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Title: Calif. teachers begin week of budget protests
Source: Yahoo/AP
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110509 ... us_california_teacher_protests
Published: May 9, 2011
Author: ADAM WEINTRAUB
Post Date: 2011-05-09 15:04:56 by socalv8
Keywords: UTLA, teacher, union
Views: 43516
Comments: 66

SACRAMENTO, Calif. – Dozens of California teachers rallied Monday in downtown San Francisco, launching a week of statewide protests over the threat of deep budget cuts to public education.

The demonstrations and teach-ins were planned as schools face the prospect of mass layoffs, program cuts and shorter school years. The protests will culminate Friday with a sit-in at the state Capitol.

"We're here to make a statement," said Dennis Kelly, president of United Educators of San Francisco, which represents more than 6,000 employees of the San Francisco Unified School District.

Kelly was among about 100 school personnel who gathered at 5:30 a.m. and marched to school district headquarters. About 60 then boarded a chartered bus to Sacramento to protest and lobby lawmakers.

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#26. To: Skip Intro (#25)

I am still waiting for the Republicans to show us which nation on earth has their ideal education system?

None. That is why they want to retreat to some imagined 1950s era educational system from the American past. Which is funny because that was when the Federal govt got involved in education due to Sputnik and made the system more socialized.

The right wing goobers don't live in reality. They live in a fantasy world which they made up.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-09   19:28:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#22)

Nobody "loves" abortion. Whenever you frame your argument with that as the premise, you look stupid.

So why does the Left defend it so much then????? I thought they had so much "EMPATHY"??????

SO how should I have framed my argument so I wouldn't look stupid???? Or is that what happens when someone thinks like a Libtard for 1-2 minutes, they look stupid!!!! I think I need to go wash my brain out with soap and burn my keyboard.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-09   19:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: CZ82, war (#27)

Nobody "loves" abortion

So why does the Left defend it so much then?????

Ronald Reagan and the Republican Congress of California legalized abortion before Roe V Wade and once Reagan was president nominated judges that upheld that decision.

Reagan also passed gun restriction laws as gov and president.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-09   19:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: CZ82 (#27)

I support a woman's right to do with her body what she deems best for it. The Framers had no issue with it.

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war  posted on  2011-05-09   19:33:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#29)

I support a woman's right to do with her body what she deems best for it. The Framers had no issue with it.

So they have "EMPATHY" for the woman, but not the child????? WHY????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-09   19:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: CZ82 (#30)

What child?

America...My Kind Of Place...

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war  posted on  2011-05-09   19:50:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Godwinson (#28)

Ronald Reagan and the Republican Congress of California legalized abortion before Roe V Wade and once Reagan was president nominated judges that upheld that decision.

Abortion was actually somewhat legal back in the 1700s in this country...

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-09   19:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: war (#31)

What child?

The one in her womb....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-09   19:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: CZ82 (#21)

More single moms to give mega handouts to.. This also encourages the father to not take responsibility for her and the child through marriage, or pay child support....

More government sponsored orphanages...... That way they get an early start on brainwashing the kids into socialism.

More lazy, stupid POS Democrat voters on Welfare, Food stamps, WIC....etc..etc..

More losers on the dole means they have to collect more taxes....

Behold, the empathy with which the right blesses our nation and the world.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-09   20:10:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: lucysmom (#34)

So who said I was pro-life????? I was asking why the Left wasn't???

So what would happen if people practiced abstinence instead????

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-09   20:15:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: CZ82 (#35) (Edited)

So what would happen if people practiced abstinence instead????

How long do you think they would have to practice before getting it right?

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-09   20:26:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: CZ82 (#33)

A child exists after being born. What is in her womb is various things at various stages of development.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
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war  posted on  2011-05-09   20:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: lucysmom (#36)

Ha...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-09   20:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: lucysmom (#36)

How long do you think they would have to practice before getting it right?

Who knows????

But that's the way it has been since the beginning of time, if you didn't want a child you didn't perform the act that makes them.....

In fact more people are pro-life now than has been the case for the last 15-20 years..... maybe they are getting tired of all the "sluts" running around.... who knows for sure.....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-09   20:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: war (#37)

A child exists after being born. What is in her womb is various things at various stages of development.

