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Title: White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden
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Socyberty
URL Source: http://socyberty.com/issues/white-h ... order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
Published: May 4, 2011
Author: Socyberty
Post Date: 2011-05-04 01:28:19 by Hondo68
Keywords: a temporary Coup, Vice President up to speed, Obama very confused and uncert
Views: 25768
Comments: 37
"What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound." Note:This update comes some 24 hours after our longtime Washington D.C. Insider first outlined shocking details of an Obama administration having been “overruled” by senior military and intelligence officials leading up to the successful attack against terrorist Osama Bin Laden. What follows is further clarification of Insider’s insights surrounding that event. _______ Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate? A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so. President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president. I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within President Obama. Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position. This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts. One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in the Middle East. Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed? A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one. Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives. Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy. Again Obama hesitated - this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act. It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through. What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation” by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “…significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett. Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him –and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to proceed with a mission if the opportunity presented itself. Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat. Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval. Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order. This insulation ended at some point with an abort order that I believe originated from Valerie Jarrett’s office, and was then followed up by President Obama. This abort order was later explained as a delay due to weather conditions, but the actual conditions at that time would have been acceptable for the mission. A storm system had been in the area earlier, but was no longer an issue. Check the data yourself to confirm. Jarrett, having been caught off guard, was now scrambling to determine who had initiated the plan. She was furious, repeating the acronym “CoC” and saying it was not being followed. This is where Bill Daley intervened directly. The particulars of that intervention are not clear to me beyond knowing he did meet with Jarrett in his office and following that meeting, Valerie Jarrett was not seen in the West Wing for some time, and apparently no longer offered up any resistance to the Osama Bin Laden mission. What did follow from there was one or more brief meetings between Bill Daley, Hillary Clinton, a representative from Robert Gates’ office, a representative from Leon Panetta’s office, and a representative from Jim Clapper’s office. I have to assume that these meetings were in essence, detailing the move to proceed with the operation against the Osama Bin Laden compound. I have been told by more than one source that Leon Panetta was directing the operation with both his own CIA operatives, as well as direct contacts with military – both entities were reporting to Panetta only at this point, and not the President of the United States. There was not going to be another delay as had happened 24 hour earlier. The operation was at this time effectively unknown to President Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett and it remained that way until AFTER it had already been initiated. President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission. Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.” The president was then placed in the situation room where several of the players in this event had already been watching the operation unfold. Another interesting tidbit regarding this is that the Vice President was already “up to speed” on the operation. A source indicated they believe Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware of that day’s events before the president was. The now famous photo released shows the particulars of that of that room and its occupants. What that photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates. The president’s role was minimal, including their acknowledging of his presence in the room. At the conclusion of the mission, after it had been repeatedly confirmed a success, President Obama was once again briefed behind closed doors. The only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley. John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me. When leaving this briefing, the president came out of it “…much more confident. Much more certain of himself.” He was also carrying papers in his hand that quite possibly was the address to the nation given later that evening on the Bin Laden mission. The president did not have those papers with him prior to that briefing. The president then returned to the war room, where by this time, Leon Panetta had personally arrived and was receiving congratulations from all who were present. In my initial communication to you of these events I described what unfolded as a temporary Coup initiated by high ranking intelligence and military officials. I stand by that term. These figures worked around the uncertainty of President Obama and the repeated resistance of Valerie Jarrett. If they had not been willing to do so, I am certain Osama Bin Laden would still be alive today. There will be no punishment to those who acted outside the authority of the president’s office. The president cannot afford to admit such a fact. What will be most interesting from here is to now see what becomes of Valerie Jarrett. One source indicated she is threatening resignation. I find that unlikely given my strong belief she needs the protection afforded her by the Oval Office and its immense powers to delay and eventually terminate investigations back in Chicago, but we shall see. Stay safe.
Poster Comment: Obama is still in his golf clothes, and the general is in the presidents chair.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
Headline from 5 days ago... President Obama Moves Leon Panetta to Pentagon, David Petraeus to CIA Sounds like Leon moved Leon. Backseat Obama?
