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Title: Pundits predict no more accurately than a coin toss (Krugman is most accurate)
Source: Hamilton College
URL Source: http://www.hamilton.edu/news/story/ ... s-coin-toss-according-to-study
Published: May 4, 2011
Author: Hamilton College
Post Date: 2011-05-04 09:40:32 by go65
Keywords: None
Views: 1772
Comments: 14

Op-ed columnists and TV’s talking heads build followings by making bold, confident predictions about politics and the economy. But rarely are their predictions analyzed for accuracy.

Now, five Hamilton College seniors led by public policy professor P. Gary Wyckoff have analyzed the predictions of 26 prognosticators between September 2007 and December 2008. Their findings? Anyone can make as accurate a prediction as most of them if just by flipping a coin.

Their research paper, “Are Talking Heads Blowing Hot Air? An Analysis of the Accuracy of Forecasts in the Political Media” was presented via webcast on Monday, May 2, at www.hamilton.edu/pundit. The paper is also available at that address. Questions during the presentation were posed via Twitter using #hcpundit. The students responsible for this study include Holly Donaldson, Russell Doubleday, Scott Hefferman, Evan Klondar and Kate Tummarello.

The Hamilton students sampled the predictions of 26 individuals who wrote columns in major print media and who appeared on the three major Sunday news shows – Face the Nation, Meet the Press, and This Week – and evaluated the accuracy of 472 predictions made during the 16-month period. They used a scale of 1 to 5 (1 being “will not happen, 5 being “will absolutely happen”) to rate the accuracy of each, and then divided them into three categories: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

The students found that only nine of the prognosticators they studied could predict more accurately than a coin flip. Two were significantly less accurate, and the remaining 14 were not statistically any better or worse than a coin flip.

The top prognosticators – led by New York Times columnist Paul Krugman – scored above five points and were labeled “Good,” while those scoring between zero and five were “Bad.” Anyone scoring less than zero (which was possible because prognosticators lost points for inaccurate predictions) were put into “The Ugly” category. Syndicated columnist Cal Thomas came up short and scored the lowest of the 26.

Even when the students eliminated political predictions and looked only at predictions for the economy and social issues, they found that liberals still do better than conservatives at prediction. After Krugman, the most accurate pundits were Maureen Dowd of The New York Times, former Pennsylvania Governor Ed Rendell, U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY), and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi – all Democrats and/or liberals. Also landing in the “Good” category, however, were conservative columnists Kathleen Parker and David Brooks, along with Bush Administration Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson. Left-leaning columnist Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post rounded out the “good” list.

Those scoring lowest – “The Ugly” – with negative tallies were conservative columnist Cal Thomas; U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC); U.S. Senator Carl Levin (D-MI); U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman, a McCain supporter and Democrat-turned-Independent from Connecticut; and Sam Donaldson of ABC.

Landing between the two extremes – “The Bad” – were Howard Wolfson, communications director for Hillary Clinton’s 2008 campaign; former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a hopeful in the 2008 Republican primary; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a Republican; Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, the Democratic nominee for president in 2004; liberal columnist Bob Herbert of The New York Times; Andrea Mitchell of NBC; New York Times columnist Tom Friedman; the late David Broder, former columnist for The Washington Post; Chicago Tribune columnist Clarence Page; New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof; Hillary Clinton; and conservative George Will.

The group also found a link between conditional predictions and accuracy, that is, a prediction that was conditional (“If A, then B”) was less likely to be accurate. Finally, those prognosticators with a law degree were more likely to be wrong.

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#1. To: go65 (#0)

Those scoring lowest – “The Ugly” –

Add Badeye to that list.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-05-04   9:59:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

But watch who gets fired out of the cannon immediately.

And who advances.

Ex- Petraeus has failed his way to the top.

While making statements like this:

Petraeus: Afghans are burning their children to make us look bad ... 5 posts - 4 authors - Last post: Feb 27 So let's see here, a group made up mostly of women and children in ... I guess it's crazy to think that Afghan people would burn their ...

www.bmx-forum.com/.../234...ldren-to-make-us-look-bad - Cached

mcgowanjm  posted on  2011-05-04   10:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#0)

Even when the students eliminated political predictions and looked only at predictions for the economy and social issues, they found that liberals still do better than conservatives at prediction.

