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Title: Was America So Bad On Sept 10, 2001?
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Published: May 8, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-05-08 01:09:22 by A K A Stone
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Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much. They say they killed Bin Laden. Ok he's dead we agree. How about we return back to normal. Get rid of that evil patriot act. Bring the troops home. Repeal Homeland Security. Fire the TSA. Does anyone remember what freedom is anymore?
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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Monday September 10, 2001 According to a Labor Department report, the nation's unemployment rate has Hope/Change/Ordering Killshots
I used to around LF. But over the past few months the management here (I won't mention any names but their initials are: A K A Stone) has consistently deleted posts, changed thread topic titles, suspended good posters, banned good posters, ensured harm on good poster's LF standing, sought coalition with other posters of another website, timed good LF posters out, spied on good poster's IPs, stated good posters are malicious and harmful to LF because of cheap rumours, caused unnecessary grievance and destruction towards the free and responsible use of the Internet and beyond all of the above, deserves a suspension from management duties so that responsible posters, such as myself can fully achieve the broadcasting power that my pen wields.
Bush did have a plan - just different priorities. September 1, 2001: ...boasting last week that he's happy the tax cut reduced the surplus to almost nothing, because it put a "fiscal straitjacket" on big congressional spenders, better known as Democrats. Rather astonishingly, the president admitted to what his enemies had long accused him of: achieving his anti-government agenda not with a forthright battle over individual social programs, but by reducing the government's ability to pay for them, forcing spending cuts in programs that might otherwise have popular support. The trouble for Bush is that the biggest government spenders are Donald Rumsfeld and his friends at the Pentagon, who have already been promised an $18 billion boost by the president. Now that the tax cut has passed, the question is whether the president can afford his big-ticket programs for defense -- most notably his hugely expensive missile defense program -- as well as education. Democrats complain he can't, and that the tax cut also prevented action on a popular-with-voters proposal to develop a prescription-drug benefit for the elderly under Medicare. www.salon.com/news/politics/feature/2001/09/01/budget September 11 changed everything for Bush. PRINCETON, NJ -- President George W. Bush's approval rating was at 51% in a Gallup Poll conducted Sept. 7-10 and completed just before the tragic events of Tuesday. This rating was down some from Bush's recent average, which had been in the mid-50% range. The poll also showed that overall satisfaction with the way things are going in the United States was down significantly and that most of Gallup's measures of the public's perception of the economy had reached new lows for recent years. The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Stewart and Libs were bitching about an unemployment rate UNDER 5%
I think that some of that was due of the push from Bush for his amnesty due to 'low unemployment' and not enough cheap gardeners, and grape and lettuce pickers. 911 put it on hold.
Amnesty push came much later.
It came in the first year of his first term and then was tabled and restarted in the second term. Believe me, the local Chamber of Commerce was reving up the pressure.
No, mininggold is right, you are wrong. After tax cuts, amnesty was next on Bush's agenda. 9/11 screwed it up for him.
Yep, that's the way I remember it too.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Bush's low unemployment numbers were caused by being business friendly. Anyone hear JStewart boo hooing about unemployment anymore?
Which for some reason started in the Bush administration, because he wasn't business friendly either at least among the smaller ones that tend to be the job creators. His deregulation and then bailout of too large to fail corps and banks proved it.
Can't argue that. I'm just struck by the lack of outrage from the left.
Just a note here. Like start noticing that Stewart Never can pronounce Arab/Persian names. And laughs as he mauls them.