Chitown mobster Bill Daley seems to have a knack for keeping the Kenyan his worshipers under control. He made Jarret an offer, she couldn't refuse.
I recall a re-run of MASH I saw where this uber right winger named Colonel Flagg... Republicans trying to downplay Obama's role in the killing of OBL (using fabricated accounts) for political reasons. This attempt is so obvious.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Republicans? The picture alone speaks volumes. Panetta's Haig Moment?
And thank you. It was a COUP. Note Petraeus.....
Haig was not successful. This one looks like it is. See JFK/Bay of Pigs for details.... or Gorbachev Perestroika Moskva Coup. Losing the Afghans did in Gorbachev. Obama trying to skate...
Whats interesting is how Owe-bama is frittering away any positive gain from giving the 'go order' that resulted in bin Laden's death. For about 18 hours he looked 'decisive' for the first time in his Presidency. Now? Back to business as usual, voting 'present'. Politically, it sure works for me.
I hear you knockin...go back where you been....
You mean Obama was shot and Haig claimed he was in charge? Kooks see what they want to see. President's are not generals. They are Commander's In Chief. The General in the picture is leading the operation on behalf of the president as it should be. The only president that ever lead men into an operation was George Washington to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
For about 18 hours he looked 'decisive' for the first time in his Presidency. Now? Back to business as usual, voting 'present'. Politically, it sure works for me. Couldn't have worked better if I had written his script....&;-)
They were used to having a president like Bush who was the "decider" no matter how little he knew about the subject matter. I can see Reagan, as most presidents have done throughout our history, deferring to those in his cabinet with the expertise.
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Racist. j/k
No. Simply recalling Haig's "I'm in charge." ballsiness.
Bush deferred as well (some say to Cheney, too much) but what you see here is these guys have these fantasy narratives in their heads and they base their world view on this made up narrative rather than reality. So to them presidents need to act like Harrison Force on Airforce One, and be a gun fighter like Clint Eastwood. That's why they had Bush on his fake ranch fake clearing fake brush - it was appealing to this image of this romantic lead these closeted gay Republicans have.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
I see nothing out of the ordinary in this picture - you seem to be constructive a narrative around this picture based on your ideological bent,
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Our President is sitting in a position of weakness (literal/figurative) and is wearing golf duds.
Like I said you Republicans - like fascists - are into faux displays of gravitas like clothing (remember you Republican kooks made a big deal about Bush requiring ties in the Oval office). That is why the party leadership runs these empty suits for office like Bush (faux cowboy) and Palin (faux frontier woman) for you simpleton's to lap up.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Obama looks VERY weak and stereotypically happens to be wearing golf duds...
You see what you want to see because you are a Republican partisan lackey. I see Obama with an intense grimace as he is watching an operation Bush never authorized for 8 years.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
There generally has been a reason why presidents historically have cabinets and heads of departments as part of their administrations.
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False. I see Obama with an intense grimace Me, too. :)
Indeed, Hillary Clinton looks ready to barf her way to hysterics.
Contrast the position Obama is sitting in vs the position and body language Bush was in when he was reading "My Pet Goat" on 9/11.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Maybe you should only see the officially posed photos like almost every administration prior to Clinton's released. You guys can't seem to handle the candid shots unless they are Hollywood perfect.
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Oh, we will. WH heads will roll over that pic.
Not comparable. Though, they look quite similar sans the Obama leaning forward fetusly.
Yea, you can't compare hero Obama to loser Bush.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
And if it had been Reagan sitting there, he would have been snoring too because I see another president who also has confidence in his cabinet.
"http://first-draft-blog.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c5ced53ef0148c7a28c4b970c-320wi"
I was less than happy with Bush, especially his second term. That noted, only a liberal nutcase can assert a two term POTUS was a 'loser'. If thats the case...what the fuck was Gore and Kerry, kook? lmao
bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'
You are right. It was America that lost.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'
Racist. j/k Clarify please.
G.I. Bro.
Hippies? How old are you, 70?
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
No. Hippies, Greens, Unionists...you know.
