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Title: Up to 44M more uninsured under GOP budget
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Published: May 12, 2011
Author: AP
Post Date: 2011-05-12 09:42:09 by go65
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The House Republican budget would leave up to 44 million more low-income people uninsured as the federal government cuts states' Medicaid funding by about one-third over the next 10 years, nonpartisan groups said in a report issued Tuesday. The analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Urban Institute concluded that Medicaid's role as the nation's safety net health care program would be "significantly compromised ... with no obvious alternative to take its place," if the GOP budget is adopted.
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#9. To: go65 (#8)
I was talking about the news agency that actually printed it..... What kind of "macro" are you talking about, there are many kinds?????
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
You were ranting. If you want to actually critique the study, be my guest. Good luck!
"Thats because your basically and idiot." Is that what you call that?????? LOL...... I figured 2-3 pages and calling people MFs was a rant.... Critiquing a lie is pretty easy really...... The story is just a ploy to get people to believe we have to keep spending money like a drunken sailor and tax the piss out of the rich... Or else a whole lotta people are gonna die from lack of healthcare..... LOL..... Same old tired BS argument they've been using for 30-40 years..... Now if this article is also predicting that unemployment is going to skyrocket then it would be "somewhat" believeable..... If they are predicting ObozoCare is gonna cause it, then it would be "MORE" believeable.... You want more people to be able to afford health insurance????? Then create jobs for them, not handouts from the taxpayer....and repeal ObozoCare... But that isn't gonna happen until Obozo and his henchmen are gone..... They want you dependent on them plain and simple, "dey's the Mastas, yous the "Slave"....... You're just a stupid drone to them, they only want your vote....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
You might want to read some of the analysis of the Ryan plan. It doesn't cut costs, it shifts them onto seniors and the poor. If you want to stop "spending money like a drunken sailor", adopt single-payer and let the government negotiate with providers / pharmas like the rest of the world. We pay more for health care and get less than just about every western nation. The GOP's plan would raise those costs while further cutting care.
"Thats because your basically and idiot." That is exactly correct. We spend more per capita than any other country and 42 million people don't have coverage. Americans are already paying the cost of universal health care, just not getting it.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Thanx, you just proved my point...... The biggest bunch of liars that exist on the face of the earth......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
So how do you plan to get "GOOD" healthcare while telling the doctors to stick their profits up their ass????? That's why some doctors are already dropping Medicare patients...... But then again a bunch of the doctors (estimated at over 300,000) will retire and tell the government to stick it up their ass!!!!! So that means a whole bunch of office help become suddenly unemployed and getting a doctors appointment will take 6-12 months...... Good luck getting a heart transplant from a med-tech....... LOL......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Lets see, 20 million choose "NOT" to purchase insurance... and another 10 are illegal aliens..... So lets see what does that leave..... OOOhhh about 12 million.... HHHmmmm.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
By telling insurance providers to get out of town. Last year -- as the number of Americans without health insurance grew to nearly 51 million -- the five largest for-profit insurers (Aetna, CIGNA, Humana, UnitedHealth and WellPoint) had combined profits of $11.7 billion. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Under what authority would that be? People have a right to contract.
So lets see what does that leave..... OOOhhh about 12 million.... HHHmmmm..... When one of the uninsured 20 million falls off his roof and breaks his back, who pays for his health care? As for the rest - you would rather see 12 million go without health insurance coverage than allow an illegal alien get medical care? To not have universal coverage is to be "penny wise and pound foolish".