You can only be outraged/cry so much. Then it's commit suicide or wait to fight. As you laugh at the reality... Sorta exactly like 4th/5th Gen Warfare. See Raymond Davis ISI, Japan shutting down reactors, the MS River changing course for details....;}
America was great under Clinton but you Republicans could not stand it. So we got 8 years of fuck ups under Bush. Seriously, what the fuck was the hang up about Clinton? That he was once a campus lefty thus he was the Archie Bunker version of Satan that the old people grew up hating in the 60s and 70s? That is about as best I can figure it. You had an Archie Bunker demographic that saw Clinton as sort of the campus lefty that they grew to hate thanks to talk radio from that era onwards and that drove them crazy (Gasp! Clinton's wife kept her maiden name!!! That must make her some sort of Jesus hating commie!!!!, etc). You right wingers ruined this country. I remember after Bush won the talk of the day on forums was that the "adults" were in office and that the GOP would initiate policies that would make America so great. Thanks to the GOP we saw America near collapse and they refuse to accept how bad they ran the country and did their job or how their ideologically derived policies failed to produce results.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Flat land rivers always create new oxbows especially at flood stage, the trouble is... no farmer wants that toxic, polluted, untreated water on their land even if it does supply some needed topsoil renewal.
Move.
The will be the Ultimate Oxbow: the Atchafalaya. The MS from Baton Rouge to NO will become the 30% flow...
That about sums it up.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Another inland waterway, the freight cos will love it.
You right wing loons need to leave America or die off (judging from the GOP age demographic that is sooner rather than later), since you are the trash that ruined it. We correct thinkers will stay and fix your fuck ups.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
I still want to know domestically what the Republicans had a problem with the Clinton era? It boils down tp crazy talk about murdering Vince Foster and that the Clintons had gay associates (though so did the Cheney's it turns out). So what the fuck was the right's problems with the Clinton's? Do they honestly think the Bush era was better?
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
According to Rush, Clinton tried to take over 15% of the economy with Hillarycare (Communist, don't you know). Clinton did a better job achieving stated conservative goals (balanced budget for one) than Republicans, in effect challenging their raison d'etre.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Who would pay the bills?
Judging by the way the States take in Federal revenues the Red States are the welfare sucking states. So having you Republicans die off would save the Blue States from supporting your worthless subsidized lives.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
The left would become this guy in weeks. You're spenders, not earners.
Democrat voting states outperform Republican voting states. Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed The Tax Foundation has released a fascinating report showing which states benefit from federal tax and spending policies, and which states foot the bill. The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are "winners" -- receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States. States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid: 1. New Jersey ($0.62) 2. Connecticut ($0.64) 3. New Hampshire ($0.68) 4. Nevada ($0.73) 5. Illinois ($0.77) 6. Minnesota ($0.77) 7. Colorado ($0.79) 8. Massachusetts ($0.79) 9. California ($0.81) 10. New York ($0.81) Two states -- Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) -- received $1.00 in federal spending for each $1.00 in federal taxes paid.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Yes, California and NY are liberal spendthifts. You're silly.
Yes, I hate that they have to support rubes in Red states. I want that to end. I want the Red states to live as God intended as rural third world hell holes.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Yes, they were. And now they tell us 9% is 'just fine' more or less. If nothing else this past decade has outted the MSM for what they truly are, nothing but a maelstrom of leftward cheerleading...with so few exceptions. Its kinda amazing when you think about it, how intolerant the Left is of the couple of outlets that don't march to the NYT's drumbeat daily.
Mr President, its 72 virgins, not 72 VERSIONS.
NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Link? As in, Mein Kampf page number, please.
Where's those casket photos and MSM Death Counts?
I did link, see above #27. war have you noticed when confronted with the fact that Democrat states pay more to the Fed than they get back and Republican voting states tend to get more money from the Fed then they pay out the right wing goosesteppers refuse to believe it? Why? Because all their lives they have bought the narrative that the Democrats are the parasites feeding off the Republican types when in reality the Republican base lives off the generosity of the Democrat voting public.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
NJ hookers aside, why/how?
They get more $ because they voted Bush is hardly source worthy. Why?
NY is a wealthy state...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Therefore Constitutional. 16th Amendment? Last time you hypnotized into being wrong.
Someone jut told me you hate the Constitution.
