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Title: CIA chief: Waterboarding aided bin Laden raid
Source: NBC, msnbc.com and news services
URL Source: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/42880 ... d_news-south_and_central_asia/
Published: May 4, 2011
Author: n/a
Post Date: 2011-05-04 01:31:09 by socalv8
Keywords: Panetta, cia, waterboard
Views: 11614
Comments: 18

updated 5/3/2011 8:51:07 PM ET 2011-05-04T00:51:07

WASHINGTON — Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.

"Enhanced interrogation techniques" were used to extract information that led to the mission's success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged.

Panetta, who in a 2009 CIA confirmation hearing declared "waterboarding is torture and it's wrong," said Tuesday that debate about its use will continue.

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#1. To: socalv8 (#0)

Rodriguez’s assertion drew criticism from the White House. “There is no way that information obtained by [enhanced interrogation techniques] was the decisive intelligence that led us directly to bin Laden,” says National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor. “It took years of collection and analysis from many different sources to develop the case that enabled us to identify this compound, and reach a judgment that bin Laden was likely to be living there.”

Rodriguez agrees that other events played a role in developing the intelligence on bin Laden’s whereabouts. And he says that despite widespread focus on KSM, al Libbi’s information was the most important. “Both KSM and al Libbi were held at CIA black sites and subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques,” Rodriguez says. “Abu Faraj was not waterboarded, but his information on the courier was key.”

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2011/05/04/did-torture-get-the-us-osama-bin-laden/#ixzz1LODskMxK

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   9:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: socalv8 (#0)

But was it harsh interrogation that led to the critical information? The identity and whereabouts of the courier came to light only years later, after the enhanced interrogation had stopped.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   9:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: go65 (#1)

Yo, dumbass.

You on the uber Left scream 'waterboarding is a war crime' but think its peachy keen to infiltrate a nation allegedly an ally, shoot a man in the head twice, shoot and wound his wife, kill his son, then dump his body into the ocean...and then do a 'happy dance', and cheer?

I just love liberal hypocrisy on full display.

Waterboarding works. Owe-bama benefitted from it here. Its also why he's 100% supporting RENDITION, dumbass. And isn't closing Gitmo, and has escalated the war in Afghanistan AND PAKISTAN, via drones, a surge, and now 'boots on the ground' in a nation we aren't at war with.

Any rational person using liberal bullshit from 2001 - January 2009 should be screaming 'Impeach Owe-bama and try him for war crimes'. Just using your own bullshit standards from the Bush era.

Voters are noticing, dumbass.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   10:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#2)

after the enhanced interrogation had stopped.

"Enhanced" interrogation doesn't stop until successful. Somebody cracked under the waterfall.

Obama has water on his hands.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   12:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Badeye (#3)

bullshit standards from the Bush era.

Bush dumping the body at sea would have gone over swimmingly.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   12:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#1)

“Abu Faraj was not waterboarded,

He was watercredenzaed.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   12:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: socalv8 (#5)

Bush dumping the body at sea would have gone over swimmingly.

I actually think that was a good move on the administrations behalf to be honest.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   13:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#7)

I actually think that was a good move on the administrations behalf to be honest.

For trial avoidance?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   13:17:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: socalv8 (#5)

Bush dumping the body at sea would have gone over swimmingly.

nice pun.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   13:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: socalv8 (#4)

"Enhanced" interrogation doesn't stop until successful. Somebody cracked under the waterfall.

those being tortured will say whatever they think the interrogator wants to hear so the torture will stop.

I suggest you take some time to read:

http://smallwarsjournal.com/blog/2007/10/waterboarding-is-torture-perio/

The author used to run the US Navy Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape School in San Diego, CA.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   13:37:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: socalv8 (#8)

I actually think that was a good move on the administrations behalf to be honest. For trial avoidance?

No, for 'shrine avoidance'. I'm talking about dumping that piece of shit homicidal maniac in the ocean here.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   13:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#3)

but think its peach

when you mean "it is" then it is "it's"

Again, before calling others "dumb" you might want to enroll in an English 101 course.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   13:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#10)

those being tortured will say whatever they think the interrogator wants to hear so the torture will stop.

True as far as it goes, dumbass.

But knowing they will be subjected to it AGAIN, if its found they lied?

Nope. The simple truth is waterboarding works. And its non lethal. No lasting harmful effects at all.

The irony is using the liberal template from 2001 - January of 2009, Owe-bama committed a war crime, and should be impeached, for killing bin Laden in the manner he authorized.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   13:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: go65 (#12)

Dumbass.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   13:45:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#10)

I suggest you take some time to read:

waterboarding-is-torture-period

I don't care if it's torture. I am pro torture.
Use it. They do. Our soldiers deserve it from us.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   13:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: go65 (#9)

nice pun

Thanks

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   13:47:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: socalv8 (#15)

I don't care if it's torture. I am pro torture. Use it. They do. Our soldiers deserve it from us

the problem is torture doesn't provide reliable intelligence. You would take credit for planning 9/11 if I strapped you to a board and poured water down your throat. It's why those who have extensive experience in interrogations, such as Malcolm Nance, don't advocate its use.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   14:06:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: go65 (#17)

the problem is torture doesn't provide reliable intelligence.

Ever?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   14:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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