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Title: Osama bin Laden is dead, Obama says
Source: www.msnbc.msn.com
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4285270 ... ld_news-south_and_central_asia
Published: May 2, 2011
Author: staff
Post Date: 2011-05-02 00:13:23 by Ferret Mike
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Views: 15816
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WASHINGTON — Osama bin Laden, the Saudi extremist whose al-Qaida terrorist organization killed more than 3,000 people in coordinated attacks on the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001, is dead following a military operation in Pakistan and the U.S. has recovered his body, U.S. President Barack Obama announced Sunday night.

"Justice has been done," the president declared as crowds formed outside the White House to celebrate, singing "The Star-Spangled Banner" and "We Are the Champions," NBC News reported.

Obama said bin Laden, whom he called a terrorist "responsible for the murder of thousands of American men, women and children," was killed in Pakistan earlier in the day after a firefight in an operation that was based on U.S. intelligence.

Charles Wolf of New York, whose wife, Katherine, died on Sept, 11, 2001, rejoiced at the news, which he called "wonderful."

"I am really glad that man's evil is off this earth forever," Wolf said. "I am just very glad that they got him."

Former President George W. Bush said in a statement that he had personally been informed by Obama of the death of the terrorist leader whose attacks forever defined his eight years in office.

"This momentous achievement marks a victory for America, for people who seek peace around the world, and for all those who lost loved ones on September 11, 2001," the former president said.

"The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done."

Obama echoed his predecessor, declaring that "the death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation's struggle to defeat al-Qaida."

But he stressed that the effort against the organization continues.

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"We must and we will remain vigilant at home and abroad," he said, while emphasizing that "the United States is not and never will be at war with Islam."

Bin Laden shot in the head, U.S. says Officials had long believed that bin Laden was hiding a mountainous region along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. In August, U.S. intelligence officials got a tip on his whereabouts, which led to the operation that culminated Sunday, Obama said.

U.S. officials told NBC News that U.S. Special Operations forces carried out the attack on the al-Qaida compound, killing bin Laden when they shot him in the head during a firefight.

The special operations forces returned with the body to Afghanistan, the sources said.

Reaction to the news was swift.

Bonnie McEneaney, 57, whose husband, Eamon, died in the 9/11 attacks, said the death of bin Laden was "long overdue."

"It doesn't bring back all the wonderful people who were killed 10 years ago," McEneaney told msnbc.com by phone from her home in New Canaan, Conn.

"I'm completely numb. I'm stunned," she said.

"The first thought I had in my mind was that it didn't bring my son back," Jack Lynch, who lost his son, New York City firefighter Michael Francis Lynch, on Sept. 11, 2001, told msnbc.com.

"You cut the head off a snake, you'd think it would kill the snake. But someone will take his place," Lynch said. "But people like him still exist. The fact that he's gone is not going to stop terrorism."

Lynch, 75, is a retired transit worker. His family's charity, the Michael Lynch Memorial Foundation, has made grants to send dozens of students to college. He said he would not celebrate bin Laden's death.

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"I understand that bin Laden was an evil person. He may have believed in what he was doing. I'm not going to judge him," Lynch said. "I'm sure some people will look at this and they'll be gratified that he's dead, but me personally, I'm going to leave his fate in God's hands."

Reaction from U.S. officials who have been entrenched in the battle against al-Qaida for years were more jubilant.

'The world is a better place' Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., Obama's opponent in the 2008 election, said he was "overjoyed that we finally got the world's top terrorist."

"The world is a better and more just place now that Osama bin Laden is no longer in it," McCain said in a statement. "I hope the families of the victims of the September 11th attacks will sleep easier tonight and every night hence knowing that justice has been done.

"I commend the President and his team, as well as our men and women in uniform and our intelligence professionals, for this superb achievement," McCain continued. "But while we take heart in the news that Osama bin Laden is dead, we must be mindful that al-Qaeda and its terrorist allies are still lethal and determined enemies, and we must remain vigilant to defeat them."

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, said that "today, the American people have seen justice."

"In 2001, President Bush said 'we will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.' President Bush deserves great credit for putting action behind those words," King said in a statement. "President Obama deserves equal credit for his resolve in this long war against al-Qaeda."

