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Title: Was America So Bad On Sept 10, 2001?
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Published: May 8, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-05-08 01:09:22 by A K A Stone
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Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much. They say they killed Bin Laden. Ok he's dead we agree. How about we return back to normal. Get rid of that evil patriot act. Bring the troops home. Repeal Homeland Security. Fire the TSA. Does anyone remember what freedom is anymore?
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#15. To: A K A Stone, socalv8, buckeroo, lucysmom, mininggold, Skip Intro, mcgowanjm (#0)
America was great under Clinton but you Republicans could not stand it. So we got 8 years of fuck ups under Bush. Seriously, what the fuck was the hang up about Clinton? That he was once a campus lefty thus he was the Archie Bunker version of Satan that the old people grew up hating in the 60s and 70s? That is about as best I can figure it. You had an Archie Bunker demographic that saw Clinton as sort of the campus lefty that they grew to hate thanks to talk radio from that era onwards and that drove them crazy (Gasp! Clinton's wife kept her maiden name!!! That must make her some sort of Jesus hating commie!!!!, etc). You right wingers ruined this country. I remember after Bush won the talk of the day on forums was that the "adults" were in office and that the GOP would initiate policies that would make America so great. Thanks to the GOP we saw America near collapse and they refuse to accept how bad they ran the country and did their job or how their ideologically derived policies failed to produce results.
Move.
You right wing loons need to leave America or die off (judging from the GOP age demographic that is sooner rather than later), since you are the trash that ruined it. We correct thinkers will stay and fix your fuck ups.
Who would pay the bills?
Judging by the way the States take in Federal revenues the Red States are the welfare sucking states. So having you Republicans die off would save the Blue States from supporting your worthless subsidized lives.
The left would become this guy in weeks. You're spenders, not earners.
Democrat voting states outperform Republican voting states. Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed The Tax Foundation has released a fascinating report showing which states benefit from federal tax and spending policies, and which states foot the bill. The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are "winners" -- receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States. States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid: 1. New Jersey ($0.62) 2. Connecticut ($0.64) 3. New Hampshire ($0.68) 4. Nevada ($0.73) 5. Illinois ($0.77) 6. Minnesota ($0.77) 7. Colorado ($0.79) 8. Massachusetts ($0.79) 9. California ($0.81) 10. New York ($0.81) Two states -- Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) -- received $1.00 in federal spending for each $1.00 in federal taxes paid.
Yes, California and NY are liberal spendthifts. You're silly.
NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.
You got that right..... More people are moving out of the state, than ones moving in......
Challenge...
Ask Rush Limbaugh he'll tell you..... He took his $30+ million per year earnings and headed south...... LOL...... They also lost 2 seats in the House of Representatives.......
NY's population grew over 2% 2000-2010.
Every state in the USA had population growth from 2000-2010.... except for 1, Michigan....... Seats in the House are determined by population growth/decline percentages....
Thanks for correcting your error.
What error, its called population growth..... just not enough of it..... Population growth should be higher in NY, but it isn't.... That's why they lost 2 seats in the House... So that means more people are leaving than staying..... hence more money leaving the state.... guess that explains the big budget deficits they have.... doesn't it!! Also means more people are getting sick and tired of Libtard irresponsibility and stupid rules.....
You just admitted that the population grew so what you are promoting above is bullshit because it would be impossible to have GROWTH if what you are subtracting is MORE than you are adding. This is the reality...the membership in the House is FIXED @ 435...NY's population GREW but other states' populations grew FASTER. Thus the reapportionment of House seats.
So why is the population growing faster in those other states than NY???? More good looking people there???? More people having sex there????? Fewer Liberals there????? Lower unemployment there???? Life is simpler there???? Lower cost of living there????? Lower tax rates there??? Or maybe because people are moving there from states like NY and CA for all the above reasons????? (WOW... What a novel idea, leave the place that treats you like shit and go someplace where you are treated better...
Is that a trick question or are you still having trouble with the math?
Is that a trick question or are you still having trouble with the math? If this is your answer to that question then it's pretty lame...... Especially if you think that just because the population of that armpit is growing, it means that the people with all the money aren't leaving.... Since population is growing so much explain the budget deficits then.... I mean they should be rolling in tax money!!! More people equals more money... doesn't it???? Or maybe it's beause the population growth is from "non-productive" people... I.E... people who don't work.... Welfare and foodstamp babies.... And now the "productive" ones are saying "sayonara bitch" and leaving the state, all to the stupid Liberals and their welfare voters..... No I don't have a problem with math, never did..... some people do though and I try to help them as much as possible.....