You seem to have lost the point. NY, a blue state, sends more tax dollars to DC than it gets back.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Or the crowds screaming 'no blood for oil'....
Mr President, its 72 virgins, not 72 VERSIONS.
NAFTA GATT Abortion Assault weapons ban Rocket technology to China Suing Microsoft Waco Bombed Yugoslavia Bombed Iraq Appointed Ginsberg There are a few.
You got that right..... More people are moving out of the state, than ones moving in......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Challenge...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Ask Rush Limbaugh he'll tell you..... He took his $30+ million per year earnings and headed south...... LOL...... They also lost 2 seats in the House of Representatives.......
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
NY's population grew over 2% 2000-2010.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Every state in the USA had population growth from 2000-2010.... except for 1, Michigan....... Seats in the House are determined by population growth/decline percentages....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
Carter appointed Ginsberg.
The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher
Jimmy Carter is an idiot too. Clintoon appointed her to the Supreme Court.
NY, a blue state, sends more tax dollars to DC than it gets back. My point is that I have no problem with that. Do you have a chart that shows each State's welfare payouts?
I wouldn't either if I was a net taker. I'm guessing the biggest surgar daddy States are Lib States. Top 15? Top 10?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Thanks for correcting your error.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." What error, its called population growth..... just not enough of it..... Population growth should be higher in NY, but it isn't.... That's why they lost 2 seats in the House... So that means more people are leaving than staying..... hence more money leaving the state.... guess that explains the big budget deficits they have.... doesn't it!! Also means more people are getting sick and tired of Libtard irresponsibility and stupid rules.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
You just admitted that the population grew so what you are promoting above is bullshit because it would be impossible to have GROWTH if what you are subtracting is MORE than you are adding. This is the reality...the membership in the House is FIXED @ 435...NY's population GREW but other states' populations grew FASTER. Thus the reapportionment of House seats.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." Another inland waterway, the freight cos will love it. But the water will become to salty for coolant. Waterford Nuke becomes the first Large Scake Decommission in the US. ;}
Which is why Republican voting states are parasites living off the wealth of Democrat voting states but pretending the Democrat voting states are the ones that live off the wealth of Republican voting states
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
All those bad things under Clinton factored in still makes the Clinton era awesome vs what we went through under Bush and his GOP majorities in congress.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Wall Street, Iowa?
Do you walk around with a twirly hat and a boner?
NY is better than I thought...Cal is worse. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/01/25/us/20090126-welfare-table.html
Any news source is going to state or print things that are untrue. The "reputation" is established in the aftermath of that fact seeing the light of day.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." I was not aware of just how bad the flooding was; thanks for posting.
Tell that to Jason Blair, ya poofter.
war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.
Admit it war...you smiled.
JaYson Blair was fired, Rudy. Which illustartes two points both of which are mine...one is stated above and the other is oft stated that you're a fucking idiot. Who's been fired from Faux News?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." I was not aware of just how bad the flooding was; thanks for posting.
Hell, I'll admit to guffawing...as I usually do when Rudy posts something stupid...
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." I was not aware of just how bad the flooding was; thanks for posting.
Or corporate lobbyists
So red voting states are poor and poorly educated (low education scores) because of capitalism?
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
States with lots of federal land tend to be worse since it's being used as debt collateral. You can't even stop and park on the side of numbered gravel roads in the National Forests now. The foreign owners are afraid the citizens might extract a mineral or two or gather some firewood.
So why is the population growing faster in those other states than NY???? More good looking people there???? More people having sex there????? Fewer Liberals there????? Lower unemployment there???? Life is simpler there???? Lower cost of living there????? Lower tax rates there??? Or maybe because people are moving there from states like NY and CA for all the above reasons????? (WOW... What a novel idea, leave the place that treats you like shit and go someplace where you are treated better...
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
What would they do if you parked? Come ask you for an ID or something?