But the development also raised concerns that reprisal attacks from al-Qaida and other Islamist extremist groups could follow soon.A U.S. official said there were no immediate plans to urge state and local officials to change their security posture in response, but police in New York, site of the deadliest attack on Sept. 11, said they had already begun "ramp up" their security on their own, strictly as a precaution.Check back for updates on this developing story.

By Alex Johnson of msnbc.com with Bill Dedman and JoNel Aleccia of msnbc.com and Jim Miklaszewski, Luke Russert, Kelly O'Donnell, Mike Viqueira and Athena Jones of NBC News.

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#1. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

What are your thoughts on this Mike?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:15:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All, a k a stone (#0)

Here is the article posted impartially. If you are going to run a censored site that refuses an article merely because you don't like the content, you don't have a point to this venue. We waited a long time for this moment. Don't be a scrooge just because you hate someone.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   0:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

If you are going to run a censored site that refuses an article merely because you don't like the content

What was censored? lol

I was just asking for your opinion.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:22:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Ferret Mike (#2)

and bumping your thread.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#1)

I think it's impossible to freeze a body and not forensically tell, because ice crystals pierce the cell membranes.

If the military is lying for President Obama's sake, it would be foolish to do. I think he's dead now.

My friends at Ft. Bragg, N.C. have told me casually last year he was still out there when I last spoke to them. And too many people's reputations are at stake for it to be a falsehood.

Military officers do not do ma career busting move like make a falsehood about something this major.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   0:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: A K A Stone (#4)

I am very irate about the dog birth thread and the Padlock's title with the N word in it.

So pardon me if I am testy. I did have the good grace not to rant about it, or mention this until you asked, so keep your perspective please.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   0:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

I think it's impossible to freeze a body and not forensically tell,

Whose going to be telling the story?

You're funny.

If this had happened when Bush was president you wouldn't have been believing it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:25:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

I am very irate about the dog birth thread

Reading that sent me laughing.

It was posted under humor.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:27:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

If the military is lying for President Obama's sake, it would be foolish to do. I think he's dead now.

Surely you know by now that if you're Stone or Rudgear, everybody lies for Obama, including Republican governors, Republican candidates for president, Democratic candidates for president, most of the House and Senate, the entire news media, and the whole US court system.

I'm sure I left out a whole lot of people, but you get the drift here.

“It turns my stomach to hear this assumption articulated that we have to, despite the fact that we are raking in the federal government $6 billion a day. - Half Governor Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-02   0:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#1)

This death has extremely huge ramifications in our relationships with lots of people around the world. And one thing I learned in SOCOM is the PSYOPS aspects of this would be the a foundational aspect of this, and very very important to our international reputation to get this fact right.

If Obama manufactured a lie on this, it would be a second term killer just as much as this would ruin military officer's career.

This is important to help try to kill the fact 9 11 was an inside job, so a lot is at stake here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   0:29:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Skip Intro (#9)

Surely you know by now that if you're Stone or Rudgear, everybody lies for Obama, including Republican governors, Republican candidates for president, Democratic candidates for president, most of the House and Senate, the entire news media, and the whole US court system.

I'm sure I left out a whole lot of people, but you get the drift here.

You're exaggerating.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: A K A Stone (#11)

You're exaggerating.

No, I'm not. Not at all.

“It turns my stomach to hear this assumption articulated that we have to, despite the fact that we are raking in the federal government $6 billion a day. - Half Governor Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-02   0:30:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Skip Intro (#12)

the entire news media, and the whole US court system.

for starters.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:31:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: A K A Stone (#13)

the entire news media, and the whole US court system.

They're all covering up for him. All of them. Just listen to your queen, Orly Taitz. She'll explain it all to you.

“It turns my stomach to hear this assumption articulated that we have to, despite the fact that we are raking in the federal government $6 billion a day. - Half Governor Sarah Palin

Skip Intro  posted on  2011-05-02   0:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Skip Intro (#14)

Orly Taitz.

I've never actually watched her. I've heard some of you folks complain about her. Actually I did see her for a couple of seconds once. She didn't come across very good, as far as charisma goes. But it was only a couple of seconds and I didn't get time to get an impression on how good she made her case.

Maybe she is put on because she is a bad spokesman.

I

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:39:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#8)

It had racist overtones that have never disappeared from our culture. I get flack from family members for posting here, so to remain here and then have them see that is an embarrassment to me and could cause me flack from family members who are Black.