Semantics.....

Everyone has a different opinion on this. Some people consider a fetus to be a baby from the moment of conception. Others consider the fetus to be a baby roughly 10 days after conception at implantation, where the fertilised egg implants in the lining of the womb. Other consider the fetus to be a baby at around 6 weeks, when there is a visible heart beat. Some consider the fetus to be a baby at around 16 weeks when you can start to feel the first movements. Others don't consider the fetus to be a baby until the abortion time limit has passed, so around 20-24 weeks. Some only consider the fetus to be a baby once he or she is born.

All of the above information is correct but leaves out one crucial medical fact. Which is that of the stages of Human Development. So, in terms of human development an embryo is not a fetus, like a fetus is not a baby, like a baby is not a toddler, like a toddler is not a young adult... etc. Basically if you find the definition of Embryo it is: a developing human from conception to 8 weeks. The definition of Fetus is: a developing human from 8 weeks to birth. Then you enter the neonate, infant, toddler, play age...etc.etc. stages. Those are the Stages Of Human Development. So... when Pro-choice advocates say, "it's not a baby!" They actually are correct. And when Anti-abortion advocates say, "you are killing a developing human being" They are actually correct as well. The unborn humans are in their own stages of human development. And, the fetus is not a baby yet... just like a baby is not a toddler yet... but all humans are in their own stages of human development.

Therefore, I will add this: currently, it is legal to end the life of the developing human when they are in pre-viable developmental stages in utero.

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-09   20:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: CZ82 (#40)

Semantics...

Yep...words mean something...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-09   20:51:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: socalv8 (#0)

Dozens of California teachers rallied Monday in downtown San Francisco, launching a week of statewide protests over the threat of deep budget cuts to public education.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-05-09   21:20:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: CZ82 (#39)

But that's the way it has been since the beginning of time, if you didn't want a child you didn't perform the act that makes them.....

Abortion and contraception have been practiced throughout recorded history and most likely before. It seems to be part of human nature to want to preform the act without producing the child.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-09   22:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: jwpegler (#42)

I don't blame the teachers, most are awesome.
Parents stink. I see it everyday.
Cal Dems have, for decades, been throwing money at teachers (unions) to solve the problem. KNOWING IT WOULDN'T WORK.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-10   2:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: lucysmom (#43)

It seems to be part of human nature to want to preform the act without producing the child.

And they should be held "Responsible" for their actions.... just like it used to be....

Abortion is the way to get around being "Responsible", it enables people to continue acting like little children instead of growing up to be adults (I.E. Liberalism)....

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-10   6:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: socalv8 (#44)

I don't blame the teachers, most are awesome. Parents stink. I see it everyday.

Sounds like a self-serving statement to me.


"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899

jwpegler  posted on  2011-05-10   10:24:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: CZ82 (#45)

And they should be held "Responsible" for their actions.... just like it used to be....

When was that?

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-10   10:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: CZ82, lucysmom (#35) (Edited)

So what would happen if people practiced abstinence instead????

It's biologically almost impossible. Even priests can't all do it.

It used to be when life was short people married in their teens and died in their twenties so the ages where you would be the most sexually active was one where people were in wedlock.

But now teen brides are rare and in most cases illegal in America so the old model does not work any more.

I read a study on this. Our grandparents and great grandparents weren't more chaste. It's that they got married young.

I don't get why the Republicans (outside of religious kook reasons) can't do what every scientifically based advance nation does and teach sex education and encourage condom use.

You think Jesus will cause America to be visited by hellfire if we do this?

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-10   12:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: jwpegler (#46)

Sounds like a self-serving statement to me.

So be it.
Parents are responsible for primary education. School is practically babysitting.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-10   13:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: lucysmom (#47)

And they should be held "Responsible" for their actions.... just like it used to be....

When was that?

So what you are saying is that nobody has ever been held responsible for anything????? So why have cops, judges, juries, or prisons then???? So does that mean Liberalism and Atheism has "ALWAYS" been around??? That all people have always acted like idiots?????

