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Title: bin Laden - Obama Credit and Blunder
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Dissenting Opions
URL Source: http://jwpegler.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... -obama-credit-and-blunder.html
Published: May 2, 2011
Author: Eric Blankeburg
Post Date: 2011-05-02 20:01:33 by jwpegler
Keywords: None
Views: 17203
Comments: 38
In a dramatic late night announcement, President Obama went on national television last night and told the American people that a Navy Seal team killed Osama bin Laden. The U.S. government announced that they sent bin Laden to his watery grave, probably somewhere in the Arabian Sea. Bravo to Obama and CIA Chief Leon Panetta for brining bin Laden to justice. However, the decisions surrounding the disposition of bin Laden's cold, dead body were not without controversy. I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I wonder why the government didn't keep bin Laden's body around for independent verification. Obama is from Chicago -- a town notorious for winning close elections within the margin of error coming from dead people voting from the grave. Those dead folks put Kennedy in office in 1960. Yes, bin Laden is probably dead, but the Obama administration should have produced independent verification of bin Laden's death. They didn't. The administration's mistakes around verification of bin Laden's death will result in bin Laden's demise joining Pearl Harbor and the Kennedy assassination in the chronicles of American conspiratorial political history. It didn't have to be that way. But the administration's actions made it so.
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#1. To: jwpegler (#0)
Can't find even one sentence to disagree with.
What would satisfy you? How about pictures taken by the SEALS who killed him? Would that do?
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush
They have pictures. They are debating whether or not to release them. They need to release them with whatever dental, DNA, etc evidence they have. I believe they killed they killed bin Laden and I give Leon Panatta and Obama all of the credit in the world. However, they dumped bin Laden's body overboard. It was a huge mistake. Long after we are dead there will be conspiracy theories about this. Obama could have made this very clear. But he dumped his body in the ocean with no verification. That's the problem.
It's called DNA. It seems Republican kooks and the OJ jurors don't get what that means......
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Yesterday you said they would produce a body. Now you are begging us to believe some picture you haven't even seen yet. What grade are you in?
Well, I could go either way on that. I can see why they'd want to get rid of the body pronto, just like the Russians did with Hitler's body. You don't want to give the remaining crazies a relic to rally around. On the other hand, you're right, there will be a huge conspiracy built up over this, just like with Hitler.
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush
I had the body. You didn't pay to see it and it started to smell so I dumped it in the ocean.
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush
Independent verification of DNA. That would have put to rest any reasonable and rational challenges. But they dumped his body overboard instead. Why did they do this??? No answer. It demonstrates how tone deaf they are.
When your cornered you start the stupid talk.
When you are cornered, not only do you talk "stupid" but you delete posts and rename threads or delete the same or lock the same. In any event, you need to grow up for a chit-chat channel manager.
I would have to question which one of us is the stupid one if you really think I could produce Osama's body.
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush
Yep, and democrat/leftist kooks will believe whatever digital image is released and posted on the internet concerning the supposed DNA. No questions asked. And anyone who doesn't is stupid, right? LOL!
Like I said. When you are cornered you start the stupid talk.
I agree, but if you do dump the body there is a much larger set of crazies who will charge conspiracy. I am for the truth. Lay the body out and let people pick away at it. bin Laden had NO dignity, so lay his body out. Who cares? Bravo to the Obama administration for killing the bastard. But they made a huge mistake dumping his body overboard.
I am for the truth. Lay the body out and let people pick away at it. Don't you seem to be arguing both sides? I think all the conspiracy crazies as you call them want is conclusive proof from a reputable source. The current White House is not such a source.
Parrots repeat themselves too. That doesn't make them smart.
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush
No. I always argue for the truth. If both sides have the truth, bravo to them. If neither side has the truth, shame of them.
Talking about Parrots is no substitute for the unanswered stuff above.
OK, you got me Stone. I can't produce Osama's body. Does that surprise you?
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush
Does that surprise you? More stupid talk. You said Obama would produce the body. He didn't. He supposedly dropped it in the ocean. That is if you believe a proven liar.
Did I? Do you have a link to that? I really don't remember if I said that or not.
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush
You said something to that affect.
Sorry, but your credibility isn't real good. I need a link.
"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush
No image was released. So I don't know why you assume there is some evidence that was released that needs debunking. If it is released it is released via official agencies which are answerable to the people/freedom of information act.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
If you had not spent so much time in Republican crazy land you would have read that we have Bin Laden blood samples (donated it seems) to compare DNA against. DNA: How they determine Osama bin Laden really is Osama bin Laden I love this comment mocking the American kook right: pianobody at 5:26 PM May 02, 2011 Uh oh...this sounds an awful lot like "science" - which we all know is just high-falutin' nonsense put forward by godless elitists and libtards who hate America. This will go down as the Obama Regime's greatest con ever. I won't believe bin Laden's dead until Donald Trump tells me himself. In person. How else could an uneducated, conspiracy-theory-prone voter like me really be sure? I sure don't trust the media, that's for sure...well, except for Fox News...which was the ONLY network smart enough to not break into its Sunday night lineup to announce the alleged death of bin Laden. That tells me right there that this is all just hooey.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Do you believe that I could file a FOIA request and get a copy of Obama's BC?
