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Title: Nursing Home Industry Unleashes Scathing Advert Decrying Governor Kasich's Proposed Cuts
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clevelandleader.com
URL Source: http://www.clevelandleader.com/taxonomy/term/13
Published: May 15, 2011
Author: Eugene McCormick
Post Date: 2011-05-15 12:25:50 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 7200
Comments: 70
Remember when the Republicans were talking about "death panels" during the national health care debate last year? That seems to be the message of what the Ohio Health Care Association is depicting in their new television advertisements that have been popping up around the dial in response to gutting skilled nursing care, aka nursing homes, by $470 Million dollars. The scary thing about it though, is if the cuts do come, not only jobs will be lost but likely lives as well as senior citizens will need to find new options for long-term health care. With the loss in funding, facilities such as Metro Health Center for Skilled Nursing Facility here in Cleveland would either close or services down to a bare minimum level. Laughably, Kasich says he is being bullied by the group telling the Plain Dealer: If there is someone who knows a thing or two about bullying, it is Kasich himself who famously said following his election. 
"For them to get their way would continue a precedent of bullying, intimidation and the power of special interests in our state."
"We need you on the bus, and if you're not on the bus, we will run over you with the bus. And I'm not kidding.".
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#31. To: Ferret Mike (#28)
Liability insurance, what you have to pay for the damage you do to other persons or property - figures.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
He also seems to miss the fact that although Reagan whom he thinks as a demi- god talked in 1983 about his staunch opposition to abortion in a book he had published, he had legalized abortion in California as governor in the late 1960s, he never sought a constitutional ban on abortion.
There is something perverse in passionately protecting the life of a fetus while campaigning against that same fetus getting a fair shake in life after its delivered into the world.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
More Liberal horseshit, tell the lie enough people will believe it..... "MOST" nursing homes are owned by private individuals, religious organizations and major corporations..... ("NOT" state or county owned and operated....) Those homes do make a profit, if not then they are shut down..... "MOST" inhabitants of those nursing homes are private pay or insurance pay.... "MOST" facilities only take a certain percentage of Medicaid (State paid) patients.... WHY?? Because they owners of the nursing homes can only charge so much for those patients.... (I.E. less profit than private pay patients....) Ohio spends more per person on nursing home care than all but five states. Ohio has more nursing homes than all but two states. So what they are claiming is false, because the State does not fund that many facilities...... "MOST" of what the State pays out is for the Medicaid patients.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Some interesting statistics: Nursing facility reimbursement in the United States (1) 8 percent Medicare; 68 percent Medicaid; 23 percent private pay. Take a look at the rest www.efmoody.com/longterm/nursingstatistics.html In California when the Republicans block passage of the budget (this happens annually) nursing homes don't get paid, they have to go to the bank, get a loan, pay interest to stay open until a budget passes. Some don't make it and go belly up.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
John Kasich will be the first Ohio governor in a generation to forgo the secure confines of the state-owned Governor's Residence in Bexley in favor of his private residence, which means taxpayers will pay for security improvements at Kasich's home near Westerville. The size of that bill, however, might never be known publicly. Kasich's spokesman refused to discuss security arrangements for the future governor, his wife and two daughters. The State Highway Patrol, which is responsible for guarding the governor and his family, also won't comment on the cost of upgrading Kasich's home. Kasich's 4,400-square-foot home sits amid 10 acres in Genoa Township near Hoover Reservoir. The Delaware County auditor valued the property at $759,500 in 2008. In addition to providing around-the-clock security at the Kasich home, including a checkpoint to restrict access to the gravel road leading to the property, the patrol will continue to guard the official residence in Bexley. Kasich has said he'll use the state-owned home for ceremonial functions. Lt. Gary Lewis, a patrol spokesman, said money for the improvements to Kasich's property will come out of a $6.4 million fund earmarked for security and investigations, including the governor's patrol guards. "We will utilize those resources from that fund to do what we're statutorily authorized to do," Lewis said, suggesting that the security enhancements could be absorbed within the existing budget. Later, however, Lewis said the patrol might need to request additional money to cover the costs. http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/01/02/copy/security-upgrade-price-tag-withheld.html?sid=101 Grandma and Grandpa are either going to have to tighten their belts where these austerity measures will apply, but hey, at least they pay enough to allow this governor's home to be upgraded with all the modern security measures money can buy. Guess if he pisses off enough Ohioans, he'll need this added security.
He was made and paid for by GE. I liked him when he was the governor though.
