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Title: Obama got Osama? Oh, Mama!
Source: American Thinker
URL Source: http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/05/obama_got_osama_oh_mama.html
Published: May 6, 2011
Author: William Tate
Post Date: 2011-05-06 03:08:47 by socalv8
Keywords: Obama, Osama, Camelgate
Views: 6114
Comments: 28

It could be argued that Osama bin Laden is roasting in hell right now largely despite, not because of, Barack Obama. Had Obama gotten his way, the world would likely have watched a far different spectacle play out in lower Manhattan on Thursday: the trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, rather than an Obama photo-op, 'spiking the football' at the death of Osama bin Laden.

Perhaps more than any other person, Obama was responsible for efforts to hinder policies which led to bin Laden's assassination. Or, in words that won't offend our liberal friends, bin Laden's sudden cessation of life-related activities.

The Obamamedia is already busy scrubbing history of Bush administration efforts which started the search that eventually found bin Laden. They are also ignoring efforts by Obama which would have short-circuited those efforts.

Obama wasn't unique among Democrats in his criticism of Bush anti-terrorism policies -- including enhanced interrogation techniques that even his hand-picked CIA Director, Leon Panetta, admitted were partially responsible for finding bin Laden. Nor was Obama's the lone voice wailing over detention of enemy combatants at Guantanamo Bay. But Obama was singular in the lengths to which he went to try to force an end to those policies.

A core effort of Democrats opposed to George W. Bush's War On Terror was to extend habeas corpus to enemy combatants at Gitmo, a move that would have freed at least some detainees and impeded or halted the flow of information to U.S. interrogators, including information which reports say was vital to finding bin Laden.

Obama, though, took the rare step of making his U.S. Senate office a satellite office for activists trying to ram through a bill extending habeas corpus to Gitmo detainees. According to a group of those activists who endorsed Obama's presidential campaign:

"Senator Obama helped lead the fight in the Senate against the administration's efforts in the Fall of 2006 to strip the courts of jurisdiction, and when we were walking the halls of the Capitol trying to win over enough Senators to beat back the administration's bill, Senator Obama made his key staffers and even his offices available to help us. Senator Obama worked with us to count the votes, and he personally lobbied colleagues who worried about the political ramifications."

Just months after Obama's failed effort, in 2007, ABC News reports, "U.S. officials who were interrogating Guantanamo detainees finally learned the real name of a former Khalid Sheikh Muhammad protégé who had become an important confidante of Abu Faraj al Libi."

The protégé turned out to be the courier who eventually led Navy SEALS to go knocking on bin Laden's door.

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#1. To: socalv8 (#0) (Edited)

You folks have taken whining about success to a new level. It's a petulant level of which you all seem to be wantonly ignorant. I recall back in the days leading up to the Iraq invasion, the FR types - which I suspect you may have been - used to post this:

It's time for you folks to heed your own advice. Bin Laden is now BEEN Laden. The mission was a success from every angle and you folks look pretty goddam dumb trying to promote otherwise.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-06   8:00:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#1)

You folks have taken whining...

Just postin' articles, boss.
And that graphic is beneath my standards.

No real comment?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-06   16:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#1)

Is that a pic of obomba washing republican jock straps !

Something losers do !

wash the urinals too !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-05-06   16:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

They were probably cell - bed buddies back in the pakistannie - chicago days !

If you ... don't use exclamation points --- you should't be typeing ! Commas - semicolons are for girlie boys !

BorisY  posted on  2011-05-06   16:55:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#1)

The mission was a success

And I would prefer you just say thank you (to Bush) and STFU.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-06   16:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: no gnu taxes (#5)

I could give a shit about what you "prefer". The success of the mission had nothing to do with Boy Blunder. He had his chance and, like everything else in his life, blew it.

But you can feel free to thank Obama. Not that he's asked for it...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-06   19:50:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: socalv8 (#2)

The "article", cute little untrue rant that it is, got the "comment" it deserved.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-06   19:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#6)

Geez, please provide an Obama intelligence policy that lead to finding Osama.

The only good foreign policy procedures this guy has is adhering to Bush's established ones.

