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Title: Rumsfeld Exclusive: There Was No Waterboarding of Courier Source Read more on Newsmax.com: Rumsfeld Exclusive: There Was No Waterboarding of Courier Source Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!
Source: NewsMax
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Published: May 3, 2011
Author: Jim Meyers and Ashley Martella
Post Date: 2011-05-03 22:52:17 by war
Keywords: None
Views: 5789
Comments: 27

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld tells Newsmax the information that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden was obtained through “normal interrogation approaches” and says the notion that terrorist suspects were waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay is a “myth.”

Rumsfeld also claims that elements of Pakistani intelligence could have been complicit in hiding the terrorist mastermind, asserts that his killing exonerates George W. Bush’s approach to fighting terrorism, and warns that terrorists will likely try to avenge bin Laden's death with new attacks against America or its allies.

Rumsfeld was Secretary of Defense under Gerald Ford from 1975 to 1977, then under George W. Bush from 2001 to 2006, and as a member of the Bush administration was one of the chief architects of America’s response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

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#1. To: war (#0)

I saw Cheney on the news tonight...he looks like a dead man walking.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-05-03   22:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: war (#0)

... asserts that his killing exonerates George W. Bush’s approach to fighting terrorism

This means the US Patriot Act(s) can be canceled, nullified and normalcy shall be returned to the USA.

The problem is NOT about one man's head or an opinion. The problem is that Americans have lost their rights to personal liberty, freedom, rights and dignity through all this US government CRAP. And frankly, I am sick of it.

buckeroo  posted on  2011-05-03   23:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Fred Mertz, war (#1)

cheney is in the last stages of heart failure, the only thing keeping him alive now is a pump.

WRT to the thread topic, the Bush administration had already stopped waterboarding prisoners "before" we got information about the courier's identity. But again, facts don't matter to Republicans anxious to spin a narrative that torture worked and Obama had nothing to do with the killing of Bin Laden (who isn't really dead, even though Bush deserves the credit for his death).

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-03   23:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: go65 (#3)

(who isn't really dead, even though Bush deserves the credit for his death).

You sound like Rush Limbaugh...

Fred Mertz  posted on  2011-05-03   23:14:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: war (#0)

There Was No Waterboarding of Courier Source

Leon Panetta is calling bullshit.

CIA chief: Waterboarding aided bin Laden raid

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   1:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: socalv8 (#5) (Edited)

LEON PANETTA:

10:47:53:00 It-- you know, Brian, in the intelligence business you work from a lot of sources of information and that was true here. We had a multiple source-- a multiple series of-- sources that provided information with regards to the situation. Clearly some of it came from detainees and the interrogation of detainees but we also had information from other sources as well.

10:48:18:00 From Sigent intelligence, from imagery, from other sources that we had-- assets on the ground. And it was a combination of all of that that ultimately we were able to put together that led us to that compound. So-- it's-- it's a little difficult to say it was due just to one source of information that we got.

BRIAN WILLIAMS:

10:48:36:00 Turned around the other way, are you denying that water boarding was, in part, among the tactics used to extract the intelligence that led to this successful mission?

LEON PANETTA:

10:48:48:00 No, I think some of the detainees clearly were, you know, they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees. But I'm also saying that, you know, the debate about whether-- whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always gonna be an open question. ````````````````````````````````` And given how vague the initial intelligence that led to the eventual administration of justice, it's a HUGE stretch to claim we found bin Laden due to any of these "techniques" let alone "waterboarding".

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-05-04   9:21:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#3)

WRT to the thread topic, the Bush administration had already stopped waterboarding prisoners "before" we got information about the courier's identity.

Yo, dumbass,

Waterboarding told us of the courier's existence.

Laughable spin, that Panetta has already debunked twice in the past 36 hours.

I hear you knockin...go back where you been....

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   10:36:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: war (#0)

You ranted against "normal interrogation" or anybody even being at Gitmo at all.

asserts that his killing exonerates George W. Bush’s approach to fighting terrorism

'nuff said

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-04   10:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: war (#6)

We had a multiple source-- a multiple series of-- sources

That's a doozy.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-04   12:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Badeye (#7)

Waterboarding told us of the courier's existence.

