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Title: Nursing Home Industry Unleashes Scathing Advert Decrying Governor Kasich's Proposed Cuts
Source: clevelandleader.com
URL Source: http://www.clevelandleader.com/taxonomy/term/13
Published: May 15, 2011
Author: Eugene McCormick
Post Date: 2011-05-15 12:25:50 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 7130
Comments: 70

Remember when the Republicans were talking about "death panels" during the national health care debate last year? That seems to be the message of what the Ohio Health Care Association is depicting in their new television advertisements that have been popping up around the dial in response to gutting skilled nursing care, aka nursing homes, by $470 Million dollars. The scary thing about it though, is if the cuts do come, not only jobs will be lost but likely lives as well as senior citizens will need to find new options for long-term health care.

With the loss in funding, facilities such as Metro Health Center for Skilled Nursing Facility here in Cleveland would either close or services down to a bare minimum level.

Laughably, Kasich says he is being bullied by the group telling the Plain Dealer:

"For them to get their way would continue a precedent of bullying, intimidation and the power of special interests in our state."

If there is someone who knows a thing or two about bullying, it is Kasich himself who famously said following his election.

"We need you on the bus, and if you're not on the bus, we will run over you with the bus. And I'm not kidding.".
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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

The scary thing about it though, is if the cuts do come,

Maybe the taxpayers can get some of their money back and save for their own retirement instead of someone elses.

Maybe the taxpayers will be able to take their kids on a vacation.

Maybe that will have to pay less taxes giving them the opportunity to send their kids to college.

Maybe if they spend less people will have more money in their pocket to buy granny a mobile wheel chair.

The possibilities are endless. I'm excited.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-15   12:35:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Maybe the taxpayers can get some of their money back and save for their own retirement instead of someone elses.

Or maybe the taxpayers will have to choose between college for the kids and care for grandma.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-15   12:44:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lucysmom (#2)

Or maybe the taxpayers will have to choose between college for the kids and care for grandma.

With more of their own money in their pocket they will have a better chance. They wont have to feel guilty about taking stolen money.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-15   12:47:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#3)

With more of their own money in their pocket they will have a better chance.

You'd better buy some good insurance to cover nursing home care now or have a whole lot of money in your pocket.

They wont have to feel guilty about taking stolen money.

There isn't much of a government to steal your money in Somalia.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-15   12:56:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: lucysmom (#8)

There isn't much of a government to steal your money in Somalia.

Somalia???

We don't live in Somalia. At least I don't.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-15   13:00:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

We don't live in Somalia. At least I don't.

You want to turn my country into a Somalia.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-15   13:01:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lucysmom (#12)

We don't live in Somalia. At least I don't.

You want to turn my country into a Somalia.

So the nation was Somalia at its founding?

Was it Somalia prior to that piece of shit FDR?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-15   13:03:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#14)

So the nation was Somalia at its founding?

Our first government under the Articles of Confederation were closer to the Libertarian ideal, but that wasn't working out so well so the founding fathers drafted the Constitution and established a new government with greater powers including taxation.

If the people you admire, who hated FDR along with you, had their way, the US could well have gone down the fascist road with Hitler. That is what they wanted for the US, a fascist government.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-15   13:20:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: lucysmom (#24)

"If the people you admire, who hated FDR along with you, had their way, the US could well have gone down the fascist road with Hitler. That is what they wanted for the US, a fascist government."

I doubt he knows about the coup Prescott Bush and others tried to get away with to create a government simular to the one they admired most in the 1930s which was the one in Germany that gave us holicosts and world war.

And he can't see that Reagan was a huge problem as far as taxes went.

The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 was, at the time, the largest peacetime tax increase in U.S. history. And it happened on Reagan's watch.

Reagan signed measures that increased federal taxes every year of his presidency except the first and the last. Such as a higher gasoline levy, a 1986 tax reform deal that included the largest corporate tax increase in American history, and a substantial raise in payroll taxes in 1983 as part of a deal to keep Social Security solvent.

Under Reagan, wealthy Americans benefitted from Reagan's tax policies, blue- collar Americans paid a higher percentage of their income in taxes when Reagan left office than when he came in.

The last thing we need in this country is a pander to the rich and tax the middle class and poor president like Reagan was.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-15   13:29:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#27)

The last thing we need in this country is a pander to the rich and tax the middle class and poor president like Reagan was.

The Reagan who is the hero of the Republican party is largely a mythical figure. He certainly wasn't a defender of Constitutional rights.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-15   13:35:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: lucysmom (#29)

The Reagan who is the hero of the Republican party is largely a mythical figure. He certainly wasn't a defender of Constitutional rights.

What constitutional rights die he violate?

Did he enact a gun ban? No that was Clinton.

Was he born in another country? No that is Obama.

Did he sign a bill trying to take away free speech? No that was passed by the democrats and signed by Bush.

Exactly what rights did he take away again?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-15   23:20:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: A K A Stone (#54)

Exactly what rights did he take away again?

Think war on drugs.

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-16   0:05:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: lucysmom (#65)

Should they sell crack at walmart?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-16   0:13:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#68. To: A K A Stone (#66)

Should they sell crack at walmart?

Who's talking about Walmart?

For those not behind bars, it is now established that law enforcement officials--now joined by the military forces of the United States--have the power, with few limits, to snoop, sniff, survey, and detain, without warrant or probable cause, in the war against drug trafficking. Property may be seized on slight evidence and forfeited to the state or federal government without proof of the personal guilt of the owner.[16] Finally, to leverage its power, an increasingly imperial federal government has applied intimidating pressures to shop owners and others in the private sector to help implement federal drug policy.[17]

Ironically, and tragically, just as the winds of freedom are blowing throughout central and eastern Europe, most Americans and most American politicians say that the solution to "the drug problem" is more repression--and the Bill of Rights be damned. As Peter Rodino, former chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said in expressing his anger at the excesses of the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986, "We have been fighting the war on drugs, but now it seems to me the attack is on the Constitution of the United States."[18]

http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-180.html

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