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Title: Amtrak Chugs Deeper Into the Red
Source: WSJ
URL Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100 ... 701866.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Published: May 19, 2011
Author: Josh Mitchell
Post Date: 2011-05-19 13:40:34 by socalv8
Keywords: amtrak, tax dollars, money pit
Views: 13773
Comments: 40

Amtrak's financial losses are projected to widen this year despite rising ridership, the top executive of the government-subsidized rail system said Tuesday.

Amtrak blames the red ink on rising compensation costs for union workers and increased costs for fuel, materials and other expenses. Amtrak is making money on its heavily traveled Northeast Corridor between Boston and Washington, serving mostly commuters, executives said. But money-losing, long-distance routes are a drag on the bottom line, Amtrak says.

Amtrak officials project an operating loss of $506 million in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30, up from a loss of $419.9 million last year. Officials have projected a loss of $616 million next year.

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#4. To: socalv8 (#0)

Perhaps if Amtrak were allowed to shut down unprofitable routes, it wouldn't have these problems.

Of course, Amtrak's losses pail in comparison when you then of the hundreds of billions of dollars spent in the last thirty years on road/air support.

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#6. To: go65 (#4)

Perhaps if Amtrak were allowed to shut down unprofitable routes, it wouldn't have these problems.

Why aren't they allowed to shut them down?

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#32. To: socalv8 (#6) (Edited)

Why aren't they allowed to shut them down?

If I remember correctly from way back when, its a national security issue.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-20   13:21:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: lucysmom (#32)

If I remember correctly from way back when, its a national security issue.

mininggold said coal and ag products have to stay on rails.
I'm interested and will try to find the law/reason.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-20   15:40:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: mininggold, lucysmom (#39)

Why aren't they allowed to shut them down? (money losing routes)

They are still the biggest conveyors of coal and certain ag products, that would not look good being spilled all over the highways.

If I remember correctly from way back when, its a national security issue.

No current answer here, but some good info...

That happened right after David Gunn took over from Warrington in 2003 and discovered that Amtrak was broke. The DOT loaned Amtrak $100 Million to cover payroll, with the condition that Amtrak could not add any new routes unless an interested third party guarenteed that Amtrak would not loose money.

They have taken routes away in the past, but are they able to take away routes now?

Yes, Amtrak can still cancel routes, recent examples are the Palmetto and the 3 Rivers.

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