Nope, we didn't learn of Bin Laden's courier until 2007.

And quit calling folks "dumb" until you get a grasp of the English language - see tagline:

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   13:41:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: go65 (#10)

Waterboarding told us of the courier's existence.

Dumbass.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   13:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Badeye (#11)

Dumbass.

see tagline.

Seriously, Yukon, is that you?

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   14:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: go65 (#12)

Waterboarding told us of the courier's existence. Dumbass.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   14:25:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Badeye (#13)

Rumsfeld Exclusive: There Was No Waterboarding of Courier Source

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   14:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: go65 (#14)

Waterboarding told us of the courier's existence. Dumbass.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   15:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: go65 (#14)

Panetta:

Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.

“Enhanced interrogation techniques” were used to extract information that led to the mission’s success, Panetta said during an interview with anchor Brian Williams. Those techniques included waterboarding, he acknowledged.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-04   15:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: no gnu taxes (#16)

Ironic the liberals are back using McCain as they did between 2001 and August of 08, isn't it?

No surprise McCain is playing to them, thats what he does.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-04   15:34:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Badeye (#17)

McCain was always "the hold your nose" candidate.

Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??

no gnu taxes  posted on  2011-05-04   15:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Badeye (#15)

Rumsfeld Exclusive: There Was No Waterboarding of Courier Source

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-04   16:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: go65 (#19)

Rumsfeld Exclusive: There Was No Waterboarding of Courier Source

Yo, DUMBASS.

Rumsfeld NEVER SAID THIS. You and every other uber liberal look absolutely ridiculous once again.

This is a great example of what happens when you rely on DNC talking points, and media matters.

You fucking idiot. So very satisfying to note it.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-05   10:45:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Badeye, go65 (#20)

This is a great example of what happens when you rely on DNC talking points, and media matters.

Remember this GO...NEWSMAX is a left wing source of news...

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-05-05   10:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Badeye (#20) (Edited)

Yo, DUMBASS.

Rumsfeld NEVER SAID THIS. You and every other uber liberal look absolutely ridiculous once again

This is a great example of what happens when you rely on DNC talking points, and media matters.

Newsmax is a left wing media source? I'm not sure what happened to you Badeye, but you seem to have left your brain at the door when you returned to LF.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/DonaldRumsfeld-gitmo-waterboarding- osamabinladen/2011/05/02/id/394820

Asked if harsh interrogation techniques at Guantanamo Bay played a role in obtaining intelligence on bin Laden’s whereabouts, Rumsfeld declares: “First of all, no one was waterboarded at Guantanamo Bay. That’s a myth that’s been perpetrated around the country by critics.

“The United States Department of Defense did not do waterboarding for interrogation purposes to anyone. It is true that some information that came from normal interrogation approaches at Guantanamo did lead to information that was beneficial in this instance. But it was not harsh treatment and it was not waterboarding.”

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-05   10:53:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: go65 (#22)

Rumsfeld NEVER SAID THIS. You and every other uber liberal look absolutely ridiculous once again

Yo, DUMBASS.

You might want to just admit you were wrong.

Doubt you have the balls, however.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-05   11:09:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Badeye (#23)

You might want to just admit NEWSMAX was wrong.

OK.

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-05   11:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: go65 (#24)

Yo, DUMBASS.

You might want to just admit you were wrong.

Doubt you have the balls, however.

Like I said, you don't have the balls.

Game, set and match, dumbass.

Now, go blow the dwarf.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-05   12:00:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Badeye (#25)

Newsmax was wrong.

There, happy?

"Thats because your basically and idiot."
Badeye posted on 2011-04-29 10:30:22 ET

go65  posted on  2011-05-05   12:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: go65 (#26)

Like I said, you don't have the balls.

Game, set and match, dumbass.

bin Laden's last Facebook Post: 'Brb! Someone's at the door!'

Badeye  posted on  2011-05-05   12:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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