I haven't heard anybody complain about him yet, everybody I know thinks he's doing the right thing...... Guess the Liberals don't though...... LOL.... As far as the "SUPPOSED" TV ads go, haven't seen one yet.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
That's called the culling of the herd. But there's all kinds of other stuff that gets reembursed too besides Medicare/ Medicaid, such as certain types of maintainence and construction, and other services. Of course back in the good old seventies in my area the trend was to open a rest home, and then build your personal estate on the profits you made by feeding the patients peanut butter sandwiches three times a day. And everyone wonders why nursing homes are now so regulated.
Those are interesting statistics..... I had to put my mother into a nursing home back in 1999.... When I was inquiring about getting her into one they were telling me they were 70-75% private/insurance pay and 25-30% Medicaid... at least that's the way I remember it..... So either I remembered incorrectly... LOL.... or maybe they were meaning all of the other homes they were affiliated with were the same way.... But I do remember them saying that once she ran out of money and went on Medicaid, that she could stay there as long as they had a Medicaid bed open at that time. If not,then I would have to move her to another facility that had a Medicaid bed open......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I used to do maintenance at one place in Middletown, Ohio that I couldn't figure out how they could stay in business. The were using a house about 100 years old, (and it really looked older than that to tell you the truth) and had anywhere from 3-8 people in a room depending on the size of it.... I would have thought there would have been regulations against having that many people in one room.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I remember that. Yes, some people tend to forget that regulation follows abuse - its not the other way around.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Around here nursing homes are required to post the number to report abuse and allow patients (or their families) access to a phone to make the call. But then California is communist.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
That's a good one!
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
I am so sick and tired of these moochers thinking that they have a right to steal money from my family. Screw them all.
Uh. We do. If you like Europe so much why don't you move there?
Lets get this straight. I'm anti murder. Murderers should be killed. Hope that makes it clear. The government is no substitute for family and friends.
Libertarian ideal? That is no ideal. Amoral is not good enough. The articles were working plenty good. Some just wanted more power. And the articles had the power to tax.
No, after the baby is born, you don't give a rip what happens to that person. In oh so many ways you don't have a clue what it means to be pro life.
Roosevelt was a socialist. You saying his opponents for office were fascists is well laughable.
That better running world never existed, its a fantasy. The world existed just fine before the new deal. The new deal wasn't the day of creation in case you are confused.
Don't be dumb Mike. If you want to pay more you are free to mail them a check. I'll get you a link if you are serious.
What constitutional rights die he violate? Did he enact a gun ban? No that was Clinton. Was he born in another country? No that is Obama. Did he sign a bill trying to take away free speech? No that was passed by the democrats and signed by Bush. Exactly what rights did he take away again?
If you think I'm a nazi you should get the fuck off the site cat squeeze.
Don't believe rumors started by liberals.
Everyone makes mistakes. For example Obamas mama when she wanted a black one. She was a slut.
There is something quite evil in saying a person against murder isn't good because they don't want to be forced to pay for someone elses kids. In the liberal world I should just say killing is ok. No thanks I'm not evil.
My my..There is a glimmer of hope for you afterall. :)
I know I just complimented you but I have to say something different now. Remember when Obama voted to allow babies to be born and the set aside to starve and die. He is a sick mother fucker. I hope he dies a horrible painful natural death.
In oh so many ways you don't have a clue what it means to be pro life. You're full of it Mike. I love babies. It is you liberals that don't give a shit if someone can't make a house payment because they pay to many taxes. Feed the government and fuck the tax payers is the mantra of the sicko liberal party aka democrats.
I feel so much better now. Thanks.
He signed for one of the largest pay raises for state employees ever received and stated he was glad to do it, plus he was a friend to the horse racing industry. When he was president his policies stole my friend's retirement when her S and L decided they knew how to better spend her retirement better than she did.
Blaming Reagan for a crook at a S&L isn't valid.
Think war on drugs.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Should they sell crack at walmart?
I'll blame him just as I would blame Obama if he were president then.
Who's talking about Walmart? For those not behind bars, it is now established that law enforcement officials--now joined by the military forces of the United States--have the power, with few limits, to snoop, sniff, survey, and detain, without warrant or probable cause, in the war against drug trafficking. Property may be seized on slight evidence and forfeited to the state or federal government without proof of the personal guilt of the owner.[16] Finally, to leverage its power, an increasingly imperial federal government has applied intimidating pressures to shop owners and others in the private sector to help implement federal drug policy.[17] Ironically, and tragically, just as the winds of freedom are blowing throughout central and eastern Europe, most Americans and most American politicians say that the solution to "the drug problem" is more repression--and the Bill of Rights be damned. As Peter Rodino, former chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said in expressing his anger at the excesses of the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986, "We have been fighting the war on drugs, but now it seems to me the attack is on the Constitution of the United States."[18] http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-180.html
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Who's talking about Walmart? You are. You said Drugs should be legal. Why wouldn't walmart be able to sell too?