Unionists = hard hat wearing types = are hippies? Teddy Roosevelt who founded the national parks system and Nixon who founded the EPA were hippies? Only retards are left in the GOP these days. But to have some senile Republican old guy like you call out hippie like its 1969 is just too priceless. Kind of sums up the GOP ideology - old and smelling like death is fast approaching.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
No sense of humor, noted. And a bit of a weirdo.
Humor has to connect on some reality - calling random people hippies is funny how other than the person saying it is funny because he comes off as out of touch and a hold over from the 1960s era. What next? Will you use 1920s slang next? See that digg on you was funny.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#2. To: socalv8 (#1)
Bill Daley intervened directly. The particulars of that intervention are not clear to me beyond knowing he did meet with Jarrett in his office and following that meeting, Valerie Jarrett was not seen in the West Wing for some time, and apparently no longer offered up any resistance to the Osama Bin Laden mission.
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
Godwinson posted on 2011-02-23 11:47:32 ET
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=18011&Disp=46#C46
#3. To: socalv8, hondo68 (#1)
#4. To: Godwinson (#3)
Republicans trying to downplay Obama's role in the killing of OBL
#5. To: hondo68 (#0)
#6. To: socalv8 (#4)
Panetta's Haig Moment?
#7. To: hondo68 (#0)
#8. To: socalv8 (#4)
. Panetta's Haig Moment?
#9. To: Badeye (#7)
Whats interesting is how Owe-bama is frittering away any positive gain from giving the 'go order' that resulted in bin Laden's death.
#10. To: Godwinson (#8)
Kooks see what they want to see. President's are not generals. They are Commander's In Chief. The General in the picture is leading the operation on behalf of the president as it should be. The only president that ever lead men into an operation was George Washington to put down the Whiskey Rebellion.
#11. To: mcgowanjm (#6)
Obama trying to skate...
#12. To: Godwinson (#8)
You mean Obama was shot and Haig claimed he was in charge?
#13. To: Rek (#10)
#14. To: socalv8 (#12)
No. Simply recalling Haig's "I'm in charge." ballsiness.
#15. To: Godwinson (#14)
I see nothing out of the ordinary in this picture
Not a deal breaker, but ZERO gravitas.
#16. To: socalv8 (#15)
Our President is sitting in a position of weakness (literal/figurative) and is wearing golf duds. Not a deal breaker, but ZERO gravitas.
#17. To: Godwinson (#16)
like fascists - are into faux displays of gravitas like clothing
I'm not surprised you're yelling about the fashion.
#18. To: socalv8 (#17)
#19. To: socalv8 (#17)
Obama looks VERY weak and stereotypically happens to be wearing golf duds... I'm not surprised you're yelling about the fashion.
#20. To: Godwinson (#18)
because you are a Republican partisan lackey
#21. To: Rek (#19)
There generally has been a reason why presidents historically have cabinets and heads of departments
#22. To: Rek, socalv8 (#19)
#23. To: socalv8 (#21)
Indeed, Hillary Clinton looks ready to barf her way to hysterics.
#24. To: Rek (#23)
Maybe you should only see the officially posed photos like almost every administration prior to Clinton's released.
#25. To: Godwinson (#22)
#26. To: socalv8 (#25)
#27. To: Godwinson (#22)
Contrast the position Obama is sitting in vs the position and body language Bush was in when he was reading "My Pet Goat" on 9/11.
#28. To: Godwinson (#26)
#29. To: Badeye (#28)
That noted, only a liberal nutcase can assert a two term POTUS was a 'loser'.
#30. To: Godwinson (#29)
That noted, only a liberal nutcase can assert a two term POTUS was a 'loser'.
#31. To: socalv8 (#11)
Obama trying to skate...
#32. To: Godwinson (#26)
hero Obama
Where'd all the hippies go? The ones thriving under da Bushes are now war mongering hawks.
#33. To: socalv8 (#32)
Where'd all the hippies go?
#34. To: Godwinson (#33)
Hippies? How old are you, 70?
Regardless, hypocrites all.
#35. To: socalv8 (#34)
(Edited)
No. Hippies, Greens, Unionists...you know.
#36. To: Godwinson (#35)
old and smelling like death is fast approaching.
#37. To: socalv8 (#36)
(Edited)
No sense of humor
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