Is that a trick question or are you still having trouble with the math?
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." I was not aware of just how bad the flooding was; thanks for posting.
Is that a trick question or are you still having trouble with the math? If this is your answer to that question then it's pretty lame...... Especially if you think that just because the population of that armpit is growing, it means that the people with all the money aren't leaving.... Since population is growing so much explain the budget deficits then.... I mean they should be rolling in tax money!!! More people equals more money... doesn't it???? Or maybe it's beause the population growth is from "non-productive" people... I.E... people who don't work.... Welfare and foodstamp babies.... And now the "productive" ones are saying "sayonara bitch" and leaving the state, all to the stupid Liberals and their welfare voters..... No I don't have a problem with math, never did..... some people do though and I try to help them as much as possible.....
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
NY is one of the most productive states in the Union. It's also a tale of two states. There's the part that's the Financial Capital of the World...then there's the part that has suffered from the de-industrialization of the US and which has aged because there's nothing there for the young. So the answer that you are looking for, "high taxes", doesn't work. NYC and the metropolitan area continues to grow fairly steadily even in the face of high personal and property taxes. Upstate has been in decline since the 1980's and is a net taker of downstate's tax dollars. In other words, the areas of NY that are LOSING people are also the depressed areas of NY where there is no longer an economic base. Your turn.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." I was not aware of just how bad the flooding was; thanks for posting.
So if NYC is so prosperous and so many people are moving there then explain this... New York City Budget Deficit Next Year May Widen by $2 Billion By Henry Goldman - Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM ET New York City’s projected budget deficit for fiscal 2012 may widen by $2 billion, to $4.5 billion, because cuts in state aid may be greater than forecast, Budget Director Mark Page said. Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s proposal last month to cut the city workforce by 10,000 as part of plan to save $1.6 billion during the next 18 months may not be enough to close the gap, Page told the City Council’s Finance Committee today. “The reality that we’re facing is that the future could be considerably worse,” Page told the council members. “This is something we are solemnly worried about.” The most populous U.S. city has a $65 billion budget projected for fiscal 2012, which begins July 1. Bloomberg last month cited increased pension costs and loss of $850 million in federal school aid in proposing to reduce the city’s 300,000- worker payroll, including more than 6,000 firings. About 4,000 cuts will be accomplished by attrition. Governor-elect Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat who takes office Jan. 1, has until Feb. 1 to propose his first budget. Last month, state Budget Director Robert Megna said the New York state deficit for fiscal 2012, which starts April 1, may reach $9.3 billion. The state gap may increase to between $10 billion to $12 billion in the event revenue and spending projections prove too optimistic, Page said today. Even if the state finds $3 billion to save, $7 billion would still have to be cut from aid to municipalities, Page said. Because New York City historically has received about one- third of local aid, the loss would be about $2 billion, he said. The city’s projected 5 percent revenue increase wouldn’t be enough to make up that gap. “Maybe things will go better; maybe they’ll go worse,” Page said. “It’s not a comfortable outlook for us looking forward over the next 19 months.” The council members summoned Page to the hearing to voice opposition to cuts to programs serving seniors, homeless, abused and neglected youth and night-time firehouse staffing. “These should not be the targeted areas,” said Council Speaker Christine Quinn, a Manhattan Democrat. Although the council lacks authority to amend Bloomberg’s executive orders, it must approve next year’s budget. Bloomberg underscored the administration’s concern at a City Hall news conference later in the day. While agreeing with Quinn’s assessment that budget changes would have to be made, the direction would be less spending, not more, he said. “These cuts don’t go to address more than a third of what we think the problem is,” he said. “We’re going to be going in the other direction. You can always find ways to try to mitigate the pain. The problem is you have to go where the monies are,” schools, public safety and sanitation
"I love the 45 caliber M1911, I respect the 9MM M9 Beretta but I only carry a CZ for my own personal protection". Quote courtesy of Lt Col John Dean Cooper, recognized as the Father of Modern Handgunning
LOL!!! Now that's funny!