So what happened then before abortions???? Did the woman kill herself, did she just throw it in the trash can, did she just do a "coathanger" number on herself or did she just go ahead and have the kid????? My bet rides with she just had the kid, at least the majority of them did..... (and that was the responsible thing to do).......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-10   16:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Godwinson (#48)

I don't get why the Republicans (outside of religious kook reasons) can't do what every scientifically based advance nation does and teach sex education and encourage condom use.

They do.... Now as far as the Libtards go, well who knows.......

Food for thought:

So why has the number of abortions went down recently even though condoms have been available since the 1800s????? Is it because people have "RECENTLY" become more educated about condom use, even though it has been taught in the schools for about 50 years????? Or is it because people have decided they don't want to take the chance of getting an incurable STD????? Or is it because they are just abstaining more???

Recent studies show people are about 25% "LESS" sexually active than just 10 years ago..... So you make the call........

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-10   16:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: CZ82 (#50)

So what happened then before abortions???? Did the woman kill herself, did she just throw it in the trash can, did she just do a "coathanger" number on herself or did she just go ahead and have the kid????? My bet rides with she just had the kid, at least the majority of them did..... (and that was the responsible thing to do).......

Woman have been using contraceptives and having abortions at least since the doings of human beings have been recorded on earth. Of course surgical methods of terminating a pregnancy were pretty risky back then, but there were herbal alternatives and infanticide, waiting until after the birth of the baby to do the deed.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-10   17:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Godwinson (#48)

It used to be when life was short people married in their teens and died in their twenties so the ages where you would be the most sexually active was one where people were in wedlock.

It is estimated that up to 30% of puritan brides were pregnant when they married. Who knows how many did the nasty and didn't get pregnant. Neither contraception nor abortion was acceptable to puritans, though both were known. Sex outside of marriage wasn't acceptable either, but there seems to have been plenty of that.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-10   17:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: CZ82 (#51)

So why has the number of abortions went down recently even though condoms have been available since the 1800s????? Is it because people have "RECENTLY" become more educated about condom use, even though it has been taught in the schools for about 50 years????? Or is it because people have decided they don't want to take the chance of getting an incurable STD????? Or is it because they are just abstaining more???

Teen pregnancy and abortion rates declined steadily for a decade and then began to increase again in 2006. It is thought that shifting the emphathis and funding from contraception to abstinence programs is to blame.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2010-01-26-1Ateenpregnancy26_ST_N.htm

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-10   17:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: lucysmom, CZ82 (#54) (Edited)

Teen pregnancy and abortion rates declined steadily for a decade and then began to increase again in 2006. It is thought that shifting the emphathis and funding from contraception to abstinence programs is to blame.

One of the most disgusting episodes of the right wing religious kooks was when they teamed up with anti-innaculation nuts to prevent HPV vaccination becoming mandatory for girls.

Yes, there were some "libertarians" who were against mandatory (and free) HPV vaccinations for girls but for the most part the religious right wing kooks used the very few "libertarians" (or used their ideology) and the anti vaccination kooks as a front. They did not want girls to undergo vaccination because in their religious kook minds that would mean girls would not be afraid to have sex with boys if they were vaccinated. Also, they wanted girls who have sex outside of marriage to be stricken with HPV as a sign of God's wrath.

I am not making that up. They said so or hinted as much on forums like Freerepublic and the like.

That's how goofy this nation is because of the religious right in America.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-10   17:51:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: lucysmom (#54)

Teen pregnancy and abortion rates declined steadily for a decade and then began to increase again in 2006. It is thought that shifting the emphathis and funding from contraception to abstinence programs is to blame.

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-10   17:53:32 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: lucysmom (#52)

Woman have been using contraceptives and having abortions at least since the doings of human beings have been recorded on earth. Of course surgical methods of terminating a pregnancy were pretty risky back then, but there were herbal alternatives and infanticide, waiting until after the birth of the baby to do the deed.

I know they did things like that, I was being facetious.....

But were the numbers of abortions performed that way back then percentage wise compareable to the numbers of today percentage wise????? (did I say that right)??