One would expect the "reality based community" to do better.

The Republican budget goes after children and the poor. Courage would be going after defense and the rich. Bill Maher

lucysmom  posted on  2011-05-04   10:23:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Fred Mertz (#1)

Ironic you want to 'go there' ethel.

When, exactly have YOU ever added ANYTHING to any website forum beyond petty bullshit like this?

Answer...never.

Now get going, your gambling addiction requires a fix.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   10:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#0)

Quick dumbass, name a 'economic prediction' the neurotic Paul Krugman has EVER MADE that 'came true'.

I'll wait.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   10:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Badeye (#4)

Your prognostications and predictions put you in the "Ugly" category, not to mention your face.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-05-04   10:31:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#0)

About the source of this study:

In 2002, the then-President Eugene Tobin resigned after admitting that he had failed to give proper attribution to quoted material in speeches. Efforts to bring Ward Churchill to speak on campus were controversial. Also controversial was the 2004 decision to hire former political radical and ex-convict Sue Rosenberg (liberal radical, if you haven't heard of her) - who spent 16 years in Federal prison for possession of explosives and weapons and was implicated in the 1981 Brinks robbery. There was also a complaint by Professor Robert Paquette over an independent student group bringing an actress and former porn-star as a speaker. Professor Paquette was also involved in a later controversy, being one of the leaders in the failed attempt to create the Alexander Hamilton Center on campus.[4]

There was controversy over the fact that in September 2010 as part of orientation first-year men had to attend a presentation of "She Fears You", a program at which, some believed, they would be pressed to acknowledge their personal complicity in a "rape culture" on Hamilton's campus and to change their "rape-supportive" beliefs and attitudes. First-year men were informed via e-mail that attendance was required and that they needed to bring their ID cards, although many did not attend as rumor spread that students did not have to check in.

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So radical left wing institution agrees with radical left wingers. And their study doesn't publish what the predictions were or how they were judged to be right.

tsk tsk

More inane babble from leftards.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-04   11:09:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: no gnu taxes, war, mcgowanjm (#7) (Edited)

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So radical left wing institution agrees with radical left wingers. And their study doesn't publish what the predictions were or how they were judged to be right.

I guess you must have predicted the real estate bubble popping and the subsequent Bush recession, since you claim to be such a unbiased student of right/left politics. But there's actually only two who currently post on this board who adamantly were predicting it before it happened...war and Mcgowanjm.

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Rek  posted on  2011-05-04   11:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Fred Mertz (#6)

Your prognostications and predictions put you in the "Ugly" category, not to mention your face.

Like I've noted, you add nothing to any forum you belong to, ethel.

Now, go get your gambling fix, lightweight bitch queen.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   11:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#5)

Quick dumbass, name a 'economic prediction' the neurotic Paul Krugman has EVER MADE that 'came true'.

You are attacking the predictions of others? Seriously?

How did your "GOP will take the Senate in 2010" and "unemployment will go over 10% after the election" prognostications work out?

Seriously badeye, if Cal Thomas needed some cheering up he could simply review "your" predictions over the last few years.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   13:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#10)

Quick dumbass, name a 'economic prediction' the neurotic Paul Krugman has EVER MADE that 'came true'.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   13:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Fred Mertz, badeye (#6) (Edited)

Your prognostications and predictions put you in the "Ugly" category, not to mention your face.

Badeye doesn't seem to realize he could have clicked through the link to read the actual study results, before he posted something stupid like "when has Krugman ever been right." (he was right in 15 of the 17 predictions documented in the report)

I'm starting to wonder if someone hasn't hijacked Badeye's account, he sounds too much like Yukon these days, and suddenly lost any and all grasp of the English language.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   13:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#12)

Quick dumbass, name a 'economic prediction' the neurotic Paul Krugman has EVER MADE that 'came true'.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   13:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: go65 (#12)

I'm starting to wonder if someone hasn't hijacked Badeye's account, he sounds too much like Yukon these days, and suddenly lost any and all grasp of the English language.

I think you're onto something.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-05-04   23:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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