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Do you remember the argument against the public option? That's how.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
And so exactly how much "TOTAL" money was taken in by those companies last year, 3-400 billion???? And they only made 11.7 billion in profits..... So that's what, a 2-3% profit margin!!!!!! That's chumpchange..... LOL..... Hell your local electric provider won't even furnish you electricity for "LESS" than 40% profit.......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
"Re "More family doctors charging patients annual fee" (May 3): It should come as no surprise that some physicians are resorting to charging an annual fee in order to make ends meet, as the reimbursements we receive from both public and private insurance programs continue to trend downward while the amount of time spent on paperwork increases. And, yes, this could continue to drive up costs, but the fault lies not with physicians. Rather, it is our fragmented, inefficient, wasteful, profit-driven health care system that has created this situation..." The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
He does when he goes back to work..... You seem to forget it was that persons decision "NOT" to buy insurance, he took his chances and lost.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Umm - that sounds a bit high to me. Would you please back that claim up.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
We know it's not the doctors fault, it never was.... And so who created this mess of healthcare you ask????? Tuh Duhhhhhhh.... Lawyers and your very own stupid state and federal governments!!!!! Through BS lawsuits, laws and restrictions.... And so you expect those same dumb SOBs who screwed it up to have enough smarts to fix what they "phucked" up...... ROTFLMAO...... They don't want to, they are making way too much money off of your misery.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I used to do equipment maintenance at one of the Ohio Edison Offices a few years back. They are owned by First Energy Corporation, in fact the company I worked for at that time was also owned by First Energy. But anyway, I was talking to one of the guys in the Funds Office about profits one day. He asked me what my company normally tries to get in profits and I told him 15-20%. He kind of laughed and said if they clear less than 40% there is hell to pay, having to explain to First Energy why profits were so low...... Then he asked me why First Energy owned us when we has such a low margin.... I didn't know what to say to him at the time but found out the truth later. Our company president just up and resigned one day, he was pissed off at First Energy. I come to find out First Energy was interferring in the normal day to day operation of the company by insisting we up our profit margin to 38-42%!!!! Well to make a long story short when we started quoting jobs to our customers at First Energys rate,we started loosing our customers in droves. And that's why I eventually had to get a job with another Mechanical Contractor..... It wasn't long after that First Energy sold them to a private investor.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
By adopting systems similar to countries who pay less and get better care - see Switzerland & Israel as examples. You don't improve care by driving millions more into the land of uninsured.
"Thats because your basically and idiot." The ability to sue is a free market remedy - would you limit that? My stupid state did tort reform decades ago.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Ain't so in California Electricity rates for California industry are significantly higher than those in most other states, notes Jack Stewart, the manufacturers’ president. By law, he added, utilities such as PG&E receive a guaranteed profit of 11 percent. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Texas has one of the strictest limitations of any state on medical malpractice lawsuits. And they have the largest percentage of uninsured citizens of any state.
"Thats because your basically and idiot." I suspect tort reform ain't the answer. I also suspect that universal health insurance would cut back on the number of medical malpractice suits and the amount of awards.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
This is a completely meaningless statistic. Insurance is not the END goal. The END goal is good health. Insurance is one means of getting there. There are others, like regular exercise and a healthy diet. Prior to the federal government getting their sticky fingers in healthcare with Medicare and Medicaid, healthcare cost far less as a percentage of GDP than it does now (6% versus 17%). We were also generally healthier. It's a complete LIE that the majority of the elderly were dieing in the streets prior to Medicare and Medicaid. Go ask anyone in their 70s or 80s whether life was better in the 1950s than it is now. The overwhelming answer will be yes. The government has destroyed the the healthcare system in the country. Now they are inventing false measures to justify more destruction. No thanks. Been there. Done that.
Of course. go56 is the master of meaningless statistics. And when you point out that his statistics are meaningless, he'll either a. avoid the facts, keep repeating what has been disproven, or He's pretty funny... in a pathetic way.
List of those unable to think: Life was different in the 50s, that doesn't mean it was better. One dad on our block died in his 30s of a heart attack leaving two small kids behind. Our little local hospital were he died is now big, both in size and in reputation as a world class center for heart and vascular care. A mom in her 40s had a stroke and was never well enough after that to come home. Her daughter was my friend. I don't know where you live, but it ain't the real world.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
And how many of them are illegals, temporary immigrant agricultural hires and younger people who just don't want to purchase insurance???? Then how many of them are already on Medicare and Medicaid which are almost free???????? So that's gonna leave what a couple of %.......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I also suspect that universal health insurance would cut back on the number of medical malpractice suits and the amount of awards. And do you know who is against tort reform-----the Dumbassocrats...... And do you know why that is????? Because most of the campaign contributions from lawyers go to them.... So in return they have loosened laws up concerning lawsuits, so the lawyers can make a killing off of the people in this country.... especially by ambulance chasing!!!!! Do you know what the average hourly rate is to go see a lawyer????? Right at $300 per hr!!!!!