My bet is no..... But I don't think the numbers are actually available to prove one or the other......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-10   18:05:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: lucysmom (#53)

Well Canada just passed a law raising the age of sexual consent - raising - not lowering. The low age of consent had existed on the books since colonial times. That means in a way the Canadians actually have become more prudish than their ancestors. Back then there was no in-between age. You were a child then when puberty hit you were considered an adult (Jews are men at 13 years old for example). "Teenager" is a modern invention and modern people are prolonging the coming of age for modern social reasons but biology is not paying attention.

"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-10   18:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: lucysmom (#54)

It is thought that shifting the emphathis and funding from contraception to abstinence programs is to blame.

So what happens if you combine the two instead of teaching one or the other?????

HHHmmmmm...... I bet it would drop even more......

"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning

CZ82  posted on  2011-05-10   18:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: lucysmom, Godwinson (#52)

Sex study: More teens, young adults are virgins By Sharon Jayson, USA TODAY Updated <1m ago

A growing number of teens and young adults say they've never had sexual contact with another person, according to the largest and most in-depth federal report to date on sexual behavior, sexual attraction and sexual identity in the USA.

Some young people make a strong commitment to not having sex for a variety of reasons and some take different paths according to the study.

Some young people make a strong commitment to not having sex for a variety of reasons and some take different paths according to the study.

The study, released Thursday by the National Center for Health Statistics, reports that 27% of young men and 29% of young women ages 15-24 say they've never had a sexual encounter. That's up slightly from 22% for both males and females, in the government's last such survey released in fall 2005, based on 2002 data.

The new findings, from the 2006-2008 National Survey of Family Growth, look at responses from 13,495 teens and adults ages 15-44, including 5,082 ages 15-24.

"The perception is all kids are engaging in oral sex. Obviously, that's not the case," says Jennifer Manlove, a senior research scientist with the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Child Trends, who studies teen sexuality. "They may be more in control of their behaviors than we think."

Age is a factor, says J. Dennis Fortenberry, an adolescent medicine specialist at the Indiana University School of Medicine in Indianapolis, who was not involved in the study.

"As young people progress through their adolescence, increasing proportions of them experience sexual relations with another person," he says. "Some young people make a strong commitment to not having sex for a variety of reasons and some take different paths."

Among ages 15-17 in the new study, 58% of girls and 53% of boys said they have had no sexual contact, compared to 48.6% of girls and 46.1% of boys in 2002. For ages 20-24, 12% of women and 13% of men said they have never had sexual contact, compared with 8% for both sexes in 2002.

Debbie Roffman, a human sexuality educator in Baltimore, says it does appear "that there is a trend toward postponement."

"As to why, there are certainly multiple factors at work," she says. "While greater caution due to fear of physical consequences is likely one, more positive factors are likely to be at play as well.

"For instance, more young people may be choosing to wait for a more quality sexual experience, knowing it is more likely to come with maturity, and/or greater involvement by parents in communicating about sexual values and decision-making and providing greater supervision and monitoring of their children's activities."

While changes from the earlier numbers are small, the new study goes into much greater detail and fills in many gaps in the 2002 data, says lead author Anjani Chandra. Definitions, including specific descriptions of behaviors such as oral sex, were included in the new report to avoid miscommunication, she says.

Questions were posed in both English and Spanish by in-person interviewers between June 2006 and December 2008; participants responded via laptop to protect their privacy. The same method was used in 2002.

Philadelphia-area psychologist Michael Bradley, who specializes in teens, says despite the survey's assurances of confidentiality, young people are not easily convinced and may underreport their sexual activity.

"There is some awareness of confidentiality concerns among a lot of kids," he says. "Some (researchers) are suggesting an underreporting of some behaviors. We don't know that, but we do see kids less inclined to disclose these things than in the past."

The report also found that more than half of 15- to 24-year-olds who have had oral sex reportedly engaged in this behavior prior to ever having vaginal intercourse. Among that age group, 62.6% of women and 64% of men said they had had any oral sex.

The 2002 survey was the first time the government asked about oral sex and when that data came out, there was considerable discussion about the finding that more than half of teens had had oral sex.