NY is one of the most productive states in the Union. It's also a tale of two states. There's the part that's the Financial Capital of the World...then there's the part that has suffered from the de-industrialization of the US and which has aged because there's nothing there for the young. So the answer that you are looking for, "high taxes", doesn't work. NYC and the metropolitan area continues to grow fairly steadily even in the face of high personal and property taxes. Upstate has been in decline since the 1980's and is a net taker of downstate's tax dollars. In other words, the areas of NY that are LOSING people are also the depressed areas of NY where there is no longer an economic base. Your turn.
#74. To: war (#73)
So if NYC is so prosperous and so many people are moving there then explain this... New York City Budget Deficit Next Year May Widen by $2 Billion By Henry Goldman - Dec 6, 2010 3:16 PM ET New York City’s projected budget deficit for fiscal 2012 may widen by $2 billion, to $4.5 billion, because cuts in state aid may be greater than forecast, Budget Director Mark Page said. Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s proposal last month to cut the city workforce by 10,000 as part of plan to save $1.6 billion during the next 18 months may not be enough to close the gap, Page told the City Council’s Finance Committee today. “The reality that we’re facing is that the future could be considerably worse,” Page told the council members. “This is something we are solemnly worried about.” The most populous U.S. city has a $65 billion budget projected for fiscal 2012, which begins July 1. Bloomberg last month cited increased pension costs and loss of $850 million in federal school aid in proposing to reduce the city’s 300,000- worker payroll, including more than 6,000 firings. About 4,000 cuts will be accomplished by attrition. Governor-elect Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat who takes office Jan. 1, has until Feb. 1 to propose his first budget. Last month, state Budget Director Robert Megna said the New York state deficit for fiscal 2012, which starts April 1, may reach $9.3 billion. The state gap may increase to between $10 billion to $12 billion in the event revenue and spending projections prove too optimistic, Page said today. Even if the state finds $3 billion to save, $7 billion would still have to be cut from aid to municipalities, Page said. Because New York City historically has received about one- third of local aid, the loss would be about $2 billion, he said. The city’s projected 5 percent revenue increase wouldn’t be enough to make up that gap. “Maybe things will go better; maybe they’ll go worse,” Page said. “It’s not a comfortable outlook for us looking forward over the next 19 months.” The council members summoned Page to the hearing to voice opposition to cuts to programs serving seniors, homeless, abused and neglected youth and night-time firehouse staffing. “These should not be the targeted areas,” said Council Speaker Christine Quinn, a Manhattan Democrat. Although the council lacks authority to amend Bloomberg’s executive orders, it must approve next year’s budget. Bloomberg underscored the administration’s concern at a City Hall news conference later in the day. While agreeing with Quinn’s assessment that budget changes would have to be made, the direction would be less spending, not more, he said. “These cuts don’t go to address more than a third of what we think the problem is,” he said. “We’re going to be going in the other direction. You can always find ways to try to mitigate the pain. The problem is you have to go where the monies are,” schools, public safety and sanitation
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#17. To: Godwinson (#15)
You right wingers ruined this country.
#21. To: socalv8 (#17)
#24. To: Godwinson (#21)
You right wing loons need to leave America or die off
Y'all just spend. Can't tax community organizers, you know.
#25. To: socalv8 (#24)
(Edited)
Who would pay the bills?
#26. To: Godwinson (#25)
So having you Republicans die off
#27. To: socalv8 (#26)
(Edited)
#28. To: Godwinson (#27)
#31. To: socalv8 (#28)
#43. To: war (#31)
NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.
#44. To: CZ82 (#43)
#45. To: war (#44)
Challenge...
#46. To: CZ82 (#45)
#47. To: war (#46)
NY's population grew over 2% 2000-2010.
#52. To: CZ82 (#47)
#53. To: war (#52)
Thanks for correcting your error.
#54. To: CZ82 (#53)
So that means more people are leaving than staying...
#69. To: war (#54)
This is the reality...the membership in the House is FIXED @ 435...NY's population GREW but other states' populations grew FASTER. Thus the reapportionment of House seats.
#71. To: CZ82 (#69)
So why is the population growing faster in those other states than NY????
#72. To: war (#71)
So why is the population growing faster in those other states than NY????
#73. To: CZ82 (#72)
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Replies to Comment # 73. So the answer that you are looking for, "high taxes", doesn't work. NYC and the metropolitan area continues to grow fairly steadily even in the face of high personal and property taxes.
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