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Title: Growing number of Republicans favor a third party, poll finds (52%)
Source: Yahoo News - The Ticket
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theti ... favor-a-third-party-poll-finds
Published: May 10, 2011
Author: Rachel Rose Hartman
Post Date: 2011-05-10 14:42:36 by Hondo68
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Keywords: Fifty-two percent of Republica, support a third party, 60% of tea party
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For the first time in Gallup history, more Republicans than Democrats support a new third major political party, according to a new Gallup survey.

Fifty-two percent of Republicans say they support a third party because the two major parties do such "a poor job" of representing the people. Just 33 percent of Democrats felt similarly--and, as expected, self-described independents were the most forceful backers of a third party, with 68 percent indicating support.

Gallup reports this is the first time "a significantly higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats" favor a third party.

The poll suggests that tea party supporters are driving this change: Sixty percent of tea party supporters say a third party is necessary, compared with 44 percent of tea party opponents.

In the 2010 elections, many Americans voted for tea party-affiliated candidates over establishment Republicans in primaries across the country. But the tea party shuns organization and formal structure, which will greatly complicate attempts to make it into a formal party any time soon. Even far more concerted third-party movements have historically made a negligible impact on the current two-party American political system.

Americans who don't feel at home with either party have several new organizations to which to turn this cycle, including the centrist "No Limits" group, founded by Democratic fundraiser Nancy Jacobson and GOP strategist Mark McKinnon and advised by famous centrists such as Republican-turned Independent Michael Bloomberg, mayor of New York City.

Overall, a majority of Americans--52 percent--say a third party is necessary, with just 40 percent saying that the two major parties do an "adequate job" representing them. The total number of Americans who support a third party is down from August, when 58 percent supported the idea. (1 image)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

This is why Boehner gave the speech he gave just last night.

Proxy IP's are amusing.....lmao

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-10   15:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

When communism fell the party was split into two major factions.

Faction A wanted to end communism because it did not work.

Faction B wanted to become even more communist because they felt communism collapsed because the party ideology had become diluted.

That is the predicament the modern GOP is in.

The Tea Party is the faction that won't accept conservative ideology failed so want to ramp it up and go full bore right wing thinking that will work (tax cuts did not generate economic growth? Obviously taxes were not cut enough! Cut taxes even more! - that sort of craziness).

The GOP does have factions that realize the small govt, trickle down ideology failed but they are fewer and they have left the party (like I did).

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-10   15:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0)

Growing number of Republicans favor a third party,

Shouldn't we be working on getting a Second Party before we start worrying about a third one?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2011-05-10   15:25:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Godwinson (#2)

The Tea Party is the faction that won't accept conservative ideology failed

Wrong, they've rejected the neocon bushbot libtard philosophy, and are seeking a return to a conservative and constitutional form of government. What they're missing, is a party to represent them.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg...
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46

Hondo68  posted on  2011-05-10   17:50:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#3)

Shouldn't we be working on getting a Second Party

Point taken. An alternative is sorely needed. We're screwed until people reject the phoney choices presented by the D&R fraud.


"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg...
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46

Hondo68  posted on  2011-05-10   17:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: hondo68 (#4)

Neocon or paleocon - it is a failed ideology. Now the Tea Party is doing what the Marxits/Commies did when the USSR collapsed. The commies if you recall (you probably don't) were declaring the reason the USSR failed was because they were never really pure Marxist or pure Communist. That if they really carried out actual Marxist policies and were strident about it the USSR and communism would thrive.

It is like being in a hole and the hole digger is deluded enough to think he can get out of the hole by doubling his effort and digging deeper.

Case in point. Tax cuts did not stimulate or add jobs to the economy nor did it increase revenue by growing the economy via investments. Thus the theory is a proven failure (especially since Clinton raised taxes and the economy grew, etc back in the 90s). But the Republican ideological reaction is to declare that the tax cuts were not deep enough and if we only cut deeper then we will see this promised result.

The Republicans/Conservatives right now are doubling down on failure because they don't want to admit, can't admit, that their ideology is failed and unworkable.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-10   18:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#0)

famous centrists such as Republican-turned Independent Michael Bloomberg

Correction:

...famous opportunists such as Democrat turned Republican turned Independent Micheal Bloomberg..

The GOP lost me during the Bush administration.

Sure there are a few good Republicans like Ron Paul, Rand Paul, and Jim DeMint, but most of the GOP establishment HATES them.

We need to do something else.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-05-10   22:49:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#3)

Shouldn't we be working on getting a Second Party before we start worrying about a third one?

Nice.

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-05-11   2:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Godwinson (#6)

You do realize, don't you, that people are laffing at you?

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-05-11   2:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Wood_Chopper (#9)

I think I scare your side to hell and back to be honest with you.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-11   10:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Godwinson (#10)

(me)You do realize, don't you, that people are laffing at you?

(Godwinson)I think I scare your side to hell and back to be honest with you.

My side?

Now people are laffing at you even more.

Tag line: I wuz HACKED, cuz I SAY so!

Wood_Chopper  posted on  2011-05-13   2:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Wood_Chopper (#11) (Edited)

My side?

Yea, right wing goof offs. So called patriots who are actually traitors. Guys that think the Tea Party is a real grass roots effort. You know, the Archie Bunker types like you.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-13   11:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Godwinson (#12)

So called patriots who are actually traitors.

Hey, Destro. Why don't you post some more pictures of dead American soldiers and marines and joke about it. Maybe we should start calling you John Wayne.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-05-13   11:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rudgear (#13)

Hey, Destro. Why don't you post some more pictures of dead American soldiers and marines and joke about it. Maybe we should start calling you John Wayne.

Destro from the GI Joe movie? Find a post where Destro did that. Or is it what your gay lover, yukon said Destro did and you accepted what your gay lover told you is true?

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-13   11:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Godwinson (#14)

Tell you what, you go back to your original handle and I'll begin to take what you have to say seriously.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-05-13   11:30:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Rudgear (#15)

Who says Destro is my original handle? Want to see my Birth Certificate also? You LP queers really did consider yukon your leader didn't you?

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-13   11:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Godwinson (#16)

My offer stands, Destro. Stop lying and misrepresenting yourself.

war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.

Rudgear  posted on  2011-05-13   11:55:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Godwinson (#12)

Guys that think the Tea Party is a real grass roots effort. You know, the Archie Bunker types like you.

You mean those who don't even realize that the Boston Tea Party was essentially a revolt against the biggest corporation and monopoly in the world at that time. A corporation that had lobbied a government to regulate a market in it's own favor as a trade off, at the expense of it's own citizens?

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-05-13   11:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Rudgear (#17)

My offer stands, Destro. Stop lying and misrepresenting yourself.

You need to seek help for your obsessive and grandiose tendencies.

"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"

Rek  posted on  2011-05-13   11:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Rek (#18)

You mean those who don't even realize that the Boston Tea Party was essentially a revolt against the biggest corporation and monopoly in the world at that time. A corporation that had lobbied a government to regulate a market in it's own favor as a trade off, at the expense of it's own citizens?

Yea, a protest at that time against a tax CUT!!!!

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-13   12:03:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rek, Rudgear (#19)

He thinks I am a GI Joe character.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-13   12:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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