Please quote.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
I'm sure he does, though he seems to have had some sticking point in his life about having liability insurance on his automobile.
#32. To: Skip Intro (#30)
"What makes you think Stone believes that would have been a bad thing? Stone couldn't care less about the living; he's only interested in fetuses. Just look at how many times he calls for those he dislikes to be killed. He would have made a perfect Nazi."
#33. To: Skip Intro (#30)
Stone couldn't care less about the living; he's only interested in fetuses.
#34. To: lucysmom (#29)
"The Reagan who is the hero of the Republican party is largely a mythical figure. He certainly wasn't a defender of Constitutional rights."
#35. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
That seems to be the message of what the Ohio Health Care Association is depicting in their new television advertisements that have been popping up around the dial in response to gutting skilled nursing care, aka nursing homes, by $470 Million dollars.
#36. To: CZ82 (#35)
"MOST" facilities only take a certain percentage of Medicaid (State paid) patients.... WHY?? Because they owners of the nursing homes can only charge so much for those patients.... (I.E. less profit than private pay patients....)
#37. To: CZ82 (#35)
Cost of security upgrade at Kasich's home withheld
#38. To: Ferret Mike (#20)
I liked watching him on Death Valley Days as a boy, and that's abut it.
#39. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
Guess if he pisses off enough Ohioans, he'll need this added security.
#40. To: lucysmom (#36)
In California when the Republicans block passage of the budget (this happens annually) nursing homes don't get paid, they have to go to the bank, get a loan, pay interest to stay open until a budget passes. Some don't make it and go belly up.
#41. To: lucysmom (#36)
Some interesting statistics:
#42. To: mininggold (#40)
And everyone wonders why nursing homes are now so regulated.
#43. To: mininggold (#40)
Of course back in the good old seventies in my area the trend was to open a rest home, and then build your personal estate on the profits you made by feeding the patients peanut butter sandwiches three times a day. And everyone wonders why nursing homes are now so regulated.
#44. To: CZ82 (#42)
I would have thought there would have been regulations against having that many people in one room.....
#45. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
#46. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#47. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
Well it is sure strange how Europe and other places take care of their old and young efficiency, economically and humanely, but somehow we can't.
#48. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
And it is strange to see someone who allegedly is so pro life and focused on abortion not seem to understand that unless you protect people as they get older or gravely ill too, your pro life words are very empty to behold.
#49. To: lucysmom (#24)
Our first government under the Articles of Confederation were closer to the Libertarian ideal, but that wasn't working out so well so the founding fathers drafted the Constitution and established a new government with greater powers including taxation.
#50. To: A K A Stone (#48)
#51. To: lucysmom (#24)
That is what they wanted for the US, a fascist government.
#52. To: lucysmom (#25)
The world ran quite a lot better before the progressive/liberal/commies came around and made all these promises to steal from productive individuals.
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#27)
And he can't see that Reagan was a huge problem as far as taxes went.
#54. To: lucysmom (#29)
The Reagan who is the hero of the Republican party is largely a mythical figure. He certainly wasn't a defender of Constitutional rights.
#55. To: Skip Intro (#30)
What makes you think Stone believes that would have been a bad thing? Stone couldn't care less about the living; he's only interested in fetuses. Just look at how many times he calls for those he dislikes to be killed. He would have made a perfect Nazi.
#56. To: lucysmom (#31)
#57. To: Ferret Mike (#32)
He also seems to miss the fact that although Reagan whom he thinks as a demi- god talked in 1983 about his staunch opposition to abortion in a book he had published, he had legalized abortion in California as governor in the late 1960s, he never sought a constitutional ban on abortion.
#58. To: lucysmom (#33)
There is something perverse in passionately protecting the life of a fetus while campaigning against that same fetus getting a fair shake in life after its delivered into the world.
#59. To: mininggold (#38)
He was made and paid for by GE. I liked him when he was the governor though.
#60. To: mininggold (#40)
That's called the culling of the herd.
#61. To: Ferret Mike (#50)
No, after the baby is born, you don't give a rip what happens to that person.
#62. To: All (#61)
#63. To: A K A Stone (#59)
My my..There is a glimmer of hope for you afterall. :)
#64. To: mininggold (#63)
#65. To: A K A Stone (#54)
Exactly what rights did he take away again?
#66. To: lucysmom (#65)
#67. To: A K A Stone (#64)
Blaming Reagan for a crook at a S&L isn't valid.
#68. To: A K A Stone (#66)
Should they sell crack at walmart?
#69. To: lucysmom (#68)
Should they sell crack at walmart?
#70. To: A K A Stone (#69)
You said Drugs should be legal.
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