Tag lines are gay.
Funny but untrue.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." I was not aware of just how bad the flooding was; thanks for posting.
Do I need to explain to you how a state's tax system works in interface with local funding? ***SIGH*** It's real easy. Everyone in NY pays around the same income tax rate. The problem is, a few areas, e.g. NYC, sends a TON of income tax money to the state but has to claw and fight to get some of it back. So, it's not a matter of how prosperous NYC is; it's a matter of how UNprosperous a good portion of the rest of the state is.
America...My Kind Of Place... "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..." I was not aware of just how bad the flooding was; thanks for posting.
Tell you to move or be fined. I just drive to land I know is private and park off the road.
I can relate to not being to pull over to the side of the road without being harassed by pigs.
Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much.
Daily Show: Headlines - Attention: Deficit Disorder
soared, and President George W. Bush doesn't really have a plan.
#2. To: A K A Stone (#0)
Does anyone remember what freedom is anymore?
#3. To: socalv8 (#1)
According to a Labor Department report, the nation's unemployment rate has soared, and President George W. Bush doesn't really have a plan.
#4. To: lucysmom (#3)
#5. To: socalv8 (#4)
Stewart and Libs were bitching about an unemployment rate UNDER 5%
#6. To: mininggold (#5)
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)
(Edited)
Amnesty push came much later.
#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)
Amnesty push came much later.
#9. To: Skip Intro, A K A Stone (#8)
No, mininggold is right, you are wrong. After tax cuts, amnesty was next on Bush's agenda. 9/11 screwed it up for him.
#10. To: mininggold (#5)
Obama is not business friendly. Unemployment has at least doubled.
#11. To: socalv8 (#10)
Bush's low unemployment numbers were caused by being business friendly. Obama is not business friendly. Unemployment has at least doubled.
#12. To: mininggold (#11)
bailout of too large to fail corps and banks proved it.
#13. To: socalv8 (#4)
#14. To: socalv8 (#12)
Can't argue that. I'm just struck by the lack of outrage from the left.
#15. To: A K A Stone, socalv8, buckeroo, lucysmom, mininggold, Skip Intro, mcgowanjm (#0)
Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much.
#16. To: mcgowanjm (#14)
the MS River changing course for details....;}
#17. To: Godwinson (#15)
You right wingers ruined this country.
#18. To: mininggold (#16)
Flat land rivers always create new oxbows especially at flood stage, the trouble is... no farmer wants that toxic, polluted, untreated water on their land even if it does supply some needed topsoil renewal.
#19. To: Godwinson (#15)
#20. To: mcgowanjm (#18)
The MS from Baton Rouge to NO will become the 30% flow...
#21. To: socalv8 (#17)
#22. To: lucysmom (#19)
#23. To: Godwinson (#22)
So what the fuck was the right's problems with the Clinton's? Do they honestly think the Bush era was better?
#24. To: Godwinson (#21)
You right wing loons need to leave America or die off
Y'all just spend. Can't tax community organizers, you know.
#25. To: socalv8 (#24)
(Edited)
Who would pay the bills?
#26. To: Godwinson (#25)
So having you Republicans die off
#27. To: socalv8 (#26)
(Edited)
#28. To: Godwinson (#27)
#29. To: socalv8 (#28)
(Edited)
Yes, California and NY are liberal spendthifts. You're silly.
#30. To: socalv8 (#4)
Stewart and Libs were bitching about an unemployment rate UNDER 5%
#31. To: socalv8 (#28)
--GW Bush
#32. To: Godwinson (#29)
I want the Red states to live as God intended as rural third world hell holes.
#33. To: Badeye (#30)
And now they tell us 9% is 'just fine' more or less.
#34. To: socalv8, war (#32)
#35. To: war (#31)
NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.