You don't care, but many of us do, and if you want a robust forum where people feel comfortable and will give either end of the political spectrum courtesy dispute disagreements, you need to set the tone and be more a Solomon about how you weigh things that are kept in the BBBT flow.

I don't want to tell you how to run your forum, but you can get more people feeling comfortable about being here with a wee bit more honey, and less gobs of crap smeared on the wall to make the vindictive happy.

Just my opinion, take it or leave it as you wish

I would try to channel the extreme popularity of Bush immediately after 9 11 when many including myself supported Bush and presented a national front despite our polirical differences.

I have really wanted your forum to get to a point where we all could engage in lively, even heated debate and still get along on a personal level. It can be done, but one must have the desire, will and skil to manage a place to make this happen.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   0:39:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#15)

In any event, thanks for respecting the story enough to leave the news piece up. I don't like Ben Laden, and have wated a long time for this. Many of us have.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   0:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

It had racist overtones that have never disappeared from our culture. I get flack from family members for posting here, so to remain here and then have them see that is an embarrassment t

Get real Mike.

Ever seen the movie the Omen.

Damien was born of a Jackal. That is what it is based on.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   0:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: A K A Stone (#1) (Edited)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/du b oard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4834735

Looky at this Democratic Underground thread, Stone.

Count the incredibly large number of people saying, "Can we end the wars now?"

Barack Opama benefits, but also has risks of alienating his base if he does not balance a desire to accomplish the military mission with the extremely huge sentiment to get the heck out of these wars and stop wasting money and blood on them.

This could help or hurt him depending on how he handles this.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   0:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)

I never saw that film, those sort of productions creep me out, sorry.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   0:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Osama bin Laden is dead

Oddly ambivalent. Surprised at the D.C. cheering crowds.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-02   0:58:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: A K A Stone (#18) (Edited)

Benazir Bhutto named Osama bin Laden’s killer before her death

Benazir Bhutto, who was killed in a suicide attack at the end of 2007 stated in November that the Osama bin Laden, the head of the international terrorist network al-Qaida, had been killed. Bhutto claimed that she even knew the man who had killed the prime suspect of 9/11 terrorist attacks in the USA. According to Bhutto’s words, Bin Laden was killed by Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh – one of those convicted of kidnapping and killing U.S. journalist Daniel Pearl.

Bhutto released that statement on November 2, 2007 in an interview with Al- Jazeera TV channel. Bhutto spoke in English in the program titled Frost Over the World. However, no one paid any attention to her words. Speaking about the enemies, who did not wish to see her back in Pakistan, she said: “Omar Sheikh is the man who murdered Osama bin Laden.”

The video of Bhutto’s interview to Al-Jazeera can be found on YouTube (click to watch the video). The assassinated Pakistani prime minister says the words about Bin Laden’s killer during the second minute of the interview. She stays absolutely calm when she pronounces the names. More than 600,000 people have already viewed the video.

Correspondent David Frost, who interviewed Bhutto, did not even care to ask more questions about the sensational statement. Frost, who is believed to be an experienced journalist, did not even ask Bhutto when Bin Laden was killed.

Benazir Bhutto’s interview to Al-Jazeera received very little attention from the media. There was practically no newspaper in the world who published the news on its front page, although tens of thousands of people discussed the news for two months. It just so happens that even Al-Jazeera messed it up.

There was no official who commented on the information. Not a word was said from the CIA and the FBI. They did not even lift a finger to reject it. Absolute silence. But the U.S. administration promised a reward of 25 million dollars for Bin Laden’s body, dead or alive.

Benazir Bhutto is now dead. She cannot say anything about her sources of information.

Read this Stone, even more indication of jeopardy for Obama. Sometimes trying too hart to do character assassination just hurts the bearer of loathing, and is an unnecessary exercises.

Let the situation gel and keep things here more new and opinion oriented and less tabloid. I think that is good advice; but again, take it or leave it as you wish.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   1:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: socalv8 (#21)

And the coordination and resonance between Obama and Bush on this. They are on the same sheet of music in regard to this.

I can't find it yet, but Jeb Bush and Barack Obama were very chummy at the dinner this weekend. Wonder what they talked about?

Earlier picture of the two together.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   1:30:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Ferret Mike, A K A Stone, ALL (#16)

It had racist overtones that have never disappeared from our culture. I get flack from family members for posting here, so to remain here and then have them see that is an embarrassment to me and could cause me flack from family members who are Black.