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
And since we are on this subject of Universal healthcare, just what exactly do you think it should cover??????? A few things, many things, everything????? Well just go out and get a price quote on an healthcare insurance policy sometime.... You will find it is cheaper for policies with fewer items of coverage, and more expensive as you go up in the amount of items you want covered.... It's just like your house and car policies, the more you want covered the more expensive it's going to be..... So for those of you who think that universal healthcare for everybody in this country that covers everything is going to be cheap, well think again.... It's already expensive as hell now just wait till it's supposedly free!!!!!
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
I wish! Right now I'm paying $475.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
A friend pays $850 a month just for herself. That's has got to be one of those cleaver sayings people hear and repeat mindlessly just because it sounds good. If you thought about it, you'd realize it doesn't make sense - other oecd countries with universal health care AND better outcomes than the US spend less per capita than we do. They cover ALL their people and we leave out 51 million. That supposedly free stuff is just plain stupid. If anyone believed that, we'd have universal health care right now instead of arguing about cost.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Right, and that never happens today. Grow up.
You gen Xers with your lack of historical perspective crack me up.
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
And you hippie dippie baby boomers with your heads stuck in the 1960s crack me up.
Do you really think ol geezers of every generation don't long for the days when they were young and strong, no matter what decade that occurred? My mother longs for the thirties, she didn't like the fifties at all.
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
Anyone? Or just whites?
"Thats because your basically and idiot." I have 2 healthcare plans right now, one is through the military and I pay $460 per year. The other is through my place of employment and I pay $6.50 per hour for it. Times 40 hrs per week which equals $260, times 52 weeks a year which equals $13,520... And it ain't worth squat.... I can't drop it because it was collectively bargained for, so I'm stuck with it.... You know what I could do with that $6.50 per hour going into my retirement mutual funds???? A whole hell of a lot..... You know how many times I've been to the doctor since I got my insurance through my employer????? Once!!!! For an ear infection..... So 1 visit in 12 years for an ear infection has cost me $167,760!!!!!! Now do you see why some people just don't buy healthcare insurance, it just isn't worth in in a lot of cases..... And so the Dumbassocrats in all of their self appointed infinite wisdom want to force people to buy something they really don't need or want..... And that is going to solve the problem......ROTFLMAO...... Talk about looking up a dead dogs ass and trying to see the light at the end of the tunnel....... It aint gonna happen......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Or you could recognize that the younger, working you is paying for the older, sicker you's hip replacement. And so the Dumbassocrats in all of their self appointed infinite wisdom want to force people to buy something they really don't need or want..... Some of those people become a burden on the state because they didn't accurately foretell what their needs would be in the future.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Nobody in their right mind would print such BS as this.... unless they are a Libtard..... Is that some sort of macro that you wrote there?
#10. To: CZ82 (#9)
I was talking about the news agency that actually printed it.....
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET
#11. To: go65 (#10)
You were ranting.
#12. To: CZ82 (#11)
The story is just a ploy to get people to believe we have to keep spending money like a drunken sailor and tax the piss out of the rich... Or else a whole lotta people are gonna die from lack of healthcare..... LOL..... Same old tired BS argument they've been using for 30-40 years.....
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET
#13. To: go65 (#12)
#14. To: go65 (#12)
#15. To: go65 (#12)
If you want to stop "spending money like a drunken sailor", adopt single-payer and let the government negotiate with providers / pharmas like the rest of the world. We pay more for health care and get less than just about every western nation. The GOP's plan would raise those costs while further cutting care.
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
www.democraticleader.gov
#17. To: go65 (#12)
adopt single-payer and let the government negotiate with providers / pharmas like the rest of the world..
#18. To: lucysmom (#15)
and 42 million people don't have coverage.
#19. To: CZ82 (#17)
So how do you plan to get "GOOD" healthcare while telling the doctors to stick their profits up their ass????? That's why some doctors are already dropping Medicare patients......
