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Title: Bush Apologists Just One Question
Source: LF
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Published: May 5, 2011
Author: war
Post Date: 2011-05-05 11:50:36 by war
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Views: 12024
Comments: 34

IF Bush43 gathered all of this information that led to the killing of OBL...why didn't HE use it to kill OBL?

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#3. To: war (#0)

Bush set up the apparatus to gather the information which every one of the moonabts objected to. It wasn't until 2010 that enough information was collected on the whereabouts of Osama to take action.

If Bush had not had the courage he had in the face of enormous criticism, Osama would not have been apparently found.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-05   11:58:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: no gnu taxes (#3)

So, acting on information gathered 5 years before Obama assumed office, Obama was able to get bin Laden in 2.

Isn't 2 less than 5?

war  posted on  2011-05-05   12:00:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#5)

Obama was able to get bin Laden in 2.

Obama didn't do anything.

He was a benefactor of the of the system Bush set up and it wasn't until 2010 that the Bush's eavsdropping program (which Obama and all the moonbats called him a criminal for instituting) gave the big break needed.

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It took years of work for intelligence agencies to identify the courier's real name, which officials are not disclosing. When they did identify him, he was nowhere to be found. The CIA's sources didn't know where he was hiding. Bin Laden was famously insistent that no phones or computers be used near him, so the eavesdroppers at the National Security Agency kept coming up cold.

Then in the middle of last year, the courier had a telephone conversation with someone who was being monitored by U.S. intelligence, according to an American official, who like others interviewed for this story spoke only on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive operation. The courier was located somewhere away from bin Laden's hideout when he had the discussion, but it was enough to help intelligence officials locate and watch him.

In August 2010, the courier unknowingly led authorities to a compound in the northeast Pakistani town of Abbottabad, where al-Libi had once lived. The walls surrounding the property were as high as 18 feet and topped with barbed wire. Intelligence officials had known about the house for years, but they always suspected that bin Laden would be surrounded by heavily armed security guards. Nobody patrolled the compound in Abbottabad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead-one-phone-call_n_856674.html

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-05   12:07:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: no gnu taxes (#8) (Edited)

Then in the middle of last year...

"Last year" was 2010...

Who was POTUS and who had ordered their CIA Cheif to GET BIN LADEN?

war  posted on  2011-05-05   12:33:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: war (#11)

He was a benefactor of the of the system Bush set up and it wasn't until 2010 that the Bush's eavsdropping program

Did I not acknowledge that?

It was Bush's program that Obama and all his fellow moonbats trashed until of course Obama got into office and continued it.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-05   12:39:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: no gnu taxes (#13)

It was Bush's program that Obama and all his fellow moonbats trashed until of course Obama got into office and continued it.

Yep, and those same moonbats, the dwarf being one of them, haven't bitched about it being the same under Owe-bama I suspect.

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-05   13:30:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Badeye, no gnu taxes, go65 (#19)

The program to which you are referring was started by Bill Clinton and was done by NSA. The calls in question here were undertaken by the CIA outisde of the US in the course of intelligence gathering on targets of interest.

But keep trying to muddy the waters. It underscores your desperation for validation.

war  posted on  2011-05-05   13:43:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: war (#20)

The program to which you are referring was started by Bill Clinton and was done by NSA.

Clinton proposed changes to FISA, which you Moonbats had no problem with until Bush implemented them under the PATRIOT Act. Then you started howling about him being a dictator and a criminal.

Bush had the clout and the courage to catch Bin Laden.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-05   14:00:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: no gnu taxes (#25)

Blah blah blah...

Deflect away, Paddy...

The fact is that the CIA wiretapping these people for this operation was not the illegal NSA wiretapping, eavesdropping, data mining op of the Boy Blunder Reign of Error. Not only that, but YOU are trying to give Boy Blunder credit for something that Clinton initiated.

war  posted on  2011-05-05   14:03:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: war (#26)

The fact is that the CIA wiretapping these people for this operation was not the illegal NSA wiretapping

There is no evidence at all that Bush eavesdropped on anybody that was not rightly believed to be a terrorist. None and you can't provide any.

All he did was sidestep the cumbersome FISA Court process that even Clinton said was too obstructive in acting on possible threats. Of course, you had no problem with Clinton's position or with Obama now that he continues Bush's exact policies. Yet you are on record numerous time calling Bush a criminal.

Typical moonbat tap dance.

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-05   14:11:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: no gnu taxes (#28)

Arguing that Boy Blunder's NSA program was responsible here does not pass even minimal scrutiny.

war  posted on  2011-05-05   14:17:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: war (#29)

Bush's program is what got Osama.

In summary, Bush wanted by bypass the obtrusive FISA courts to catch terrorists and did so. Clinton took the same position. Yet, you call Bush a criminal for doing so.

Also, it was legal to simply gather info on the IDs of calls, but not necessarily the content. Hoewver, if one party of a call was a known terrorist, then pursuing the content is totally justifiable.

Bush's positions without a doubt led to Osama's capture. The Kenyan knew they were good policies, too, as he has continued to use them (after he and all other moonbats said Bush was a criminal for using them).

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-05   14:26:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: no gnu taxes (#30)

In summary, Bush wanted by bypass the obtrusive FISA courts to catch terrorists and did so.

What is obtrusive about seeking court permission after the fact?

Does the Bill of Rights mean anything?

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-05   14:35:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: lucysmom (#31)

Padlock is trying to claim that because New Orleans plays football, Green Bay won the Super Bowl...

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