You don't care, but many of us do, and if you want a robust forum where people feel comfortable and will give either end of the political spectrum courtesy dispute disagreements, you need to set the tone and be more a Solomon about how you weigh things that are kept in the BBBT flow.

I don't want to tell you how to run your forum, but you can get more people feeling comfortable about being here with a wee bit more honey, and less gobs of crap smeared on the wall to make the vindictive happy.

Just my opinion, take it or leave it as you wish

I would try to channel the extreme popularity of Bush immediately after 9 11 when many including myself supported Bush and presented a national front despite our polirical differences.

I have really wanted your forum to get to a point where we all could engage in lively, even heated debate and still get along on a personal level. It can be done, but one must have the desire, will and skil to manage a place to make this happen.

Shit Mike, you'd see racist undertones in the color of a person ice cream they chose. I thought the video was kind of tasteless, but I saw no racist undertones, in fact, if I had done what stone did, I'd have used a jackel instead of a dog. It's called the contempt I feel for this socialist POS who is destroying my country, nothing more. My family is black also, but apparently they are not as thin skinned as yours, they don't seem to need the voice of, or the protection of, or the defence of, a white person, they save their indignation for more important things like the economy, food and gas prices, needless wars, the future of their children and g-children, a video of a dog or some dumb picture is the last thing they lay awake worrying about.

The tone you wish for stone to set is one of fear, fear to speak ones mind if they disagree with socialists and the left wing loonies you support, it's also a dream Ovomit has too, snitches, brownshirts and tattletales, bullies and thugs, to chastise and silence any and all opposition.

This has NOTHING to do with race, it has to do with how Americans feel about Obama, and you can't handle it, you want it toned down, you think of this dirty low down anti-christian who's thrown our nation into the 25th paralells of hell as some sort of messiah that should never be insulted, or offended.

I think you're right Mike, if you're getting so much 'flack' from family members for posting here, then you should just leave, for their sake, go out among the black people who are too stupid to speak for themselves, lead them out of the darkness they live in, show them how ignorant they are without you to speak for them....

Good by....

Murron  posted on  2011-05-02   1:33:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Murron (#24) (Edited)

Well Murron, we all have our opinions now, don't we?

It was a point of order I have talked about privately to Stone because my son who lives in in North Carolina gives me flack if he remotely logs into my network neighborhood and looks at my posting records I keep and feels I am posting on a forum with racist overtones.

He likes my writings and it is a way we bond.

It is sort of a family matter, so with all due respect, butt out.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   1:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

Jeb Bush and Barack Obama were very chummy at the dinner this weekend. Wonder what they talked about?

Golf and Hillary.

re: Osama, What do you think of all the cheering in the streets?

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-02   1:59:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: socalv8 (#26)

"re: Osama, What do you think of all the cheering in the streets?"

I am unaware of cheering on the streets. I get my news on the Internet. I have not owned a television since the mid ninties. I also don't own a stereo because I rarely listen to misic and hate noise in the background when I'm working doing writing, or writing for recreation.

I do know the photoshop people are cheering at DU and elsewhere; look:

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   2:07:40 ET  (5 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: socalv8 (#26) (Edited)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nation-reacts-to-osama-bin-ladens- death/2011/05/02/AFEpl8VF_gallery.html?hpid=z3#photo=11

OMG, you were serious.

Pictorial link from Washington Post, single graphic from the New Your Times.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   2:50:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

Liberal Hawks...Castro next?
Funny how the Left has been exposed as so hypocritical under Obama. Stereotypes are often right.

socalv8  posted on  2011-05-02   3:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

Osama bin Laden is dead, Obama says

Good.

We The People  posted on  2011-05-02   5:08:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#0)

FUCKIN' AYE RIGHT!!!!!!!

America...My Kind Of Place...

war  posted on  2011-05-02   6:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Murron (#24)

Good luck finding a pic of a Jackal giving birth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   7:09:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#10)

If Obama manufactured a lie on this, it would be a second term killer just as much as this would ruin military officer's career.

Mike do you believe this buried at sea crap?

A K A Stone  posted on  2011-05-02   7:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#33) (Edited)

Why shouldn't I?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2011-05-02   12:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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