It must eat at you to know this is true.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-06   19:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: no gnu taxes (#8)

Geez, please provide an Obama intelligence policy that lead to finding Osama.

ON Day 1, Obama told Panetta to make getting OBL the #1 priority.

Your hero's quote about OBL is down in my tagline...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-06   19:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: no gnu taxes (#8)

It must eat at you to know this is true.

I'm not the one spamming articles here, Padlock. Articles penned in a desperate attempt to achieve validation.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-06   20:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#9)

ON Day 1, Obama told Panetta to make getting OBL the #1 priority.

Your hero's quote about OBL is down in my tagline...

That's rhetoric and not what I asked.

And I'm not even sure it's true.

Tell me the DEMONSTRATED intelligence measures Obama PERSONALLY approved.

WE know with Bush.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-06   20:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: no gnu taxes (#11)

That's rhetoric and not what I asked.

Chuckles...say Good Night, Padlock...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-06   20:17:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#7)

The "article", cute little untrue rant that it is, got the "comment" it deserved.

Is this more cute, little or untrue?

Obama, though, took the rare step of making his U.S. Senate office a satellite office for activists trying to ram through a bill extending habeas corpus to Gitmo detainees.

Want a second source?

article 1
"war" 0

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-07   1:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: socalv8 (#13)

Obama, though, took the rare step of making his U.S. Senate office a satellite office for activists trying to ram through a bill extending habeas corpus to Gitmo detainees.

What the fuck does that even mean?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-07   8:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: war (#14)

It means Obama used his Senate office to push for 1st Amendment rights for Gitmo prisoners.
Funny, now he acts like Rambo.

Panetta did this, Obama took credit, hypocritically.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-07   19:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: socalv8 (#15) (Edited)

It means Obama used his Senate office to push for 1st Amendment rights...

Come back when you can discuss the USCON cogently.

Thanks.

Helpful hint: 1A = speech, religion, press, assembly, petition...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-07   19:07:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: war (#16)

Same rights for you as Gitmo dudes.
Go Obama Go

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-07   19:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: socalv8 (#17)

Did I stutter?

Come back when...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-07   19:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: war (#18)

From "cute, little" to "come back".
What are your thoughts on Senate resources being used defend Gitmo Guys?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-07   19:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: socalv8 (#19)

You seem to have this inane belief that our "rights" are in the USCON. They aren't. What IS in the USCON is an enumeration of the US government's powers. In principle, the government has no more power over GITMO prisoners than it does you or me. IN practice, the government will ALWAYS exercise power regardless of whether or not it HAS that power. Why they get away with it is because people such as you turn a blind eye to it.

As for your question...why would anyone defending rights over unchecked power cause you concern?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-07   19:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: war (#20)

You seem to have this inane belief that our "rights" are in the USCON.

No, saying 1st Amend. was an error.

As for your question...why would anyone defending rights over unchecked power cause you concern?

Like most, the only unchecked power I condone is my own.

From another site...

Obama's order was, "Do nothing while I sleep on it." They did something, which bettered the country and diminished the presidency.

I agree. They're story changing is absurd. And you're flying an Obama/Rambo graphic.

Habeas corpus (Latin meaning "you may have the body[1]") HaHa!

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-08   1:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: socalv8 (#21)

You're taking the media's word that the story is changing. The story I see is that bin Laden is dead. The rest is just process stories and who gives a shit?

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-08   9:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: war (#22)

You're taking the media's word that the story is changing

B.S., war.

70 Versions, indeed.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-08   12:04:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: socalv8 (#23)

Not BS. And what's worse is you're taking FAUX News' word that the story has changed.

Meanwhile, bin Laden is STILL dead.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-08   13:37:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#24)

And what's worse is you're taking FAUX News' word that the story has changed.

False.

Obama, "...firefight."
WH, "No firefight."

You want more?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-09   0:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: socalv8 (#25)

Who cares and no thanks...

Bin Laden is till dead...

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-09   8:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: war (#26)

Who cares and no thanks...

You went from ragging on the article to running from it...scoreboard. ;)

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-09   11:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: socalv8 (#27)

There's nothing there to run from.

America...My Kind Of Place...

"I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]..."
--GW Bush

war  posted on  2011-05-09   12:17:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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