   15:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: socalv8 (#12)

Where do I vote?

you'd have to move to Israel first.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-20   15:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: socalv8 (#11)

Boofer ***thinks*** that because you posted the article that you probably wrote it too...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-20   15:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: jwpegler (#5)

They should be stripped of American citizenship because they are essentially implementing a private foreign policy, which is not allowed by U.S. law.

Rahm Emanuel says bullshit.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-20   15:32:56 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: war (#14)

Boofer ***thinks***

?

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-20   16:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: go65 (#16)

Chuckles...poor choice of words...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-20   18:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: socalv8 (#0)

U.S. President Barack Obama does not think Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will never make the concessions necessary to achieve a Middle East peace deal, the New York Times cited Obama aides as saying on Friday.

Well Duhhhh, no shit...... They've tried to make peace and the Palistinians want no part of it..... Why???? Because all those billions of dollars that are being sent to them from other countries who support their cause, would quit sending it if there was peace.... Free Welfare, why give it up!!!!! And then they would have to form a "REAL" government, good luck with that one......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-20   18:45:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: socalv8 (#11)

Sorry, that wasn't meant for you socalv8.

My apologies.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-21   12:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: CZ82 (#18)

Well Duhhhh, no shit...... They've tried to make peace and the Palistinians want no part of it..... Why???? Because all those billions of dollars that are being sent to them from other countries who support their cause, would quit sending it if there was peace.... Free Welfare, why give it up!!!!! And then they would have to form a "REAL" government, good luck with that one......

Oh God..... not another Israel Firster here. Why don't you guys just move there?

The biggest receiver of welfare in the world is Israel.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-21   12:19:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: mininggold (#20)

Oh God..... not another Israel Firster here. Why don't you guys just move there?

Already been there....

They're our allies and only sane presence in the region, you don't throw them under the bus just because a few idiotic people hate the Jews..... (It's probably because the Jews have higher IQs than them, and they can't stand that).....

If he wanted to throw somebody under the bus who deserved it, why didn't he look in his own party?????? There are plenty of "Outstanding" candidates in the Obozo administration!!!!!

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-21   13:27:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: CZ82 (#21)

Already been there....

They're our allies and only sane presence in the region, you don't throw them under the bus just because a few idiotic people hate the Jews..... (It's probably because the Jews have higher IQs than them, and they can't stand that).....

Of course you have dually. You sound so much like Goldi with your 'more intelligent than thou' red herring too.

But it's nice to finally see your true anti-American agenda coming out which proves all your previous bluster about unions, need for low taxes and lower standards of living for Americans is exactly that...bluster.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-21   13:39:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mininggold (#22)

Of course you have dually. You sound so much like Goldi with your 'more intelligent than thou' red herring too.

But it's nice to finally see your true anti-American agenda coming out which proves all your previous bluster about unions, need for low taxes and lower standards of living for Americans is exactly that...bluster.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!! So what does that have to do with the Jews????? Jealous????

Rules for Libtards #28). Say something so mind numbingly, idiotically stupid and be proud of it…..

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-21   14:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: CZ82 (#23)

ROTFLMAO!!!!!! So what does that have to do with the Jews????? Jealous????

Rules for Libtards #28). Say something so mind numbingly, idiotically stupid and be proud of it…..

Rules for duallies.... call names when you can't refute and claim a higher IQ.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-21   14:16:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mininggold (#24)

Rules for duallies.... call names when you can't refute and claim a higher IQ.

OK... so what is a duallie in your vernacular?????

Refute what????

I didn't claim a higher IQ, I said the Jews did!!!! (that is from a study done in the mid 90s, not my opinion, and there is a book written about that study).... And by the way I'm not a Jew... not even close.....

And who the hell is Goldi????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-21   14:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: CZ82 (#25)

They're our allies and only sane presence in the region, you don't throw them under the bus just because a few idiotic people hate the Jews..... (It's probably because the Jews have higher IQs than them, and they can't stand that).....

Typical of a dually to not even understand their own posts.

And YOU changed the exchange from Israel to Jews in general.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-21   14:55:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: mininggold (#26)

Whatever......... LOL.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-21   15:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CZ82 (#27)

Whatever......... LOL.....

There's thread about Goldi on this same forum at this very moment. You really shouldn't act so dumb (or incurious).

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-21   15:16:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mininggold (#28)

There's thread about Goldi on this same forum at this very moment. You really shouldn't act so dumb (or incurious).

So does that mean I have to read every thread that is posted on this site???? To find out who someone is that I don't really know or care about..... All I know is Goldi is on another website.... Who don't you clue me in then on who he/she is.... if it's that important....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-21   15:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#28) (Edited)

There's thread about Goldi on this same forum at this very moment. You really shouldn't act so dumb (or incurious).

So does that mean I have to read every thread that is posted on this site???? To find out who someone is that I don't really know or care about..... All I know is Goldi is on another website.... Who don't you clue me in then on who he/she is.... if it's that important....

And......

I guess knowing Goldi isn't that important after all....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-22   10:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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