The concern isn't just the semantic debate about whether oral sex is really sex — there are public health implications, researchers say. The report notes that a growing percentage of cases of genital herpes in the USA are attributed to oral sex. Other sexually transmitted diseases also can be spread by oral sex. Chandra says the information on what portion of young people have engaged in "potentially STD-risking behaviors before ever placing themselves at risk for pregnancy" will help the federal agency in planning prevention programs.

Although the new survey sought to determine the relative timing of oral sex and sexual intercourse for young people who reported sexual contact, Bill Albert, a spokesman for the nonprofit National Campaign to Prevent Teen and Unplanned Pregnancy, says it's important to focus on the big picture.

"This suggests to me that when kids are sexually active there's a range of things they're doing," he says.

The survey found that older ages at first intercourse were associated with higher percentages having had oral sex first. Of those 15-24 who had first vaginal intercourse at 17 or younger, 41% had oral sex first, compared with 70% of those who had first intercourse at age 20 or older.

"Those who were older at first intercourse were more likely to have engaged in other sexual activity (specifically oral sex) beforehand," Chandra says.

Among other findings:

•Women ages 15-44 are more than twice as likely to have had a same-sex sexual encounter as men of the same ages. In 2006-08, 12.5% of women reported a same- sex experience, vs. 5.2% of men.

•Among men and women 18-44, 94% of women and 96% of men identified themselves as heterosexual while 1.1% of women and 1.7% of men said they were homosexual. The percentage of women who identified themselves as bisexual was more than three times that of men: 3.5% of women vs. 1.1% of men.

Kaaren Williamsen, director of the Gender & Sexuality Center at Carleton College in Northfield, Minn., says there are several reasons women report same- sex experiences at higher rates than men do.

"This data would support that it is more common for women to fluctuate and explore their sexuality. It's also more socially acceptable, so they feel like they could report it," she says. "I do still think we have to consider the impact of internalized homophobia — that even for people who may have had a same-sex experience, admitting it, even anonymously, might not be possible. That could be impacting the difference (in study findings) between men and women."

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CZ82  posted on  2011-05-10   18:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: CZ82 (#57)

My bet is no..... But I don't think the numbers are actually available to prove one or the other......

Without records, the opportunities for research are limited. It is possible to compare date of marriage with the date of a first child's birth, where available, and make some guesses.

Bottom line, France, Germany, and the Netherlands all have a lower teen pregnancy, abortion, and rate of STDs than the United States.

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/publications-a-z/419-adolescent-sexual-health-in-europe-and-the-us

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lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-10   18:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: CZ82 (#59)

So what happens if you combine the two instead of teaching one or the other?????

HHHmmmmm...... I bet it would drop even more......

That is pretty much what is done in European countries with low teen pregnancy rates. European teens tend to have fewer, more stable relationships than American teens.

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lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-10   18:36:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: CZ82 (#59)

So what happens if you combine the two instead of teaching one or the other?????

"Since 1956, sex education has been compulsory in Swedish schools, from the earliest grades through high school. Sex is a natural human act, the educators reason, and most people become active before they're 20. Since there is no changing that, the Swedes figure, young people should at least understand sexuality and reproduction, as well as the risks of unprotected sex. "The idea is that no one gets hurt, and no one is having unwanted children," says Swedish sociologist Bo Lewin.

Teen pregnancy. The curriculum starts out clinically at around age 6, when children learn about anatomy, eggs, and sperm. From age 12 on, the topics lean more toward disease and contraception. The classes have a moral dimension, as well: Sex within loving relationships is stressed, as is gender equality.

The message seems to work: The rates of teen pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease in Sweden are among the world's lowest. Sweden's teenage birthrate is 7 per 1,000 births, compared with 49 in the United States. Among 15-to-19-year-olds, reported cases of gonorrhea in the United States are nearly 600 times as great on a per capita basis."

www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070318/26sex.htm

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lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-10   18:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: lucysmom (#63)

Sex within loving relationships is stressed, as is gender equality

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-11   1:47:44 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: socalv8 (#64)

Yep, for some there's nothing worse than a loving relationship between equals.

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lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-11   10:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: lucysmom (#65)

Yep, for some there's nothing worse than a loving relationship between equals.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-11   11:28:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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