No.
America...My Kind Of Place... PS: Republicans were on record as being against the FOI Act as a pro-commie law. Republicans are always on the wrong side of history. http://www.justice.gov/oip/foia-guidance-resources.html
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
Do you believe everything that you read, or only that which you want to believe?
PS: Republicans were on record as being against the FOI Act as a pro-commie law. 1. I'm not a Republican, 2. You ignored my question and 3. Changed the subject.
Why am I in a position to answer? File a FOIA request and find out. My opinion - non binding - is that things like a birth certificate are private information (like medical records) not covered under the act.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
FOIA covers only aspects of process and internal directives. A person's vital records are not subject to FOIA.
America...My Kind Of Place... Like I said.... Now if we can figure out what caused people like We The People to go mental over this....I think it is a subconscious thing - it taps into some sort of racialism or something that the birthers themselves don't even consciously know is affecting their rationality.
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
OK, I admit it. I hate Obama because he's Hawaiian.
Oh please... They could take your blood.. split it in half... then claim a match on both samples. Please... Quit being stupid... This will be a conspiracy long after you die, because Obama f'd this up.
You really saying this was faked? Really?
"Keep Your Goddamn Government Hands Off My Medicare!" - Various Tea Party signs.
#2. To: jwpegler (#0)
Yes, bin Laden is probably dead, but the Obama administration should have produced independent verification of bin Laden's death. They didn't.
#3. To: Skip Intro (#2)
How about pictures taken by the SEALS who killed him?
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#4. To: jwpegler, war, We The People, Skip Intro, GO65 (#0)
I'm not a conspiracy nut, but I wonder why the government didn't keep bin Laden's body around for independent verification.
#5. To: Skip Intro (#2)
What would satisfy you? How about pictures taken by the SEALS
#6. To: jwpegler (#3)
However, they dumped bin Laden's body overboard. It was a huge mistake. Long after we are dead there will be conspiracy theories about this.
#7. To: A K A Stone (#5)
Yesterday you said they would produce a body.
#8. To: Godwinson (#4)
It's called DNA.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#9. To: Skip Intro (#7)
#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)
When your cornered you start the stupid talk.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)
When your cornered you start the stupid talk.
#12. To: Godwinson (#4)
It's called DNA. It seems Republican kooks and the OJ jurors don't get what that means......
#13. To: Skip Intro (#11)
#14. To: Skip Intro (#6)
You don't want to give the remaining crazies a relic to rally around.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#15. To: jwpegler (#14)
I agree, but if you do dump the body there is a much larger set of crazies who will charge conspiracy.
#16. To: A K A Stone (#13)
#17. To: Rudgear (#15)
Don't you seem to be arguing both sides?
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#18. To: Skip Intro (#16)
#19. To: A K A Stone (#18)
#20. To: Skip Intro (#19)
OK, you got me Stone. I can't produce Osama's body.
#21. To: A K A Stone (#20)
You said Obama would produce the body.
#22. To: Skip Intro (#21)
#23. To: A K A Stone (#22)
You said something to that affect.
#24. To: We The People (#12)
Yep, and democrat/leftist kooks will believe whatever digital image is released and posted on the internet concerning the supposed DNA. No questions asked.
#25. To: jwpegler (#8)
(Edited)
Independent verification of DNA.
#26. To: Godwinson (#24)
If it is released it is released via official agencies which are answerable to the people/freedom of information act.
#27. To: We The People (#26)
#28. To: We The People, war (#26)
Do you believe that I could file a FOIA request and get a copy of Obama's BC?
#29. To: Godwinson (#25)
If you had not spent so much time in Republican crazy land you would have read that we have Bin Laden blood samples
#30. To: Godwinson (#28)
Do you believe that I could file a FOIA request and get a copy of Obama's BC?
#31. To: We The People, war (#30)
You ignored my question and
#32. To: Godwinson, We The People (#31)
#33. To: war, We The People (#32)
FOIA covers only aspects of process and internal directives. A person's vital records are not subject to FOIA.
#34. To: Godwinson (#33)
#35. To: Godwinson (#33)
I think it is a subconscious thing - it taps into some sort of racialism
#36. To: Godwinson (#25)
If you had not spent so much time in Republican crazy land you would have read that we have Bin Laden blood samples (donated it seems) to compare DNA against.
"Everything that can be invented has been invented."-- Charles Duell, Commissioner of US Patent Office, 1899
#37. To: Godwinson (#33)
Now if we can figure out what caused people like We The People to go mental over this....I think it is a subconscious thing - it taps into some sort of racialism or something that the birthers themselves don't even consciously know is affecting their rationality.
#38. To: jwpegler (#36)
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