#20. To: lucysmom (#19)
By telling insurance providers to get out of town.
#21. To: CZ82 (#18)
Lets see, 20 million choose "NOT" to purchase insurance... and another 10 are illegal aliens.....
#22. To: A K A Stone (#20)
Under what authority would that be? People have a right to contract.
#23. To: lucysmom (#19)
Last year -- as the number of Americans without health insurance grew to nearly 51 million -- the five largest for-profit insurers (Aetna, CIGNA, Humana, UnitedHealth and WellPoint) had combined profits of $11.7 billion.
#24. To: CZ82 (#17)
So that means a whole bunch of office help become suddenly unemployed and getting a doctors appointment will take 6-12 months......
#25. To: lucysmom (#21)
When one of the uninsured 20 million falls off his roof and breaks his back, who pays for his health care?
#26. To: CZ82 (#23)
Hell your local electric provider won't even furnish you electricity for "LESS" than 40% profit.......
#27. To: lucysmom (#24)
And, yes, this could continue to drive up costs, but the fault lies not with physicians. Rather, it is our fragmented, inefficient, wasteful, profit-driven health care system that has created this situation..."
#28. To: lucysmom (#26)
Umm - that sounds a bit high to me. Would you please back that claim up.
#29. To: CZ82 (#17)
So how do you plan to get "GOOD" healthcare while telling the doctors to stick their profits up their ass?????
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET
#30. To: CZ82 (#27)
Tuh Duhhhhhhh.... Lawyers and your very own stupid state and federal governments!!!!! Through BS lawsuits, laws and restrictions....
#31. To: CZ82 (#28)
But anyway, I was talking to one of the guys in the Funds Office about profits one day. He asked me what my company normally tries to get in profits and I told him 15-20%. He kind of laughed and said if they clear less than 40% there is hell to pay, having to explain to First Energy why profits were so low...... Then he asked me why First Energy owned us when we has such a low margin...
#32. To: lucysmom (#30)
My stupid state did tort reform decades ago.
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET
#33. To: go65 (#32)
#34. To: go65, capitalist eric (#0)
(Edited)
Up to 44M more uninsured under GOP budget
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#35. To: jwpegler (#34)
This is a completely meaningless statistic.
b. filter you, because you tenaciously STICK to the facts. 
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#36. To: jwpegler (#34)
Go ask anyone in their 70s or 80s whether life was better in the 1950s than it is now. The overwhelming answer will be yes.
#37. To: go65 (#32)
And they have the largest percentage of uninsured citizens of any state.
#38. To: lucysmom (#33)
I suspect tort reform ain't the answer.
#39. To: lucysmom (#38)
universal health insurance
#40. To: CZ82 (#38)
Do you know what the average hourly rate is to go see a lawyer????? Right at $300 per hr!!!!!
#41. To: CZ82 (#39)
So for those of you who think that universal healthcare for everybody in this country that covers everything is going to be cheap, well think again.... It's already expensive as hell now just wait till it's supposedly free!!!!!
#42. To: lucysmom (#36)
One dad on our block died in his 30s of a heart attack leaving two small kids behind
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#43. To: jwpegler (#34)
Go ask anyone in their 70s or 80s whether life was better in the 1950s than it is now. The overwhelming answer will be yes.
#44. To: Rek (#43)
You gen Xers with your lack of historical perspective crack me up.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#45. To: jwpegler (#44)
And you hippie dippie baby boomers with your heads stuck in the 1960s crack me up.
#46. To: jwpegler (#34)
Go ask anyone in their 70s or 80s whether life was better in the 1950s than it is now. The overwhelming answer will be yes.
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET
#47. To: lucysmom (#41)
A friend pays $850 a month just for herself.
#48. To: CZ82 (#47)
You know how many times I've been to the doctor since I got my insurance through my employer????? Once!!!! For an ear infection..... So 1 visit in 12 years for an ear infection has cost me $167,760!!!!!! Now do you see why some people just don't buy healthcare insurance, it just isn't worth in in a lot of cases.....
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