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Title: Was America So Bad On Sept 10, 2001?
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Published: May 8, 2011
Author: A K A Stone
Post Date: 2011-05-08 01:09:22 by A K A Stone
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Views: 64768
Comments: 79

Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much.

They say they killed Bin Laden. Ok he's dead we agree.

How about we return back to normal.

Get rid of that evil patriot act.

Bring the troops home.

Repeal Homeland Security.

Fire the TSA.

Does anyone remember what freedom is anymore?

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#15. To: A K A Stone, socalv8, buckeroo, lucysmom, mininggold, Skip Intro, mcgowanjm (#0)

Was the country so bad on Sept 10, 2001 that we had to change so much.

America was great under Clinton but you Republicans could not stand it. So we got 8 years of fuck ups under Bush. Seriously, what the fuck was the hang up about Clinton? That he was once a campus lefty thus he was the Archie Bunker version of Satan that the old people grew up hating in the 60s and 70s? That is about as best I can figure it. You had an Archie Bunker demographic that saw Clinton as sort of the campus lefty that they grew to hate thanks to talk radio from that era onwards and that drove them crazy (Gasp! Clinton's wife kept her maiden name!!! That must make her some sort of Jesus hating commie!!!!, etc).

You right wingers ruined this country.

I remember after Bush won the talk of the day on forums was that the "adults" were in office and that the GOP would initiate policies that would make America so great. Thanks to the GOP we saw America near collapse and they refuse to accept how bad they ran the country and did their job or how their ideologically derived policies failed to produce results.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-09   11:27:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Godwinson (#15)

You right wingers ruined this country.

Move.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-09   11:51:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: socalv8 (#17)

You right wing loons need to leave America or die off (judging from the GOP age demographic that is sooner rather than later), since you are the trash that ruined it. We correct thinkers will stay and fix your fuck ups.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-09   12:33:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Godwinson (#21)

You right wing loons need to leave America or die off

Who would pay the bills?
Y'all just spend. Can't tax community organizers, you know.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-09   14:51:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: socalv8 (#24) (Edited)

Who would pay the bills?

Judging by the way the States take in Federal revenues the Red States are the welfare sucking states. So having you Republicans die off would save the Blue States from supporting your worthless subsidized lives.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-09   15:41:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Godwinson (#25)

So having you Republicans die off

The left would become this guy in weeks. You're spenders, not earners.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-09   15:52:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: socalv8 (#26) (Edited)

Democrat voting states outperform Republican voting states.

Red States Feed at Federal Trough, Blue States Supply the Feed

The Tax Foundation has released a fascinating report showing which states benefit from federal tax and spending policies, and which states foot the bill.

The report shows that of the 32 states (and the District of Columbia) that are "winners" -- receiving more in federal spending than they pay in federal taxes -- 76% are Red States that voted for George Bush in 2000. Indeed, 17 of the 20 (85%) states receiving the most federal spending per dollar of federal taxes paid are Red States.

States Receiving Least in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:

1. New Jersey ($0.62)

2. Connecticut ($0.64)

3. New Hampshire ($0.68)

4. Nevada ($0.73)

5. Illinois ($0.77)

6. Minnesota ($0.77)

7. Colorado ($0.79)

8. Massachusetts ($0.79)

9. California ($0.81)

10. New York ($0.81)

Two states -- Florida and Oregon (coincidentally, the two closest states in the 2000 Presidential election) -- received $1.00 in federal spending for each $1.00 in federal taxes paid.

Godwinson  posted on  2011-05-09   16:00:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Godwinson (#27)

Yes, California and NY are liberal spendthifts. You're silly.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-09   16:05:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: socalv8 (#28)

NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.

war  posted on  2011-05-09   16:16:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: war (#31)

NY sends more money out of state than it gets back.

NJ hookers aside, why/how?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-09   16:46:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: socalv8 (#35)

NY is a wealthy state...

war  posted on  2011-05-09   16:52:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: war (#37)

NY is a wealthy state...

Therefore Constitutional. 16th Amendment? Last time you hypnotized into being wrong.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-09   16:58:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: socalv8 (#38)

You seem to have lost the point.

NY, a blue state, sends more tax dollars to DC than it gets back.

war  posted on  2011-05-09   17:11:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: war, Godwinson (#40)

You seem to have lost the point.

NY, a blue state, sends more tax dollars to DC than it gets back.

My point is that I have no problem with that.

Do you have a chart that shows each State's welfare payouts?
I'm guessing the biggest surgar daddy States are Lib States.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-10   2:21:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: socalv8 (#50)

My point is that I have no problem with that.

I wouldn't either if I was a net taker.

I'm guessing the biggest surgar daddy States are Lib States.

Top 15? Top 10?

war  posted on  2011-05-10   6:42:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: war (#51)

NY is better than I thought...Cal is worse.
NY Times is super factual, right?

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/01/25/us/20090126-welfare-table.html

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-10   13:39:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: socalv8 (#60)

NY is better than I thought...Cal is worse. NY Times is super factual, right?

States with lots of federal land tend to be worse since it's being used as debt collateral. You can't even stop and park on the side of numbered gravel roads in the National Forests now. The foreign owners are afraid the citizens might extract a mineral or two or gather some firewood.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-10   13:59:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: mininggold (#68)

States with lots of federal land tend to be worse since it's being used as debt collateral. You can't even stop and park on the side of numbered gravel roads in the National Forests now. The foreign owners are afraid the citizens might extract a mineral or two or gather some firewood.

What would they do if you parked? Come ask you for an ID or something?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-10   18:04:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#78. To: A K A Stone (#70)

What would they do if you parked? Come ask you for an ID or something?

Tell you to move or be fined. I just drive to land I know is private and park off the road.

mininggold  posted on  2011-05-10 22:24:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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