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Title: We need to deny the Global Warming crowd the use of the word “Science”
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URL Source: http://www.redstate.com/next93/2011 ... d-the-use-of-the-word-science/
Published: May 1, 2011
Author: Steve Maley
Post Date: 2011-05-01 16:56:30 by no gnu taxes
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Views: 4008
Comments: 20
One of my favorite movies is “The Princess Bride”, and in one of my favorite scenes, one of the characters says to another (one who is convinced that he’s the smartest man in the world) “you keep using that word. I don’t think it means what you think it means”. I find myself flashing on that every time I hear a liberal talk about the “science” of Manmade Global Warming. I’m not a climatologist. Technically, I’m not even a scientist. What I am is an electrical engineer with training and experience in physics, computer modeling, and dynamical (control) system theory. I’ve also had one article published in an engineering journal, and I’ve spent many years working with formal scientific documentation processes. The scientific method and critical thinking are second nature to me. I would have no problem putting up my credentials against those of Al Gore, Ted Turner, and Prince Charles. Although I consider myself a conservative, I’ve looked at AGW theory with what I consider an open, scientific mind. What I’ve seen convinces me that we’re not only dealing with an erroneous theory, but with a worldwide scientific fraud of unprecedented proportions. Actually, I should say “nearly unprecedented proportions”, as this bears an eerie similarity to the way the Nuclear Winter fraud was carried out nearly two decades ago (the key difference being that the people who perpetrated the Nuclear Winter hoax never found a way to further enrich politically well-connected financiers who would help maintain the fraud). I could go on for a half hour about the holes in AGW theory, the abuses of the peer-review process, the absolutely outrageous behavior of the IPCC, and the outright scientific misconduct of the people who’ve staked their careers on something that can be fairly described as a crackpot theory. I could explain how easy it is to bias a computer model to comply with your pre-determined outcome and how such a model will fail to reflect reality. I could point out that there’s no actual proof that CO2 is causing the Earth (or, for that matter, Mars) to warm up. I could I could ask them why there’s no evidence of the heat signature that a runaway greenhouse mechanism would cause. I could do all of these things, but the fact is that there’s nothing that will convince the alarmists that their pet hypothesis is wrong. Why will we never convince them? Well, for one thing, most of them don’t have the fundamental knowledge needed to even understand the problems with the theory. We’re talking about people who’ve never solved a differential equation or calculated the phase shift of a feedback function, who don’t even know what an absorption spectrum is. Trying to explain to them the effect of arbitrarily assigning positive magnitude to a major feedback channel in a computer model of a multivariable nonlinear dynamical system would be exactly as effective if done in Latin as in English. Furthermore, these are people who might have studied the scientific method back in 6th or 7th grade, and haven’t given it a thought since. They simply have no idea how well the AGW crowd has gamed the peer review process (or, for that matter, the grant process). They don’t understand the incredible ethical lapse of Michael Mann not allowing anyone to see his source data, and then conveniently losing it. They don’t understand the level of scientific misconduct that went into preparation of the IPCC report. They don’t understand about the biases in the data collection, they don’t understand about statistical forcing in the analysis of the raw data. But the most important reason we’ll never convince them is this: they simply don’t care. They don’t care where the theory came from, they don’t care if there are holes in it, they don’t care that there are better natural explanations. They don’t care that the people who are flogging this theory the hardest stand to make billions through the stroke of a government pen. They don’t even care that their “solution” will lock billions of people into lives of hopeless, grinding poverty in order to assuage their own nagging feeling of environmental guilt. What they understand, and what they care about, is that they now have a set of beliefs that gives them comfort, defines their place in the universe, and gives them a sense of smug self-righteousness. Better yet, it gives them an unassailable moral position from which they can tell other people how they should live. I realize that I’m not the first person to accuse environmentalism of becoming a faux religion, but I find it fascinating that this new religion’s adherents have found a rationalization for all of the negative behaviors that are usually attributed to the worst kind religious zealot. The point I want to make is that we need to start calling them out whenever they claim to have “science” on their side. They don’t. Politicians need to pointedly reference Al Gore’s degree in government management, or Prince Charles status as a complete dilettante. When they trot out the “consensus” nonsense, we need to point out that consensus isn’t a scientific concept, and then ask them who exactly decided who was included in this “consensus”. When they claim that the science is settled, we need to ask them which science, and how they know it’s settled, and who settled it. When they claim that they’re the ones defending “real” science, we need to ask them how much of that science they understand. And most importantly, we need to ask them what it would take to disprove the whole AGW theory. Because if the answer is “nothing”, then we need to point out that they’ve crossed from science to theology.
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#1. To: war (#0)
Weren't you the one involved in some silly argument about engineers and scientists?
war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.
Engineers are scientists, Rudy. I had conversations with several thereafter that back and forth with Paddy. They also all laughed at his posts on that thread. FYI.
America...My Kind Of Place...
I love how you argue with those who are more knowledgeable than you, frankly
which is everybody. You argue to blow smoke, ****. Its all you have.
Carry on, punk.
war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.
Rudy...ping me to a post in which you've offered up an analysis on any topic. And you're such a BIG MAN in your anonymity. I'll tell you what...you meet me wherever you want to. We'll see who the punk is. Deal?
America...My Kind Of Place...