#36. To: Godwinson (#34)
I did link, see above #27
#37. To: socalv8 (#35)
--GW Bush
#38. To: war (#37)
NY is a wealthy state...
#39. To: Godwinson (#34)
#40. To: socalv8 (#38)
--GW Bush
#41. To: socalv8 (#33)
Where's those casket photos and MSM Death Counts?
#42. To: Godwinson (#15)
what the fuck was the hang up about Clinton?
#43. To: war (#31)
NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.
#44. To: CZ82 (#43)
--GW Bush
#45. To: war (#44)
Challenge...
#46. To: CZ82 (#45)
--GW Bush
#47. To: war (#46)
NY's population grew over 2% 2000-2010.
#48. To: A K A Stone (#42)
NAFTA GATT Abortion Assault weapons ban Rocket technology to China Suing Microsoft Waco Bombed Yugoslavia Bombed Iraq Appointed Ginsberg
#49. To: lucysmom (#48)
#50. To: war, Godwinson (#40)
You seem to have lost the point.
I'm guessing the biggest surgar daddy States are Lib States.
#51. To: socalv8 (#50)
My point is that I have no problem with that.
--GW Bush
#52. To: CZ82 (#47)
--GW Bush
#53. To: war (#52)
Thanks for correcting your error.
#54. To: CZ82 (#53)
So that means more people are leaving than staying...
--GW Bush
#55. To: mininggold (#20)
The MS from Baton Rouge to NO will become the 30% flow...
#56. To: socalv8, war (#50)
My point is that I have no problem with that.
#57. To: A K A Stone (#42)
#58. To: Godwinson (#56)
Silicone Valley, MI?
NY and Cal are wealthy because of wildly successful Capitalism.
They also hand out welfare like crack, enrich unions and therefore are susceptible to budget failure.
#59. To: Godwinson (#57)
the Clinton era awesome
#60. To: war (#51)
NY Times is super factual, right?
#61. To: socalv8 (#60)
--GW Bush
#62. To: war (#61)
#63. To: war (#62)
Tell that to Jason Blair, ya poofter.
#64. To: Rudgear (#62)
Tell that to Jason [sic] Blair...
--GW Bush
#65. To: socalv8 (#63)
Admit it war...you smiled.
--GW Bush
#66. To: socalv8 (#24)
Who would pay the bills? Y'all just spend. Can't tax community organizers, you know.
#67. To: socalv8 (#58)
NY and Cal are wealthy because of wildly successful Capitalism. They also hand out welfare like crack, enrich unions and therefore are susceptible to budget failure.
#68. To: socalv8 (#60)
NY is better than I thought...Cal is worse. NY Times is super factual, right?
#69. To: war (#54)
This is the reality...the membership in the House is FIXED @ 435...NY's population GREW but other states' populations grew FASTER. Thus the reapportionment of House seats.
#70. To: mininggold (#68)
States with lots of federal land tend to be worse since it's being used as debt collateral. You can't even stop and park on the side of numbered gravel roads in the National Forests now. The foreign owners are afraid the citizens might extract a mineral or two or gather some firewood.
#71. To: CZ82 (#69)
So why is the population growing faster in those other states than NY????
--GW Bush
#72. To: war (#71)
So why is the population growing faster in those other states than NY????
#73. To: CZ82 (#72)
(Edited)
--GW Bush
#74. To: war (#73)
So the answer that you are looking for, "high taxes", doesn't work. NYC and the metropolitan area continues to grow fairly steadily even in the face of high personal and property taxes.
#75. To: CZ82, war (#72)
And now the "productive" ones are saying "sayonara bitch" and leaving the state,
#76. To: We The People (#75)
--GW Bush
#77. To: CZ82 (#74)
--GW Bush
#78. To: A K A Stone (#70)
What would they do if you parked? Come ask you for an ID or something?
#79. To: mininggold (#78)
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