Walk the walk, punk. You like to start trouble then run crying like a school girl to teacher to make it stop. It only proves my contention you are a metrosexual pussy troublemaker. You don't hear me crying about doing what you yourself did: deliberately naming myself and then crying about it. And if you want to get it right, though accuracy is never one of your priorities, the name is Brian, not 'Rudy', asshole. See? I named myself a second time. Use the proper one when addressing me, you stringy-haired faggot.
war has to do something for entertainment. The voices in his head aren't speaking to him and his imaginary friends have found reasons not to come over anymore.
I have never posted my name on any newsgroup, Rudy. Ever. You know my name because one asshole has a vendetta and another person loves playing both sides of the fence. You can either put up or shut up at this point, Rudy. If you are man enough. I doubt that you are and you know that YOU would be down, bloody and laughed at. Just as Boofer does, Rudy.
America...My Kind Of Place...
Chuckles...what will you do when you have to explain to your one, possibly, friend, that a "stringy haired metrosexual faggot " beat the ever loving shit out of you, Rudy? Lie and tell them you tripped over the garden hose while weeding the geraniums is my guess... ROFLMAO...
America...My Kind Of Place...
'Smatter boy...cat got your tongue or is it that you're the pussy here?
America...My Kind Of Place...
BWAHAHA 8D When Brian Williams says 'humans are causing this'... as cryptically as he can.... it's over. Levee's Breaking. There's no where to run. ;}
Damn, War. One of the best stories here at LP/LF has been watching you get a sharper more accurate tongue... ;}
I had conversations with several thereafter that back and forth with Paddy. They also all laughed at his posts on that thread. I call bullshit, because any real scientist or engineer would know the difference between a scientist and an engineer.
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
You can call home for all I care. "Scientist" is a general term. Engineering is a type of science...thus...
America...My Kind Of Place...
'Sup James?
America...My Kind Of Place...
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
And you're neither... Thanks, Paddy... Have a nice day!!!
America...My Kind Of Place...
Funny, the State licensing board considers me to be one. So, who the fuck are you?
Now, I know I’m not going to change the minds of any of the True Believers…those who read all of Reverend Al’s sermons, and say things like, “You know, global warming can mean warmer OR colder, wetter OR drier, cloudier OR sunnier, windier OR calmer, …”. Can I get an ‘amen’??
No one of consequence...
America...My Kind Of Place...
'Sup James? 8D First off. I'm looking for Yuk/Fartsky to be here now. That the news. If he doesn't show up here and now, that's all I'll need to know. ;} Where is he? LMFAO Second. Farmland is going underwater all around us as levees are breached. Bigger than the 1927 flood... "SIKESTON, Mo. — The Army Corps of Engineers officer in charge of deciding whether to destroy a southeast Missouri levee has ordered crews to start filling pipes at the levee with explosives. Maj. Gen. Michael Walsh instructed crews Sunday to move barges containing explosives to the Missouri side of the Mississippi River in case he decides to blow up the levee. Walsh says he still hasn't decided whether to breach a two-mile section of the levee to relieve pressure upriver on the small Illinois community of Cairo. Doing so would put 130,000 acres of Missouri farmland under water but protect the Illinois community of 2,800 residents. Walsh says it will take 20 hours to fill the tubes at the Birds Point. CAIRO, Ill. - With federal courts opting not to step in, the Army Corps of Engineers has begun pumping explosives into a Missouri levee as it weighs whether to blast it open to ease inland floodwaters and spare an Illinois town where most residents were forced to scurry from a river still rising to record heights. U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, without explaining his decision, rejected Missouri's latest and perhaps final attempt to block the corps from intentionally breaching the Birds Point levee to ease pressure and reduce water levels along the swollen Mississippi and Ohio rivers. The levee lies on the Mississippi, just downriver from where it merges with the Ohio near the small city of Cairo. The ruling by Alito, who handles emergency requests from Missouri and various other Midwest states, came the same day all but 20 to 30 families in 2,800-resident Cairo were ordered out of the city and away from the Ohio, which eclipsed its 74-year-old record height was expected to rise further.
You won't see him 'round here anymore. The candidate next up for a self outing...Boofer...you just can't have lips like that and not suck cock...
America...My Kind Of Place...
What a shame. They do just slink off don't they. Waiting for their antics to be forgotten. History to forget. Knowing that the facts will be made irrelevant (like this Osama buried at sea thread;}. And then trying to re appear. But in necessarily uglier fashion. While War, et al, shining away...like crazy. ;}
Technically, I’m not even a scientist. What I am is an electrical engineer with training and experience in physics, computer modeling, and dynamical (control) system theory.
#2. To: Rudgear (#1)
#3. To: war (#2)
#4. To: Rudgear (#3)
I love how you argue with those who are more knowledgeable than you, frankly which is everybody.
#5. To: war (#4)
#6. To: Rudgear (#5)
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#7. To: Rudgear (#5)
Use the proper one when addressing me, you stringy-haired faggot.
#8. To: Rudgear (#5)
#9. To: no gnu taxes (#0)
#10. To: war (#8)
'Smatter boy...cat got your tongue or is it that you're the pussy here?
#11. To: war (#2)
Engineers are scientists, Rudy.
#12. To: no gnu taxes (#11)
#13. To: mcgowanjm (#10)
#14. To: war (#12)
#15. To: no gnu taxes (#14)
#16. To: war (#15)
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#17. To: no gnu taxes (#16)
So, who the fuck are you?
#18. To: war (#13)
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To: mcgowanjm
#19. To: mcgowanjm (#18)
I'm looking for Yuk/Fartsky to be here now.
#20. To: war (#19)
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